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    Exclamation Security at Kyron's School

    I know I have posted this before but I would like to make a thread on it. I live in a town of about 600 people total. The School here is Pre-School - 12th Grade it is all ONE school and no it is not a catholic school or a private school it is a public school. This right here is the statistics of the school year of 2009-2010:

    Total enrollment K-12 is 181 students. There were 23 students in the Class of 2009 and the senior class of 2010 had a total of 17 people in it.


    For as long as I can remember and I graduated in 2003 this school has had a security system on it. You have to sign in to even get into the school, they have security cameras set up, and if student is missing the school nurse will call home and find out why the student didn't come to school that day.

    I am frustrated beyond belief with Kyron's school. I really feel that if they had a security setting set up like any normal school would have they could have found Kyron by now or at least had a lot of info as to who he left the place with. Something needs to be done about this school. They need to be held accountable in someway for this. This is an outrage!


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    WillenFan - I agree with you to a point. I'm going to withhold my judgment until this all plays out. If TH took him - then no, the school should not be held accountable - but YES they should definitely take their security system/plan up 4 - 5 notches!!!!!

    I'm willing to bet that this school will ahve security cameras by the time school starts in August.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    I'm willing to bet that this school will ahve security cameras by the time school starts in August.
    Im guessing they will have an officer there and teachers will check and recheck attendance throughout the day - Security will be tight. IMO


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    I honestly thought after all the school shootings etc. security at schools was beefed up. I know where I live it's air tight. You have to physically be buzzed in the school. The office staff can see you on video when you buzz. I also know that personal phone calls home to those not in school without prior notification occur. This is in elementary through high school around here. I am SHOCKED that a child can be absent at this school without a phone call home. It boggles my mind.
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    I know if the school had cameras, something would have been recorded. However, if the school had some kind of phone call policy in place, I wonder if it would have mattered.

    Imagine this scenario (especially consider in my hypothetical scenario that the guardian involved is frequently at the school):

    "Where did so and so go?"

    'Bathroom?"

    "So-and So's mom just popped in and she said they had an appointment this afternoon, they just left"

    "Ok, I'll let the office know"

    ...and then the Office people would say "Well then, we obviously don't need to call their house regarding so-and so's absence, she was just here and physically told us"


    I guess i think an additional security feature should be written documentation in regards to the date of the absence signed by a guardian and also the guardian picking up the child must sign the child out.


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    Special events is when security goes all to heck. I've seen people open cafeteria doors
    ( only opens to go out, you can't enter through it ) to let someone in so that they do not have to walk around.


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    I live in a small town too, and the system here is that the secretary will call you if your child is absent and you have not called it in.

    Pretty simple and basic, and in place for many years.
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    I think we had better wait to blame the school for anything. If they had good reason to think Kyron was with his stepmother, why would they call his home? Even more so, if they were under the impression he had an appointment of some kind?

    The parents/population may have enjoyed the idea of a less rigorous atmosphere, it may have suited their idea of their community. And if it turns out Kyron left with with a guardian or parent, they may still be able to hold onto that idea. But I am sure they will have cameras etc. in place, in any case.
    Just my opinion, of course.


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    For the last six years, I have worked at a rural elementary school with approximately 600 students in grades k-6. This year we finally received funding and had security cameras installed but only at the main entrances and exits of the building. It is required that you check in and out with the office but not everyone will do this. We have "those people" in all towns that believe that they are above the rules and will not be bothered with signing in or out of the school. "They" believe it's their child they can come and go as they please.

    Also, if a child is absent no one calls to see why the child isn't there, it's usually up to the teacher to obtain a note from the child's parents as to why the child was absent. All schools are different depending upon state guidelines.

    I'm just saying I can't imagaine the school being held accountable for his disappearance especially if he was counted absent on that day unless the school has him on video in the school on that day.


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    "The school should be just as guilty as the person who is behind this"?

    Oh please. Equating human error with possible kidnapping and worse is beyond the pale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MD MOMMY View Post
    I honestly thought after all the school shootings etc. security at schools was beefed up. I know where I live it's air tight. You have to physically be buzzed in the school. The office staff can see you on video when you buzz. I also know that personal phone calls home to those not in school without prior notification occur. This is in elementary through high school around here. I am SHOCKED that a child can be absent at this school without a phone call home. It boggles my mind.
    I have the same thing implemented at the school my child goes to. However, at their end of the year presentation they opened up the teachers parking area for parents to park and anyone could walk across the playground and enter the school. There was no buzzing in or signing in that day - at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by kseal07 View Post
    I'm just saying I can't imagaine the school being held accountable for his disappearance especially if he was counted absent on that day unless the school has him on video in the school on that day.
    I think that Kyron's story could be the case to try and get this passed for each school. I know that money is tight around here lately, but if we focus as collective (meaning, parents start rallying for security equipment at the school, to call when a child is absent, etc. etc.) things could and probably will change.

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    question for clarification...

    Wasnt it the "school and/or district policy" that the school did NOT have to call the parents if a child didnt show up for school ????

    tia


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    A school is not a money making entity. Except for fundraisers. If taxpayers want security in schools, they will have to vote to provide the money to do that.

    If the taxpayers do not see that as an issue, then it will not happen.


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    So many schools in IL have to have a signature and time of departure for the child to leave. Even when my kids were in High School I had to go into the attendance office to sign them out before they would let one of my kids leave with me. It should be that way in ALL schools.


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    I think the school should be held accountable because they all need security cameras for the doorways and halls. Also, Kyron's coat and backpack are said to have been left in his classroom, and I can't believe that the teacher or classmates never noticed. The teacher just assumed that the doctor appt. was for that day, but didn't actually hear for sure, plus had reason to believe that he did not because she still had to fill out paperwork and there was the talent show. Kyron's emergency numbers should have been called at some point during the day because the school did not actually have a reported excused abscense from his parents. Assuming something is not an abscence report. However, Kyron was seen with his SM before the 8:45 bell when the kids were to gather into small groups for tours of other class science projects. Again though, this was just an assumption that he actually left with her on a day that he should have been there for the fun day, they were not told that he was ill that morning, his things were there, there was paperwork to still fill out, and no real abscence report.
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