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    Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #13

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    Thanks,

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    Also, please remember there is to be NO name calling of ANYONE! No bashing of anyone, etc. If you don't know the rules, read the TOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean View Post
    Here is the deal:

    No gossip or rumor

    Clarify your opinions as such

    LINK factual information. We are giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW because of the language barrier but generally MSM sources for facts is what we go with. Not blogs or opinion pieces.

    Respect copyright. Copy 10% of the article and provide a link. Again,we a re giving a bit of leeway FOR NOW due to the language barrier. But that will tighten up again so may as well get used to it.

    Sorry to sound so harsh but we have let the threads run so we could vent, compare notes, and generally get information out there on this unbelievable turn of events

    But now it is time to get back to serious exchange of ideas and constructive discussion.

    The name calling and pettiness has got to stop and will not be tolerated. IOW stop calling Joran- Urine and vanderslop . Good grief self edit and make sure your friends know the rule.



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    Another horror story of life in Castro Castro:

    http://translate.google.com/translat...10%26prmd%3Div

    Note the last sentence of the article:

    "The members of organized gangs do not tolerate sexual abuse against children and defenseless women. El hechon es considerado como un acto “cobarde”. The hechon is considered an act "cowardly."

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    Originally Posted by Carolina Girl [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5284597#post5284597"][/ame]

    Sometimes I think he couldn't tell where NH is if he wanted too. If it is true that his father helped cover up the crime I would think that his father being a lawyer and JVDS only being 17 that he would have been wise just to handle it himself and and not even let the 17 yr old know what actually happened with NH's body. If his father had let JVDS know then he would have to worry that JVDS could break and drag him down with him.

    I carried this over from previous thread. I agree that there is no point in asking JVS for location of NH's body - don't think he knows. I really think the confession in the van when he was smoking pot and secretly recorded was the closest to the truth. In that confession he says "a friend but not his father" basically took over after he called him after NH siezed and brought the body out to sea. Of course no one has friends (IMO) that would dispose of a body - none of my friends anyway - it was probably Paulus. Paulus knew his son was a blabber mouth and never told him any more. At the time though the fishermen huts were broken into and I believe it is quite possible she was "buried" in one of those. We have to remember that Paulus said "no body no crime". He wouldn't have said that if the body was on the island possibly to be found some day. I just don't think that JVS can tell us any more at this point.

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    I don't know if this has been posted, but Investigative Discovery channel is having a special on Natalie Holloway at 3 pm Central. (o/t but for those interested there is a special on Jaycee Dugard at 2 pm)

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    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
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    I am not convinced that he staged a rape. I think that there was an attempt of rape and she fought it and robbery was an afterthought before he took off.

    Think about what a young man's thoughts were when a young attractive girl goes into a hotel room with him. I sure he thought this was part of the deal. IMO

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    IMO, it will be challenging to keep up with the ever changing stories regardless of the media source, simply due to the revolving stories put forth by the perp...

    From an article published today...snipped>>

    Van Der Sloot Told Chile Police Thief Killed Woman
    Chilean Police: Van Der Sloot Initially Said Unidentified Intruder Killed Woman In Peru Hotel


    In the version offered to Chilean investigators, Van der Sloot said he and Flores were surprised in the early morning by two robbers in an apparent assault.

    "A man came out of the bathroom blocking the access door with a knife in his hand. On the bed was another man with a gun,"the Spanish-language report quotes him as saying. "The man with the knife said to be quiet, but Stephany began talking in a loud voice and he hit her in the face, making her nose bleed."

    It also says Van der Sloot told Chilean agents that the previous day, he and Flores had been extorted by apparent police officers who demanded $4,000 and a wristwatch he brought from Thailand.

    Chilean police told their Peruvian colleagues that the 22-year-old Dutchman responded in English to their questioning but refused to sign a declaration after learning he would be expelled to Peru.



    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6577895.shtml

    IMO, this is where the initial "stabbing" rumor probably started, from those who heard / read about the "alleged" robber with a knife. I also think this was the initial tip, from the perp himself, that led to determining robbery as a motive. My interpretation, from this article alone, is that JVDS was already trying to set up a robbery scenario in order to account for the missing items. His refusal to sign a declaration is very telling...IMO!

    Well, JVDS...gonna have to be a little quicker on your feet in Peru...You're not in Kansas...errrr, I mean Aruba anymore...

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    This article contains a psychological profile of VDS as well as more details on his confession;

    "Van der Sloot Profile: gambling addiction, obsessive, ironic and self-confessed murderer "

    http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/1...sino-confeso-0
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLNY View Post
    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
    His cell is small, dirty and disgusting. Just what he deserves. It looks like he knows enough Spanish to communicate with the guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLNY View Post
    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
    Lovely welcoming committee on his way to the car.
    Viva Peru!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLNY View Post
    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
    Thanks so much for the video! Seeing Joran behind prison bars warms my heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLNY View Post
    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
    Thanks so much. I'm a little confused though in the translation of "laundry and silo" inside the cell.

    I did notice he said he was sick in the head and hadn't eaten for two days.
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    I was impressed with x-ray he had to go thru.... I wish we could have seen more of the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLNY View Post
    This is what we've been waiting to see. I can't believe that they actually let a camera man accompany him to his cell.

    "See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail"

    http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/...r-sloot-carcel
    Thank you!

    Welcome to your new home, buddy.

    Can someone here translate what he was saying?

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    The alleged "immigration document":



    The other "conspiracy theory stuff" is coming from this "press conference" with Dan Young and Kelly Castillo:

    http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...rch&plindex=7#
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