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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #11

    Please continue here. Also - please read this first post and abide by the rules.

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    Thanks,

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    Also, please remember there is to be NO name calling of ANYONE! No bashing of anyone, etc. If you don't know the rules, read the TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean View Post
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    No gossip or rumor

    Clarify your opinions as such

    LINK factual information. We are giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW because of the language barrier but generally MSM sources for facts is what we go with. Not blogs or opinion pieces.

    Respect copyright. Copy 10% of the article and provide a link. Again,we a re giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW due to the language barrier. But that will tighten up again so may as well get used to it.

    Sorry to sound so harsh but we have let the threads run so we could vent, compare notes, and generally get information out there on this unbelievable turn of events

    But now it is time to get back to serious exchange of ideas and constructive discussion.

    The name calling and pettiness has got to stop and will not be tolerated. IOW stop calling Joran- Urine and vanderslop . Good grief self edit and make sure your friends know the rule.



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    TY Salem. We will try and behave while you are sleeping.

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    Thank you Salem!

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    bringing over from other thread

    link to coffee video:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...tephany-flores

    link to two stills of Joran & Stephanie in the casino:

    http://www.fotoglif.com/f/vqrs7ta9jx67/x2n6rrykaxko

    with special thanks to the people who originally posted them

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    bringing over from other thread

    link to coffee video:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...tephany-flores

    link to two stills of Joran & Stephanie in the casino:

    http://www.fotoglif.com/f/vqrs7ta9jx67/x2n6rrykaxko

    with special thanks to the people who originally posted them
    You know he could have never left the room and the coffee video is all a sham to trick everyone. He could of had those cups from earlier in the day before she even got there along with the danish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy_texasbelle2 View Post
    TY Salem. We will try and behave while you are sleeping.
    Im here. Thanks for the transfer over - - - good people here, am enjoying this. Havent been here since the old DB Cooper days (funny)
    anyway thanks to all.
    Jerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwarner View Post
    Im here. Thanks for the transfer over - - - good people here, am enjoying this. Havent been here since the old DB Cooper days (funny)
    anyway thanks to all.
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    Welcome back Jerry!

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    OOPS...I got caught in the closing of the thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by jwarner View Post
    I think you may have the timeline. He has changed when he comes out
    with the coffee cups and looks around ... he may have come with cups
    in his hand (an excuse to come out if observed) in order to look around
    and see what's going on if anything. Especially if he fears there was
    npoise from him killing Flores. But hecomes out and maybe for the first
    time "realises" there is a security cam right at his door! He look up right
    at it and looks a but startled? THEN he goes into this fumbling act at the
    door, door pulled shut, knocking, fumbling with cups as he whirls around
    ... he looks confused/desparate? ... then walks off to get an employee to open thedoor which will verify "nothing is going on - all is calm". Then he
    goes in, packs and who knows what else, and leaves.

    The only thing that bothers me is his kocking. Is there any chance he
    thought she might still be alive and would answer the door? ! He does
    kock a number of times in severalseries of knocks ... knocks softly as
    if he is trying to avoid to raising any suspicion.
    That little knuckle type knocking is common went you know someone is awake in the room. I think he did because he was hoping that it would draw the attention to him of trying to gain entrance into the room. He probably hoped a cleaning maid or someone else close by in one of the halls that could hear him pretending to get into the room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy_texasbelle2 View Post
    You know he could have never left the room and the coffee video is all a sham to trick everyone. He could of had those cups from earlier in the day before she even got there along with the danish.
    I just think he may have come out into the hallway to see what was going
    on and judge the tenor of things, prior to him leaving - the locked door
    business an added touch of non-reality for the camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy_texasbelle2 View Post
    You know he could have never left the room and the coffee video is all a sham to trick everyone. He could of had those cups from earlier in the day before she even got there along with the danish.

    Thank you -- I agree!!


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    I keep thinking about what JVS was thinking about inside that room after the murder.

    You know he was thinking he had to find a way to remove her body. He thought of this "I left and came back and she was dead" scenario but saw the cameras. Also, he has a REP already with the Natalee situation. You know he thought about trying to chop her up and remove her in luggage. Maybe not. In the end though I think he realized he was caught. He couldn't pull that off so he just fled. Sorry just ramblin' thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sassy_texasbelle2 View Post
    You know he could have never left the room and the coffee video is all a sham to trick everyone. He could of had those cups from earlier in the day before she even got there along with the danish.
    it definately seems like a sham

    he's so fidgety and just did not plan that out very well IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwarner View Post
    I just think he may have come out into the hallway to see what was going
    on and judge the tenor of things, prior to him leaving - the locked door
    business an added touch of non-reality for the camera?

    Thats what I think. I think he went out in the hall to check and see if anyone heard anything. If there were people around, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cher352 View Post
    OOPS...I got caught in the closing of the thread...



    That little knuckle type knocking is common went you know someone is awake in the room. I think he did because he was hoping that it would draw the attention to him of trying to gain entrance into the room. He probably hoped a cleaning maid or someone else close by in one of the halls that could hear him pretending to get into the room.
    that might account for him seeming to look down the hallways more than once ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyL View Post
    bringing over from other thread

    link to coffee video:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...tephany-flores

    link to two stills of Joran & Stephanie in the casino:

    http://www.fotoglif.com/f/vqrs7ta9jx67/x2n6rrykaxko

    with special thanks to the people who originally posted them
    The two new pics from the casino. Just wanted to point out - in one of them, check out the "chip stacks" for both him and her. He has hardly anything and she's gots "stacks". So we now have verification that she was definitely winning that night!

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