Totally agree, the confession is irrelevant other than to confirm in the court that he is a liar that has no intention of co-operating with the police.
I have seen an article where it says the Sloots moved to Aruba when JVDS was 2, but this wouldn't be true unless Anita returned to NL for Val's birth....which may be so, I just don't see it, or it isn't specifically mentioned anywhere= probably because it isn't relevant, but in this same article ( not in the amended version online but the original ) it stated Paul was involved in a 20 year battle to keep a highway from bring developed through his ancestral home grounds ( forget the exact name, in Boxtel ) and I shouldn't assume but that would have ended in 1993, when Joran was 6.
Yet another version is told by Joran when he said he felt alone and alienated on his first day of kindergarten when he was the only child speaking Dutch.
Maybe this is his recollection only because even in Aruba there would have been Dutch children in his class- and if he has an August birthday he could have been younger or one of the youngest in his class- so maybe he turned 5 and immediately enrolled that year, which would be 1992- if not, 1993 which is the year Paul won his case in Boxtel, and would make more sense then the family moving to Aruba before then.
I did look back and remember recollections of past girlfriends of Joran when he was 14/15 and this was in Aruba. So I gather the info from the Biography.com article must be a mistranslation or inaccurate to state the family moved to Aruba when JVDS was 16 unless they kept two residences, one in the NL. Which is not a stretch, I suppose.
Ok, thanks for reading the rambling...
“Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.” - Elvis
something tells me we will be onto this subject soon so here's a snippet from wiki:
Familial searching is the use of family members' DNA to identify a closely related suspect in jurisdictions where large DNA databases exist, but no exact match has been found. The first successful use of the practice was in a UK case where a man was convicted of manslaughter when he threw a brick stained with his own blood into a moving car. Police could not get an exact match to the UK's DNA database because the man had no criminal convictions, but police implicated him using a close relative's DNA.
 Surreptitious DNA collecting
Police forces may collect DNA samples without the suspects' knowledge, and use it as evidence. Legality of this mode of proceeding has been questioned in Australia.
In the United States, it has been accepted, courts often claiming that there was no expectation of privacy, citing California v. Greenwood (1985), during which the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment does not prohibit the warrantless search and seizure of garbage left for collection outside the curtilage of a home. Critics of this practice underline the fact that this analogy ignores that "most people have no idea that they risk surrendering their genetic identity to the police by, for instance, failing to destroy a used coffee cup. Moreover, even if they do realize it, there is no way to avoid abandoning one’s DNA in public." 
My nightmare is that the DNA test will show Paulus Van der Sloot was in Peru.
I am within an inch of JVDS' size. In all those encounters, however unpleasant, I never once had occasion to lay hands on anyone, much less throw anyone off a bridge. (A dangerous stunt, however, low the bridge.)
This isn't to say there couldn't have been unique circumstances in the "bridge incident" that might legally justify JVDS' reported conduct. But the incomplete and badly translated account we have falls short of that justification. "Tried to start a fight with..." can have a range of meanings, many of which do not justify bodily assault.
So of course you are right that this alleged incident doesn't prove JVDS a psychopath. At the same time, it doesn't prove him a choir boy either.
But hypothetically, if they were, how does this mitigate the crime of murder? Since when does killing an accomplice mitigate the murder? A defense attorney might use the info in a "smear the victim" sort of defense, but I don't know of a legal concept where killing an accomplice is a mitigating factor. Do you?
the "colluding" if thats what they were up to would only for me in my mind suggest another reason as to what may have caused the argument... or maybe he had been cheating and she was going to tell someone?? who knows, none of it supports killing a person as a result. if there is info on jvds laptop that could prove that he had been cheating would it change any of his charges? we know that it changes things if a person is robbed & murdered - but what about a place(theft not robbery)anyone?
Timeline, map, etc for Rachael
Respectively snipped from Selena:
I wonder what happened if that was the case. And I wonder whose account he was taking that money from. Perhaps at that point both his and Stephany's accounts were frozen so he couldn't get any money and couldn't get his stuff back?
Good point and good possibility.
Timeline, map, etc for Rachael
this would leave him with much less than $25,000 for traveling as part of the extortion monies were paid in cash ( $10,000) and the rest was wired.
I have to think the account into which the additional $15,000 was wired was frozen.
...and he may have had Stephany's cash and deposited it into one of his accounts the same day to find out he was locked out when he tried to cash it out. I doubt if he got her pin # but that hasn't come up yet...
I looked up ATM limits an found this on a travel board although JVDS may not have had access to this bank-
" in Peru there is a Peruvian bank called BCP, which allow all the credit cards around the world, the maximum ammount of money for cash is 400.00 Dollars a day..."
that and an ATM called GlobalNET from Interbank, accessible from drugstores and other travel friendly locations.
so many options...
I suppose this is in light of Garcia and JVDS both having played poker with Stephany in Peru, Garcia losing money to Stephany, Stephany winning the next day/ morning after at the same casino, and then accompanying Joran back to his hostel.
I'm no poker expert so I can't say how plausible this is or isn't. there is the question of whether or not she appeared to not know him purposely on the casino tape when she met him two days prior and if she passed him a chip in her handshake.
Not a lot to go on...
Peliman, if I haven't done so already, thank you for that great read
Where Does Evil Come From?
