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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    paulette, I see you down there! Hi girl! Are you seeing any asteroids that may be significant (namely anything to do with meat, his name, etc.... fwiw this guy had/has his own business called Tenino Meat...)
    I just saw your post this minute. I ran his chart using "Howell" & "Nancy", using the transits for the Friday chart. BML 6:57 Capricorn falls on "Howell" 6:04 Capricorn, in his chart.

    He has "Wacker" 1:30 Cancer, trine BML 1:56 Pisces, trine Pluto 1:44 Scorpio.

    He has "Nancy" 27:37 Libra trine the Mercury significator for Nancy Moyer 27 Aquarius in the Friday chart!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulette View Post
    I just saw your post this minute. I ran his chart using "Howell" & "Nancy", using the transits for the Friday chart. BML 6:57 Capricorn falls on "Howell" 6:04 Capricorn, in his chart.

    He has "Wacker" 1:30 Cancer, trine BML 1:56 Pisces, trine Pluto 1:44 Scorpio.

    He has "Nancy" 27:37 Libra trine the Mercury significator for Nancy Moyer 27 Aquarius in the Friday chart!!
    wow! Thanks Paulette!

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    Nancy Moyer

    Facies Sun conjunction a fixed star with a reputation of extreme brutality or anger.
    At the Sunrise, the Moon and Saturn on the day he was born, were conjunct however since we do not know his time of birth, this is only a mention of this, that they did conjunct in Scorpio that early morning at the Sunrise.

    I could go into more detail since Edgar Cayce’s name has been mentioned a few times to suggest that he tells us in his readings that the First Breath natal is not necessarily when the Soul arrived in the physical body, but for all intents and purposes, the First Breath or known time of the birth suffices in most cases just fine.
    There have of course been books written by the late John Willner who studied Cayce’s work as well as Astrology and in his capacity as a Scientist, suggests much more work needs to be done and he recommends the day for the year progressions as highly rated in his work should be used often to compensate if we do nothing else.

    This may be one case that he makes a good case for, but we don't know the "first breath" time anyway, so it's a moot point for now.


    I believe I’ve studied Cayce’s work longer then John Willner, but I can find no fault in his work, for he has also been an Astrologer far longer then I, and is big on statistical analysis.


    He does question however the authenticity of the 1st Breath charts in his “The Perfect Horoscope” as well as his “The Rising Sign Problem” published years ago and you can read some of it today on Amazon for free there.

    I wondered when I saw the Sunrise chart.....with the Moon conjunct Saturn so closely at that point.


    In this man’s chart whether the Sun Rise time with the Moon conj. Saturn, in Scorpio or
    The Sun conjunct fixed star Facies, there is certainly a great amount of inner rage within the man to conceive of such a crime as this would be (IF he did do as he is accused of having done)


    His Venus in late degree Scorpio, is worrisome for sure, as is his Sun and Mercury conjunction.

    In this chart we also see his Chiron (the inner wound we all bear) is conjunct to Algol (her throat was cut) and also the aspects to the other planets to Chiron are all harsh ones where made.
    For instance, Chiron quincunx Neptune (very harsh) and Neptune is often delusional and often creates it’s own reality outside of the others reality when compromised harshly.


    Chiron is also opposed to his late degree Scorpio Venus. Venus in Scorpio is in Detriment, and does not operate well here. However unlike Joanne Wickenburg’s original case study of Serial Killers, he does not have a signature of the 59% in her study that have Neptune Rx in his chart. Neptune is direct in his natal.
    But then again, no one is suggesting a serial killer here.

    http://www.joannewickenburg.com/id45_serial_killers.htm
    Although she did a great service I think starting this study, there has since been a larger study conducted and so the search for Astrological indicators goes on unabated in research since this initial work.
    I’d be more interested however in comparing his chart to those of others like minded, and not the Serial Killer variety.

    As mentioned, HIS Mars does sit atop HER Venus in the Via Combusta, or the “Fiery Way” between 15Libra and 15Scorpio , but that alone should not be enough for this type of crime to have taken place.
    http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/via_combusta.html

    http://www.astrodispatch.com/2010/08...hemical-fires/



    Horrendous implications…. I'd not studied this case before in it's details , and was very shocked to see this today.

    You'd think at my age, I'd be all out of "shocks" to the system.
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    Nancy Moyer

    These charts are not for the Arrest date, but for the Day that Nancy Moyer disappeared in 2009 Transits:



    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    I reread the article, and see that the woman in the truck (passenger seat) was NOT Nancy Moyer, but another older woman!
    Shocking, still!

