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    OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #6

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    Here's a pretty informative article about school absence procedures. What it tells me is that even if Skyline had used the automated reporting to parents, they still might not have been notified until it was too late.

    There HAS to be a reason that Kyron's teacher wasn't concerned about his absence. She knew that he had been in class. Probably on any other day, say, if they had gone to lunch and then returned and he was not there, she would have been alarmed.

    But why, on this day, was she not alarmed about him not being at his desk? That's part of the answer to this perplexing mystery, I think.

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/j...cal-officials/



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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    Here's a pretty informative article about school absence procedures. What it tells me is that even if Skyline had used the automated reporting to parents, they still might not have been notified until it was too late.

    There HAS to be a reason that Kyron's teacher wasn't concerned about his absence. She knew that he had been in class. Probably on any other day, say, if they had gone to lunch and then returned and he was not there, she would have been alarmed.

    But why, on this day, was she not alarmed about him not being at his desk? That's part of the answer to this perplexing mystery, I think.

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/j...cal-officials/
    bbm Especially if his backpack was at his desk or cubby! Other kids would have seen his backpack at the cubby also.


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    Posted on last thread by CharlestonGal:
    Yes, teens who become very angry at their parents can certainly strike out and do heinous things to hurt them where it hurts most.
    Or to hurt other adults?

    Stepmom is a teacher. I realize she's now a stay at home mom (IIRC, baby is 18 months old), but when did she last work as a teacher? Where did she teach? Was she ever involved in any ugly incidents with (now former) students and/or their parents? Did she ever serve in an administrative / disciplinary position, even temporarily as cover or in an 'on-call' status? Did she ever have any complaints filed against her (legit or not)? (I'd also include any incidents involving other teachers and staff, of course) FWIW, I listened to the scanner while awaiting the thread to reopen last night; I noticed mention of 'gang' more than once.

    I know this is stupid and a BIG stretch, but some people have very long memories and hold grudges for a long time.

    BTW, regarding the 'gym' comments. We don't know the background and circumstances surrounding this. For all we know, it was something set up with LE to somehow bait the person(s) involved in Kyron's disappearance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calliope View Post
    Posted on last thread by CharlestonGal:

    Or to hurt other adults?

    Stepmom is a teacher. I realize she's now a stay at home mom (IIRC, baby is 18 months old), but when did she last work as a teacher? Where did she teach? Was she ever involved in any ugly incidents with (now former) students and/or their parents? Did she ever serve in an administrative / disciplinary position, even temporarily as cover or in an 'on-call' status? Did she ever have any complaints filed against her (legit or not)? (I'd also include any incidents involving other teachers and staff, of course) FWIW, I listened to the scanner while awaiting the thread to reopen last night; I noticed mention of 'gang' more than once.

    I know this is stupid and a BIG stretch, but some people have very long memories and hold grudges for a long time.

    BTW, regarding the 'gym' comments. We don't know the background and circumstances surrounding this. For all we know, it was something set up with LE to somehow bait the person(s) involved in Kyron's disappearance.
    She only taught one year. 2002-2003, and not in the Skyline school.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    She only taught one year. 2002-2003, and not in the Skyline school.
    Wouldn't have to be at skyline.... I know it was a stupid thought, but just trying to think of who might have reason to hurt this family.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    She only taught one year. 2002-2003, and not in the Skyline school.
    Thought I read on her FB that she helped out with the reading program at Skyline. Sorry, I don't want to have to go through the wall again trying to find that info and not sure if allowed to do so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    Here's a pretty informative article about school absence procedures. What it tells me is that even if Skyline had used the automated reporting to parents, they still might not have been notified until it was too late.

    There HAS to be a reason that Kyron's teacher wasn't concerned about his absence. She knew that he had been in class. Probably on any other day, say, if they had gone to lunch and then returned and he was not there, she would have been alarmed.

    But why, on this day, was she not alarmed about him not being at his desk? That's part of the answer to this perplexing mystery, I think.

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/j...cal-officials/
    Agreed - and its such a small school - his back-pack would have sat there (at is desk or in a back room in a coat area?) all day and no one was alarmed? Like you said there HAS to be a reason that Kyron's teacher(s) wasn't concerned about his absence..and I am assuming that he had more than one class/teacher so it would have been multiple teachers that were not concerned as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeMarie View Post
    Agreed - and its such a small school - his back-pack would have sat there (at is desk or in a back room in a coat area?) all day and no one was alarmed? Like you said there HAS to be a reason that Kyron's teacher(s) wasn't concerned about his absence..and I am assuming that he had more than one class/teacher so it would have been multiple teachers that were not concerned as well..
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    I am unsure how elementary schools are structured there but a 7 year old in 2nd grade where I am at would not have more than one teacher (except for classes like music or PE which do not take place every day but only a couple of days a week for an hour each). So there may have only been one teacher to be concerned or not as to where he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcox View Post
    BBM
    I am unsure how elementary schools are structured there but a 7 year old in 2nd grade where I am at would not have more than one teacher (except for classes like music or PE which do not take place every day but only a couple of days a week for an hour each). So there may have only been one teacher to be concerned or not as to where he was.
    I don't live there either, tlcox...

    Here, though, kids go to homeroom, then to reading, then back to homeroom, then to PE, then back to homeroom, and then sometimes to art.

    And all homerooms have teaching assistants... or they did until our district cut the assistants because of economic woes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    I don't live there either, tlcox...

    Here, though, kids go to homeroom, then to reading, then back to homeroom, then to PE, then back to homeroom, and then sometimes to art.

    And all homerooms have teaching assistants... or they did until our district cut the assistants because of economic woes.
    In my state, kids who need extra help also have additional teachers in separate rooms to assist them in math or reading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    I don't live there either, tlcox...

    Here, though, kids go to homeroom, then to reading, then back to homeroom, then to PE, then back to homeroom, and then sometimes to art.

    And all homerooms have teaching assistants... or they did until our district cut the assistants because of economic woes.
    I wish we had more locals on the thread to give us a picture of a normal day for a 2nd grader at Skyline. It would make it so much easier for us to find out what was off or diferent about this day if we knew more about how a regular one was structured.

    At my kids elementary school there is no homeroom, etc. There is simply the classroom and their teacher. They leave the room for recess, lunch and twice a week for music/art and PE.

    Also it would be interesting to know the class size of Kyron's class. My kids were blessed with very small class size (10 to 15 students) this year but there are other schools in my disctrict had extremely large class size (28 to 30).
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    There has to be a reason why the teacher wasn't alarmed, surprised, curious about Kyrons' absence. Wish we knew why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amster View Post
    There has to be a reason why the teacher wasn't alarmed, surprised, curious about Kyrons' absence. Wish we knew why.
    At my daughter's elementary school, if the child is not in their seat by 8:00, the parents are contacted immediately -- unless the parents have already let the school or teacher know about a sickness, etc.

    If there is a doctor's appointment and a child has to leave class -- they are walked by two other students to the front -- so there are always two students walking back.

    All bathrooms are in the actual classroom itself -- so they never get to wander.


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    To use that excuse to lure him , they would need to be familiar with his weakness for that kind of thing. So it had to be someone he was familiar with. Was this out in someones car?
    There was such a small window of time. I wonder if the perp. was becoming more anxious as the school year was coming to a close, and grabbed the chance.
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