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Thread: OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    I just looked at the school location on google maps...what a massive amount of woods!
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...01929&t=h&z=16
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustToSeeYouSmile View Post
    Thanks- transition lenses are quite the rage, huh?
    I also wondered because there's one pic that shows a line in his hairline that could be vaguely reminscent of a scar from a brain surgery. Or could just be the haircut. Can't imagine a reason why medical history would not be released, but sometimes brain surgeries leave behind vision problems. But just thinking out loud here.
    Do you have a link to that photo? Have they said he has a medical history but won't release it? I've missed that somehow. Now I'm worried he may be prone to seizures if what you suspect is true

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    To reduce confusion about the direction each door of Skyline Elementary faces, see the four images below. NOTE THE COMPASS IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF EACH PHOTO.

    The southern front entrance (southwest really):


    The western side entrance (northwest really):


    The northern back of the school (northeast):


    And the eastern side of the school, with the driveway (southeast):


    Just refer to the compass and ignore everyone else including me! Definitely confusing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk71texas View Post
    i have transitional lenses....they are awesome!
    lol

    When he got his, he'd run outside --- "They're dark!!!" --- then back inside --- "Now they're not!!!" --- then back outside --- "They're dark again!!!" --- and then back in ....

    over and over

    It's a wonder he didn't wear them out the first day lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Someone asked last night where the info on the south entrance door as Kyron's last known sighting came from. I just came across the LEO saying it in the press conference in a clip included in this video at 0:36:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4P3vGDow8

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    "He was seen near his classroom, and the last point was down at the south entrance door of the school."
    That still brings us back to which entrance is considered the south entrance. I would call the front entrance the south entrance, because it faces south most directly. But the front entrance is on the ground floor and Kyron's class has been described in at least one story as being on the second floor.

    The entrance from the parking lot faces slightly southeast, so it may be considered the south entrance. It appears to be on the second floor so it fits.

    Either way it looks like he exited the school at some time soon after he was last seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    Do you have a link to that photo? Have they said he has a medical history but won't release it? I've missed that somehow. Now I'm worried he may be prone to seizures if what you suspect is true
    The photo is at 0.55-0.57 secs in the youtube video. It's the line in his hair on the right side of his head- could very easily just be the haircut and I don't see it in any other pics...but I have also seen similar in healed, old surgeries. I was thinking of a possible seizure disorder as well.

    And I don't have the link, but I'll look- where they say they're not going to discuss medical conditions. Not that he has an undisclosed one- just that they are not going to discuss it.
    Looking....

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    Perhaps this has already been suggested, but might Kyron have been trying to walk home? From the map, it looks like his home is not too far from the school. Had he been bullied that day and wanted to go home? Or was he nervous about the talent show? He would have driven that road hundreds of times on his way to school so he would think that he could get home pretty easily...and maybe someone accidentally hit him or a predator grabbed him off the road.

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    dear lord, please let today be the day that sweet little Kyron is returned safely to his family and all those who love him. amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    I just looked at the school location on google maps...what a massive amount of woods!
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...01929&t=h&z=16
    Are they checking all up and down NW skyline Blvd and it looks like wooded areas on NW brooks Rd.Are they checking with Cadaver dogs too with the search dogs?Is there any bodies of water around there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    This is curious. The AP has issued a photo elimination on the photo of Kyron with the orange background. According to THIS WEBSITE, a photo elimination is a photo that carries no threat of legal action but is objectionable for other reasons, such as error, poor taste, or inaccuracy (including photoshop). When these occur, either an AP photo KILL or ELIMINATION is moved, alerting members.

    For an example of an AP elimination, read THIS ARTICLE.

    On the Atlanta Journal Constitution's website is an article about Kyron. They accidentally ran the eliminated photo with the article, although it's now restricted by the AP, so it's not to be used in association with an AP article.

    What in this photo is in error, poor taste, or innacurate (photoshopped)? Anyone want to guess?

    Here are screencaps:



    He looks younger in that picture. My guess is they want to post the most recent pictures of him for better accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Fries View Post
    That still brings us back to which entrance is considered the south entrance. I would call the front entrance the south entrance, because it faces south most directly. But the front entrance is on the ground floor and Kyron's class has been described in at least one story as being on the second floor.

    The entrance from the parking lot faces slightly southeast, so it may be considered the south entrance. It appears to be on the second floor so it fits.

    Either way it looks like he exited the school at some time soon after he was last seen.
    Every time I see a report with photos of that dense forest and brush around the school, my heart just sinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthsleuth View Post
    To reduce confusion about the direction each door of Skyline Elementary faces, see the four images below. NOTE THE COMPASS IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER OF EACH PHOTO.

    The southern front entrance (southwest really):

    The western side entrance (northwest really):

    The northern back of the school (northeast):

    And the eastern side of the school, with the driveway (southeast):

    Just refer to the compass and ignore everyone else including me! Definitely confusing!
    Thank you so very much, truthsleuth! That makes it much, much clearer.