    Do we have the date of birth of this other woman yet?
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Here is the chart for the lady in the vehicle, the one who had her throat slashed:

    Transits for this event:



    Cause of Death: Slit throat & Strangulation

    1. Vanda Skau Boone: Death Record from the Social Security Death ...
    Name: Vanda Skau Boone. Date of Birth: Tuesday May 30, 1950. Date of Death: Sunday August 08, 2010. Est. Age at death: 60 years, 2 months, 9 days ...
    http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ss...2129374E900ED0


    I read he (Howell) is mentally incompetent to stand trial however.

    http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in...ance-and-grace
    http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in...of-vanda-boone

    I had halfway expected to find evidence of a throat cut or slashed , with Algol, (the Medusa's Head) in the natal chart or progressions charts.

    In this case, we see that the Black Moon Lilith is inching it's ways towards natal
    Moira - and the midpoint being Algol between the two in her Progressions chart.

    Midpoint of 25degrees57.5minutes Taurus conjuncts Algol (Progressions)

    In addition to this she also had the unfortunate parameters of 24.51Leo a murder degree reflecting perhaps the mindset of the killer as well with her progressed Mercury here.

    Transits:

    Transiting Atropos at 9Virgo, (the Body in the Ditch) critical degree....
    nearing natal Saturn with TR Mercury over Natal Saturn (exact orb) or 12Virgo

    The Sun for her that day, perilous at 15Leo (termed very inharmonious) and often referred to as the worse degree of the zodiac, meets up to join her natal Pluto at 16Leo.

    It's nice that her workplace co-workers and boss recall her so fondly, and a shame it needed to end this way for her.

    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Leomoon, there is no "Vanda" asteroid, but there is a "Vand". It's at 26:56 Taurus in Howell's chart. Her progressed chart has "Vand" 23:19 Sagitarius trine "Howell" 23:18 Aries.

    Howell has "Nancy" 27:38 Libra. Nancy Moyer has Venus 27:39 Libra.

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    Bernard Howell pleaded guilty to 1st degree murder.

    http://www.theolympian.com/2011/03/1...ylink=misearch


    Wondering if another look at Nancy's chart would be beneficial.


    Recently, human remains were found in an area near Hart's Lake. Many of us are wondering if the remains could be those of Nancy.

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/0...#ixzz1HfmiPD3d


    ETA: Ms. Facetious commented that Josh Powell had been to Hart's Lake in WA State and thought about Susan Powell.

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    The chart we worked from, her last seen, did show trouble in the form of Saturn coming up (rising in the First Quadrant), at 18°. When Howell pled guilty, Mars was 18° )(, which is one connect. Jupiter is now going over the Venus of that evening in House 8 of death and another possible rape. That is certainly not enough to tie Howell to this disappearance, even with his location one mile away, but it is a start. Venus was in the last decanate of Aquarius for the plea but not exact to the malefics of her last seen. The exact Mars - Saturn opposition, event to event is powerful. We would simply need more.
    Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.

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    We do know a few more things about him personally. He had taken up a darkly Plutonian life. By progression in 2009, his Sun had come into exact square with his progressed Pluto. His Saturn was quincunx the 15°II lunar node of his chart, from 15° Scorpio, Pluto's Sign (& his Moon Sign). His progressed Moon went over Nancy's Pluto at 3° Libra in 2009. Pluto was 3° Capricorn the evening she vanished (exact square). Howell now had the eerie conjunction of Neptune & Jupiter at 1° Capricorn. This was by progression and allows him to lead a double life. The highly significant Mars - Saturn opposition in the above post at #54, 18° - 18° is also exactly square Nancy's Saturn at 18°II. Lastly, his progressed Mars in Plutonian Scorpio = her natal Mars!
    Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.


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    If I could find a time the human remains were located at Harts Lake; would that be helpful?

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    Thanks but we don't need the time. From the article you provided, I see the exact date was March 11 and that suffices for this purpose. Assuming, I am, that your question is whether the find relates to Nancy Moyer (not to Keith Howell). The connections between Nancy Moyer & Keith Howell are already explored above.
    Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.

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    Thank you Tuba. After all this time reading here, I'm embarrassed to say I still don't get some of the finer details in post (#55).

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    I checked the planets of March 11, 2011 against the disappearance charts and so far, this does look like a find positive to the event(s) of 2009. If these remains are not Nancy's, they belong to a victim killed on that long ago weekend but we know of no one else missing in Tenino.
    Life takes a toll. Please have exact change ready.

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    This was posted on WS today about the remains found at Harts Lake:


    "Human remains may be those of torture victim

    TACOMA, Wash. -- Human remains found near Harts Lake earlier this month may belong to a victim of brutal torture that was captured on tape, according to investigators.

    The human bones were found in a wooded area near a hiking trail on March 10, prompting Pierce County detectives to launch a homicide investigation.

    The medical examiner has not positively identified the remains, but said there are several notable similarities between the remains and the torture victim seen in the footage being bound, gagged and tortured with a knife, according to the statement of probable cause"
    .

    http://www.komonews.com/news/119029234.html


    I notice here they give the date of March 10th but that could be a mis-writing. Everything else I've read says March 11th.

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