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    Stranger abduction theory

    Discuss your thoughts about a stranger abduction here.

    Why do you think this might be a stranger abduction case?

    If it is, why would LE call it an isolated case?

    Why didn't we hear that LE was interviewing RSOs in the area?

    Please put some reasons behind your theories. I didn't create this to make the case against the SM and family stronger, but to provoke more thought into the stranger abduction scenario.

    For example, if it were a stranger abduction, I don't know why they would have TM's pics on flyers?

    Or, I might think it was a stranger abduction because another student said they saw TM leave without Kyron that day. Just some examples.


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    I don't think this is a stranger abduction because of the way it all came about.

    - in school
    - with parents, teachers around
    - someone would have seen something, most likely
    - the parents would probably be begging for Kyron's return
    - LE would NOT say it's an "isolated case" if it was a stranger abduction
    - LE would talk more about the perp...try to give info about him/her. They've said nothing.

    All of that and more indicates this is not a stranger abduction.



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    I do not think there is any chance this was a stranger abduction.

    I am basing my opinion on a list of hundreds of clues in this case. Some of those posted in these threads and other clues we cannot post about.

    Threading it all together in one brain makes me certain. There are aspects of the case I have not spent a lot of time on in terms of details (such as what happened to Kyron when they left the school) but that will be the next chapter as we all start to learn more.

    I do hope his body is found soon enough that forensics can take over and little Kyron can finally 'speak' to all of us about what happened to him after school that tragic morning.



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    I was looking at the maps. One thing that struck me was the distance from the road to K's home. I used to live in a house situated like that, but there weren't that much folliage/trees. I walked my 7 y/o back and forth to the road to meet the bus every day. Does anyone know how busy or what the speed limit is on this road?

    Of course, we don't know if SM did this, but if she did, that would require either driving with the youngest child or using a stroller to meet the bus both ways - unless she was in a routine with the youngest and left her alone to nap or what have you.

    In any event, I would think that a stranger abduction would have been MUCH easier in this location rather than at a populated school...that is if K was watched and targeted.


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    I do not think he was taken by stranger, nor by a parent (bio or step).

    I think the perp is someone he knew, likely a teenager at his school and parents of the perp are covering for their child. I think Kyron left school on foot with this person(s) and is hidden (deceased) very close to the school/where he was taken bby the perp(s).


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsjonnob View Post
    I do not think he was taken by stranger, nor by a parent (bio or step).

    I think the perp is someone he knew, likely a teenager at his school and parents of the perp are covering for their child. I think Kyron left school on foot with this person(s) and is hidden (deceased) very close to the school/where he was taken bby the perp(s).
    I feel that way too....

    Also, I think they know more then they are telling...


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    I think this is a very credible theory. Had not thought of the possibility before, but it makes far more sense than a stranger abduction does.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsjonnob View Post
    I do not think he was taken by stranger, nor by a parent (bio or step).

    I think the perp is someone he knew, likely a teenager at his school and parents of the perp are covering for their child. I think Kyron left school on foot with this person(s) and is hidden (deceased) very close to the school/where he was taken bby the perp(s).


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    I believe Kyron was taken by someone he may have known at the school. Or there is a possibility that it was a stranger but someone that Kyron thought belonged there and was harmless. Such as if the person told them they had a child there in a different grade or someone who ask Kyron to help him with something.

    When I have watched Oprah's shows on stranger abductions the MO was basically the same thing. The person who pretended to be the predator would walk up to the child and ask for their help and much to the parents horror the child just took the hand of the person and walked off with them.

    I think Kyron would think that a bad stranger would be someone that looked like the boogeyman or boogeywomen. Scary. Someone he may have to fear trying to nab him from his house or his own yard but at his age with his cognitive thinking I don't believe he would see any danger from those that were inside his own school.

    I think Kyron had been brought up to respect adults and had no circumstances where he had to fear one so imo he saw adults as kind people.

    Imo, whomever did this saw Kyron and his mom there and he saw Kyron's mom leave. I think he struck when the opportunity arose shortly after Kyron left to go back to his classroom.

    Imo, it is likely this person stopped to chat with Kyron a second as Kyron was going to his classroom, bragging on his exhibit, and telling him he really needed to go see the electric exhibit. He may have told him the electric exhibit was downstairs and the perp was waiting at the bottom of the stairs when Kyron came back down after talking with Tanner and told Kyron he needed his help first and needed to bring something inside from his vehicle. So they went out the exit door closest to Kyron's room.

    IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsjonnob View Post
    I do not think he was taken by stranger, nor by a parent (bio or step).

    I think the perp is someone he knew, likely a teenager at his school and parents of the perp are covering for their child. I think Kyron left school on foot with this person(s) and is hidden (deceased) very close to the school/where he was taken bby the perp(s).
    Exactly how I feel too


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    I'd like to add a theory that the perp has or ordered a copy of one or more of the grandfathers books.


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    I'm questioning something about the hallway outside Kyron's classroom. Terri says she saw Kyron going up the hall towards his class. This may have been discounted, but I thought the classmate said that the aide/volunteer was in the room and missed Kyron for her group of five before the teacher entered the room. If this is true, the teacher would have still been out of the room past 8:45 but the others should have been in the room. Looks like some of those people would have seen or heard a stranger or Kyron out in that hall or that someone would have passed him and questioned just what he was doing. Does anyone know if I'm correct about the teacher not being in the room until after Kyron was missed by the aide at 8:45?


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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    I'm questioning something about the hallway outside Kyron's classroom. Terri says she saw Kyron going up the hall towards his class. This may have been discounted, but I thought the classmate said that the aide/volunteer was in the room and missed Kyron for her group of five before the teacher entered the room. If this is true, the teacher would have still been out of the room past 8:45 but the others should have been in the room. Looks like some of those people would have seen or heard a stranger or Kyron out in that hall or that someone would have passed him and questioned just what he was doing. Does anyone know if I'm correct about the teacher not being in the room until after Kyron was missed by the aide at 8:45?
    IIRC, the class was broken into groups shortly after 8:45 to tour the exhibits. Presumably the teacher led one group. At 10AM, as the chaperone's (and teacher) were returning their young charges to the classroom, the one shepherding Kyron's group around realized he was not there (ASSUMING THE CHILD WHO REPORTED THIS CORRECTLY). This would assume that the chaperone not only had 6 kids to begin with, but knew that one of them was Kyron, and that the one missing at the end was Kyron. So who interviewed the chaperone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    IIRC, the class was broken into groups shortly after 8:45 to tour the exhibits. Presumably the teacher led one group. At 10AM, as the chaperone's (and teacher) were returning their young charges to the classroom, the one shepherding Kyron's group around realized he was not there (ASSUMING THE CHILD WHO REPORTED THIS CORRECTLY). This would assume that the chaperone not only had 6 kids to begin with, but knew that one of them was Kyron, and that the one missing at the end was Kyron. So who interviewed the chaperone?
    I think this is such an important part of the timeline. We keep hearing that "Terri was the last one to see Kyron". So did the chaperone have Kyron at the beginning of the tour when they did the count? They obviously knew at 10 am that Kyron wasn't with them and should have been...so obviously they knew he was part of the group (or supposed to be) at some point. So did they SEE him in the beginning when they were assigned their groups? If so, maybe THAT person was the last person to see him at the school...
    I'm sure the kids that were in that group could recall if Kyron was with them while they were walking around...at least in the beginning. I haven't heard anything about comments from the other children that were in his assigned group. I'm sure LE has talked to them, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LisaB View Post
    IIRC, the class was broken into groups shortly after 8:45 to tour the exhibits. Presumably the teacher led one group. At 10AM, as the chaperone's (and teacher) were returning their young charges to the classroom, the one shepherding Kyron's group around realized he was not there (ASSUMING THE CHILD WHO REPORTED THIS CORRECTLY). This would assume that the chaperone not only had 6 kids to begin with, but knew that one of them was Kyron, and that the one missing at the end was Kyron. So who interviewed the chaperone?
    also assuming the child reported correctly - the conversation between the volunteer and this un-named teacher could have happened at the start of the tour or at anytime between the time kyron was assigned to her (the volunteer) and the time the teacher marked him absent...and in my opinion, whether this conversation happened at the start of the tour or the middle or the end doesn't matter.

    What's important, to me, is the volunteer knew kyron was assigned to her group of kids - and at some point after she was assigned kyron - she noticed him missing and SHE REPORTED KYRON MISSING in a very timely manner - to a teacher.


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    Okay, I am not 100% convinced that it is a stranger abduction but I am leaning that way. Mostly because of the timing. I believe that it would be someone connected in some way with the school. Someone who had contact with Kyron there pretty much daily and then realizing that the school year was coming to an end decided to make a move. I believe that this was at least partially planned out and it was someone who had knowledge of the school and schedule.


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