    I don't like see all those trees so near that door. Too easy for someone to lurk there, while still being within 'talking' distance to the door. Also so close to parking spaces. And right out to the road so closeby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Fries View Post
    That still brings us back to which entrance is considered the south entrance. I would call the front entrance the south entrance, because it faces south most directly. But the front entrance is on the ground floor and Kyron's class has been described in at least one story as being on the second floor.

    The entrance from the parking lot faces slightly southeast, so it may be considered the south entrance. It appears to be on the second floor so it fits.

    Either way it looks like he exited the school at some time soon after he was last seen.
    I'm pretty sure LE would use directionally south for the sake of accuracy and preciseness, such as on the pic above from truthsleuth with the compass.

    Yes, Kyron's class has been stated to be on the second floor, so between 8:45am when his stepmom left him near his classroom, and late morning when he was seen at the south entrance, it looks like he, for some reason, went downstairs. LE hasn't said where the third sighting at 9am was, so I don't know what happened in between 8:45 and late morning as to where he went or what he was doing.

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    I see a lot of questions about searching etc..

    I had posted this at 11:31pm PST on Friday 6/4/2010 the night Kyron went missing.

    They are still there I'm watching it live on the news. Over 100 searchers from several different agencies

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    Just shown on GMA on the west coast:

    22 agencies are working on finding Kyron.

    Going over what we know about the morning. No one knew he disappeared until 7 hours after SM watched him walk to class. Still no answers. Aunt wants more flyers up and do not give up hope.

    Almost 1,500 tips and LE is tight lipped about the tips, but they want more.
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    I know the thread is moving fast and furiously-I read a statement by a Karen Martinez IIRC this morning who was ID'd as mom's sister. Is this the Step-mom's sister or bio mom's? And does anyone know where bio-mom lives? Any chance she was feeling left out of the science fair/talent show events etc and came to pick him up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by momtective View Post
    I just looked at the school location on google maps...what a massive amount of woods!
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...01929&t=h&z=16
    Wow, that's the first of me looking at the school on a map. That amount of woodland would take forever and a day to search. It's a beautiful place though. Is the school out in the boonies? I just don't see many houses around it or whatever. I don't know anything at all about OR (or most other parts of the US!).... so sorry if it seems a dumb question.

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    Calliope,
    You can see what I am referring to in this pic:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-504083_1...?tag=page;next
    but I think it is probably most likely a natural hairline. The squint at the light in some of the other pics and the transition lenses were what made me wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma Peel View Post
    The caption under Kyron's squirrel picture says "Kyron loved to draw." (Past tense.) Maybe that's why it made you feel funny BeanE. It sure made me feel funny. I hope they change the caption...
    Squirrel pic caused something in me to feel "funny" too. Not the response I usually feel when viewing kids artwork. This is the second time a squirrel has been mentioned - was step-moms license plate squirrel or red squirrel? Why the reference to the squirrels? - Maybe it is nothing.........maybe the family was fond of squirrels, funny how the most mundane topics are now questioned.
    Sorry if someone already mentioned this not quite done reading the thread yet.
    MOO I do not think it was a peer, I take the truck and possible sightings to mean there is an adult involved.
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    this may have been mentioned but this school offers babysitting before and after school, did they have that going on during the science fair?

    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools-c/profiles/?id=186

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.Scarpetta View Post
    Squirrel pic caused something in me to feel "funny" too. Not the response I usually feel when viewing kids artwork. This is the second time a squirrel has been mentioned - was step-moms license plate squirrel or red squirrel? Why the reference to the squirrels? - Maybe it is nothing.........maybe the family was fond of squirrels, funny how the most mundane topics are now questioned.
    Sorry if someone already mentioned this not quite done reading the thread yet.
    The picture made me feel sad, simply and only because it was a cute picture obviously drawn by a little child, and that child is now missing. It made me cry.

    I wasn't implying that there was anything odd, weird, suspicious, hinky, questionable, or in any way related to Kyron's disappearance about it.

    It just made me cry because Kyron must have had fun drawing it, just being a kid, and now he is missing, and I wish to God he was just still drawing pictures and busy being a kid.


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    The Early Show (on the west coast just now)

    Authorities following up on more than 1,200 tips. (Going over what we know about the timeline). Rescue teams are searching a 2 mile radius around the school. SM, father and mother are in Portland keeping a low profile. A girl from the school says he is kind and nice and wouldn't just go away from the school.
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    Horman family statement on search for Kyron

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    I don't know where the link is now because I think I was reading it late last night.(not the Drood link, but the following info). But do you remember that Drood who had a comment about the appointment?

    I know I read last night somewhere on here that the appointment comment has been confirmed, but it was said that "wires were crossed". Implying that the appointment was for another day. Obviously, Monday.

    So, LE could certainly check if there was an appointment on Monday.

    It's interesting that Drood's comments are verified (I believe). No link, however from me. ( about the verification info about the appt. Does anyone know where it is?)

    Right now, for me, it comes down to the appointment.

    So, if the teacher didn't hear it correctly-the appt was for Monday, that is why she marked him absent and didn't call. She heard that the appt was for that day.

    I feel that the teacher is totally vindicated.

    So, what about this appt?

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