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    Joran Van der Sloot Confesses to Murdering Stephany Flores Ramirez #2

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    LINK factual information. We are giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW because of the language barrier but generally MSM sources for facts is what we go with. Not blogs or opinion pieces.

    Respect copyright. Copy 10% of the article and provide a link. Again,we a re giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW due to the language barrier. But that will tighten up again so may as well get used to it.

    Sorry to sound so harsh but we have let the threads run so we could vent, compare notes, and generally get information out there on this unbelievable turn of events

    But now it is time to get back to serious exchange of ideas and constructive discussion.

    The name calling and pettiness has got to stop and will not be tolerated. Automatic 3 day time outs, no questions asked for any name calling or derogatory alterations of names. IOW stop calling Joran- Urine and vanderslop . Good grief self edit and make sure your friends know the rule.



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    continue here and I will link the last threads in a moment

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    I can't say anything here about Joran that won't get me a time out. So, instead..I'd just like to say that Natalie and Stehpany's families are in my prayers tonight.



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    Per the fellow gambler (can't recall his name) Joran stated that he was having difficulty meeting women in Peru. The first woman that he gets to his room - by whatever means - is on her period and self professed gay. Can you imagine what a loser he must have felt like?! That humiliation could have just turned to murderous rage.
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    whew, now that all that has been resolved, back to the topic at hand.

    I do not know how close he and his mother are. I had heard it reported quite some time ago that they were not speaking. I wonder if mom was not all that on board with some of the lengths dad was willing to go. It seemed as if after the senior van der Sloot passed, Joran and his mother had a falling out. Or maybe she just refused to finance the playboy lifestyle to which he had become accustomed.
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    Please alert on any post that violates etiquette or TOS. The moderators receive a direct link to that post and then the thread can move on without disruption. To report a post hit the little triangle in the upper right corner of the offending post. A text box will open up and you can tell us what is going on and we will do out best to act on it if we determine it is necessary.
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    Not sure if this would be considered rumor but this site reports Dave Holloway is on his way to Aruba. Wonder if they found something.

    http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/06...-way-to-aruba/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roze View Post
    Not sure if this would be considered rumor but this site reports Dave Holloway is on his way to Aruba. Wonder if they found something.

    http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/06...-way-to-aruba/
    I heard that this morning too. I just pray that now that Joran is in custody, something will come out of this to give Natalies family closure as well.


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    Vinda de Sousa was just on CNN ref: Joran. She says she is the attorney for Natalee's father and that they are hoping to "join" the process [or something like that] in the Peruvian courts as the injured or damaged parties.

    I've never heard of such a thing in a criminal case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flow View Post
    Vinda de Sousa was just on CNN ref: Joran. She says she is the attorney for Natalee's father and that they are hoping to "join" the process [or something like that] in the Peruvian courts as the injured or damaged parties.

    I've never heard of such a thing in a criminal case.

    [Am I posting this on the right thread?]
    Well that will be interesting to see how that unfolds because Joran killed Stephany and that is not something that would have injured the Holloway's.

    If the Holloway's want to file a civil case against Joran for damages and injury, I would think they would have to go back to Aruba.

    I don't think Mr. Holloway could file damages against Joran for taking Beth's money because Beth already has her case against Joran in the US and Mr. Holloway had no clue about the "transactions".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flow View Post
    Vinda de Sousa was just on CNN ref: Joran. She says she is the attorney for Natalee's father and that they are hoping to "join" the process [or something like that] in the Peruvian courts as the injured or damaged parties.

    I've never heard of such a thing in a criminal case.

    [Am I posting this on the right thread?]
    IMO any info you have about Joran is o.k. here. Peruvian law is so different than what we are use to. I've been trying to understand it myself.
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    The attorney for Mr. Holloway was on "Rick's List" on CNN right before I posted it. He named Beth as his most intriguing person of the day so it sounds like he will be having a lot more about the case right now. [Rick Sanchez]

    eta - It is on right now. Regular CNN, not HLN.


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    Jean Casares is on CNN right now, too, btw.


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