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Originally Posted by JBean
Reminder we are a victim friendly forum. At this point the entire family would be considered victims. Please don't play word games with me.
When we say victim friendly we mean all those that are immediately victimized by what appears to be a terrible crime. This includes the family that is missing a 7 year old child for the love of God.
You are free to discuss your opinions on statements made, possible doubts you may have or questions raised by the information or lack thereof.
But if you start throwing around careless accusations against the family or sleuthing out their personal information or discussing the color of lipstick someone was wearing, you will be given a no expense paid vacation.
If the situation changes and if the investigation by LE points back to the family then these rules will change. We roll with the news and as more information is revealed and as LE gives us information, we adjust.
As I have said, imagine this is your child and people are looking at YOU.
Moreover, stereotyping some of these players is positively embarrassing to the forum. KNOCK IT OFF
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Carried over from thread # 11 - Originally posted by JBean
All we are asking on this forum is for care and respect to be shown before throwing a family under a bus.A family that has a missing 7 year old.
We are not asking you to ignore behavior, statements to the press or anything else the family says or does. Feel free to discuss what you see and think. Link facts and stop rumors, that's what we like to do.
If you feel censored here then please post at a forum where they do not moderate and you can say anything you like. We do moderate and some people like it and some people don't. We know we cannot please everyone and so we do not try. We stay true to what we think is right and for now not accusing the family is in line with LE and that is the tact we will take. You can be suspicious of whomever you choose, just be cautious in your posting. As always it is not ok to sleuth family members on this board until they have been named as a POI or a suspect or LE leads us to believe they are being considered actively.
As always, if this changes we will roll with it and we will adjust. But to lay out a families personal affairs when they are not even on the radar at this time is just wrong. There will be plenty of time to investigate if things change and often they do.
Many of you continue to make comments ( direct and indirect) about your disapproval of our guidelines. It disrupts the flow of the thread and we are all growing weary of it.
I am asking, again, to please stop.
I don't know how to carry over a post. I replied to a post from debs in the last thread.
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Multnomah Co. Sheriff's Office has two pages for Kyron:
Kyron's Media thread has all the press conference videos and much much more! If you're looking to find a video or article or some specific case information, this is the place to start!
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Interceder is a great website to quickly see if there are any new news reports about Kyron:
Is the Stepmother of Kyron Horman Being Unfairly Targeted?
Little by little, some clarification is emerging to the public about the investigation of the missing 7 year old Oregonian, Kyron Horman. The police may have their reasons, but they are withholding as much information about the case as they possibly can withhold.
Professionals such as Clint VanZandt, a criminal profiler and former FBI agent, find this "tight-lipped` approach to be counterproductive to any forward progress in the case. Cooperation between the police and family, and there interaction with the media, can go a long way in solving a case. The classic case of Elizabeth Smart was cited by VanZandt, as proof of this
What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
Ralph Waldo Emerson ~
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Responding to Elle's post from here:
My understanding of the vague statement that one parent was asked to go to the house doesn't imply knowledge (to us) of where the parents were at the time the request was made, other than to say that neither was at the house. Kaine in all possibility could have been at work, coming home from work, headed to the school from work, etc etc.
May I please bring this over?
Originally Posted by debs [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5297624#post5297624"][/ame]
According to the video linked just a few posts up, the truck was towed for "mechanical problems" and the reporter quoted the sheriff's office, who told her that the truck was towed at the family's request. I assume that qualifies as a "WHY"
Thank you.Do we know what mechanical problems?Who usually drove the white truck?
ALL EVIL NEEDS TO SUCCEED IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING!!!!
Anyway, the scanner chatter does make it appear to me that the stepmom and biodad were at the school, and LE asked for one of them to go back to the house.
I don't know, just one thing to think about while waiting for some news. JMO
Bringing this post over from last thread. Some very good points, IMO.
Originally Posted by GrainneDhu
This can NOT be the same white truck seen around 3p the day he went missing & again around 2a (by Mr. Kelly) cos neither parent would've been able to get away
at that later time with LE around..I assume they were still present at their home for obvious reasons..It still does not change my opinion tho that possibly the perp scouted out that area for a later 'dump' site..It does, however, change whatever opinion I may have re: WHO the perp is cos I'm not ready yet to believe the suspicious actions of this white truck are meaningless to the case.
My kids take the bus in the morning not after school but if I was told my child did not get on the bus I would rush to school. It either means that my child is left behind at school or got on the wrong bus my mistake.
I would not assume my child had been missing all day!
Wait a minute, I'm confused. I thought I read somewhere they both were at the bus stop-Sm and Dad. Was that a rumor or fact? Guess I'll go link hunting..I'm interested in knowing if Kyrons father was at the bus stop too or where he was.
elle, thanks !!
Last edited by Calliope; 06-16-2010 at 10:29 AM.
note to some of us who are following this thread and the scanner one. We can post a link to the scanner thread but we may not carry over transcripts. I was unaware of this until it was explained on the scanner thread by Kimster earlier this a.m.
Every single time I get frustrated, some WS member or a group of them reminds me of exactly why this is the best true crime forum on the web.
Parent Gina Zimmerman said she last saw Kyron in the morning, when he posed in a classroom in front of his "red-eyed tree frog" science project. She said her daughter is one of Kyronís best friends and she knew him well.
Zimmerman said that Kyron was not the type of child to wander off. "He knows 'stranger danger," she said. "He's a really good kid."
Gina is also the PTA pres.
O/T - one of our managers at the law firm were I work was just let go b/c it turns out he was a sex offender. He worked there for two years and the firm supposedly does background checks on all employees. The reason why it was found out was because another employee did a simple google of his name and there it was for all too see: rape in the first degree and a sodomy charge. Although he is 49 now and this crime was committed when he was 18 he was let go. The crime was in Florida and our firm is in NYC. Sometimes employees do not do thorough background checks even though they say they do. I know that most board of eds fingerprint their employees but I would double check every single employee at the school including contractors and vendors.
"She will be mutha of the year" Rick Anthony's response to Cindy
If it were my child, the very first thing I'd do is dash to the place of the last confirmed siting of my child. And I'd probably do something stupid like leave my cell phone and purse behind!
I would figure that if my child came home while I was gone s/he would have the sense to sit on the front porch step and wait for me.
In the Riley Fox case, when her brother woke her father up to tell him Riley was missing, Kevin Fox's immediate reaction was to search outside for approximately 40 minutes. This was seen as highly suspicious... but they have since arrested a suspect based on DNA evidence. So Kevin Fox's reaction was just his normal, individual reaction in an emergency, not indicating guilt at all.