Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #12

Salem said:

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JBean said:

Here is the deal:

No gossip or rumor

Clarify your opinions as such

LINK factual information. We are giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW because of the language barrier but generally MSM sources for facts is what we go with. Not blogs or opinion pieces.

Respect copyright. Copy 10% of the article and provide a link. Again,we a re giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW due to the language barrier. But that will tighten up again so may as well get used to it.

Sorry to sound so harsh but we have let the threads run so we could vent, compare notes, and generally get information out there on this unbelievable turn of events

But now it is time to get back to serious exchange of ideas and constructive discussion.

The name calling and pettiness has got to stop and will not be tolerated. IOW stop calling Joran- Urine and vanderslop . Good grief self edit and make sure your friends know the rule.



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Nana46 said:

Did anyone else hear Mr. Kelly (Beth's attny.) say something about what JVS said regarding "tell Beth I will see her in five years"? It was something in his exchange with JVS I guess he asked "what if she does not pay you the money" paraphrasing here.......that struck me as odd that he was bringing up the date again of five years.....as the money exchange was coming up close to the anniversary.

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catlover said:

Mr. Kelly said what if I don't have the money for you and that was JVS's reply to Mr. Kelly

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There, he will have limited visitation privileges, and his lawyers will have to pay the guards for the right to consult with their client.

A police source in Lima told The Daily Beast that Peruvian prisons are controlled by criminal mafias. There are very few foreign inmates but they still have to pay protection money to the gangs for their own security. Sources in the National Penitentiary Institute say Van der Sloot will be sent to the Castro Castro maximum security prison, in the San Juan de Lurigancho district of Lima. Most of the foreigners there are serving time for drug-trafficking. There's just one other murderer in his section of the prison: a Colombian hitman called Hugo Trujillo Ospina who was convicted in the 2006 murder of a wealthy businesswoman, Myriam Fefer, on the orders of her daughter and lesbian lover.

"If he's going to survive he will need money," said the police source who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The state provides around $1.50 a day per prisoner, he will need to buy everything from toothpaste from a decent space in which to sleep. On top of that, the mafias will be pressing him for protection money, all foreign prisoners have to pay just to stay alive." The source added: "The prisons are run by the prisoners, everything is available there: drugs, alcohol, sex."

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Harmony2 said:

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9009/13731271/Van_der_Sloot_Tells_All/full/

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Paintr said:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Media/joren-van-der-sloot-high-night-peru-killing/story?id=10893791

After van der Sloot was loaded back into the van to be transported to Lima's Miguel Castro Castro prison, Police General Cesar Guardia told The Daily Beast that most of what the accused murderer had confessed were blatant lies. "His toxicological report shows no signs that he had ingested any kind of drug," Guardia said, countering van der Sloot's perhaps strategic claim that he was high on marijuana when he killed Flores—in Peru, felony crimes committed under the influence of drugs can be treated with leniency in the courts.

Guardia also told The Daily Beast that van der Sloot lied about the timing of the murder. Earlier in the week, he told investigators that he had gone out to buy coffee for himself and Flores, and killed her when he returned to the room after finding the young woman on his computer. In fact, according to Guardia, hotel surveillance cameras show that van der Sloot faked his early-morning coffee run. Instead, he left the room with two empty paper cups and then summoned a member of the hotel staff to open his door, lying that he had forgotten his key.

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doobiedoo52 said:

I just posted a note about Joran telling Beth Holloway things that Natalee said when she was drunk and questioned whether it triggered memories of that same night 5 years before.

Here is the quote from the book:
According to Joran, after they left Carlos'n Charlie's, Natalee asked to see sharks.
He told her there were no sharks, but she insisted. So they drove to the lighthouse.
On the way over, Joran says he and Natalee made out in the backseat, but she was
"so drunk," she kept falling asleep and waking up.

Joran relates some crazy things Natalee supposedly said — that she's a lesbian,
that she's related to Hitler.

There are only 3 pages but if you'd like to refresh some early memories here is the link:
http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/family/real/natalee-holloway-daughter-beth-holloway

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Paintr said:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Media/joren-van-der-sloot-high-night-peru-killing/story?id=10893791

After van der Sloot was loaded back into the van to be transported to Lima's Miguel Castro Castro prison, Police General Cesar Guardia told The Daily Beast that most of what the accused murderer had confessed were blatant lies. "His toxicological report shows no signs that he had ingested any kind of drug," Guardia said, countering van der Sloot's perhaps strategic claim that he was high on marijuana when he killed Flores—in Peru, felony crimes committed under the influence of drugs can be treated with leniency in the courts.

Guardia also told The Daily Beast that van der Sloot lied about the timing of the murder. Earlier in the week, he told investigators that he had gone out to buy coffee for himself and Flores, and killed her when he returned to the room after finding the young woman on his computer. In fact, according to Guardia, hotel surveillance cameras show that van der Sloot faked his early-morning coffee run. Instead, he left the room with two empty paper cups and then summoned a member of the hotel staff to open his door, lying that he had forgotten his key.

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