What drives a person to commit unspeakable acts of evil and depravity? We turned to forensic psychologist Stephen Diamond, author of the Evil Deeds blog on Psychology Today for the answer:
Typically it does involve some kind of trauma during childhood. Some kind of deprivation, some kind of neglect, some kind of abandonment. What we refer to psychoanalytically as severe narcissistic wounding, where the child’s basic needs for recognition of who they are and acceptance of who they are - and for love – are not met.
For example, Diamond says, you take someone who had a traumatic childhood like Charles Manson; he had an alcoholic mother who abandoned him several times and tried to sell him. He spent time living in the streets. Eventually a person like that can develop a rage around how they’re being treated.
In my opinion, it is this anger that festers over time, that turns into resentment, that turns into embitterment, that turns into rage. It is this rage that underlies what we call -- what you’re referring to -- as evil, or evil behavior or evil deeds. That's really, to me, the driving force in violence.
Okay … but what about someone who didn’t have an extremely neglectful childhood. If Juran van der Sloot turns out to be guilty, he would seem to go against that idea. He came from an intact family with professionally successful parents. Diamond said:
This idea of narcissistic wounding is still there. It’s still possible because narcissistic wounding is something that can be much more subtle. In other words, the trauma is more subtle, so if a child is in certain ways not accepted for who he is in a family, is put down, is criticized constantly or is not given enough attention or affection. Then this is a form of narcissistic wounding. And this can lead a lot of anger. And rage.
more at the link:
and when I looked it up I got this documentation.
Previous studies have suggested that offenders have lowered verbal intelligence compared to their performance intelligence. This phenomenon has been linked traditionally to childhood risk factors (e.g. deficient education, abuse and neglect). Substantial discrepancies between performance intelligence quotients (PIQ) and verbal intelligence quotients (VIQ), however, might also point to neurobiological impairments which may be associated with specific types of criminal behaviour. From the files of 133 male hospitalized offenders, PIQ, VIQ, full scale IQ (FSIQ) scores and Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) scores were derived, along with information about their criminal histories. PIQ over VIQ discrepancies were most pronounced in sexual offenders, particularly in those who had committed sexual crimes against adult victims. Furthermore, PIQ as well as PIQ higher than VIQ discrepancies correlated modestly, but significantly, with PCL-R scores. The results suggest that lower verbal compared to visual and spatial abilities may be connected specifically to egocentric and narcissistic personality traits which, in turn, may be involved in raising the risk of sexual offending.
Keywords: Intelligence; crime; sexual offending; psychopathy "
so,...since I read he checked in voluntarily for two weeks ( no substantiation of that- according to other sources he was using the internet in Thailand, and photographed in Thailand at the same time ) I wondered if this was the facility that Van der Stratten suggested to the family in 2005.
and if this is representative of their specialty.
Thank you. I do remember seeing a video and also some posting that he and another person had their accounts frozen for reasons of cheating together against others. I'll see if I can find that but will have to wade deep since it has been months. However anything, any reasons that come out of Joran's mouth is a good reason to doubt
Where I was once a strong advocate of Anita's honesty in her spoken words, I have become quite skeptical. I suppose studying her words, actions, and above all, her connections and past requests that her friends give out info which has been contrary to what LE, or even some reputable media have said, have given me a totally different insight.
I find her dishonest in most things she has said, especially the joys of Joran as a youngster. Sure there are many fmaily pictures that the people have posed for that seems to say there's alot of love there, but pictures and posing is what it sometimes is. For example, one picture she allowed on the Net where the family is all smiley behind Joran as he sits and cuddles the family dog. That was likely meant to allay the 'rumor' that Joran could actually kill a dog.
"Among the orders denied to Joran van der Sloot is the curtains to his cell, where he confessed, is dying of cold at night."
So I'm guessing that if the original "I didn't want to do it, the girl intruded into my private life..." comments were actually made by Joran, it may have been on June 5th during his first attempt at a statement. Perhaps his public defender lawyer cut him off and told him not to say anything else because she knew those comments were setting him up for the maximum sentence. Then she may have explained the different types of charges and penalties and he came up with a new version the next day that mitigated his responsibility. Just guessing.
If it was actual money he won from players and was in dispute maybe he had to pay them back. Online poker is kind of sketchy- there are disclaimers about legalities and so forth when you enter the gaming part of the site, so this is my theory that the $8700 debt was actual and not virtual and it had to be repaid by him. I don't know if he did that.
He said he had a poker debt of $6,000 that had to be repaid ( in his declaration ) that came from the $25,000 he said he obtained from Uri Geller for an interview prior to the sting operation. Geller goes on the record that he never paid him that amount- but Joran declred this ( I will find the document and post it).
so if he had only $10,000 cash and took it all to Colombia it would have been declared, unless he deposited it beforehand when he got his ticket to Bogota. If he paid off $6,000 before he entered the country in a gambling debt to an Aruban casino- or online- he had much less than the $10,000 cash from the sting before he arrived in Peru. He arrived in Peru on May 14th.
...and he is staying at the cheapest possible place close to the casino but still in a fashionable area where he can mingle with the other players, visit bars, etc.
If we was able to access his bank account in Peru ( all including the wired money ) he possibly wouldn't have been broke on the 30th. This means he probably used Stephany's cash because the account he had only allowed him XX per day, and the larger amount he expected to have available that was wired was not available. If he put her cash winnings into his account it probably wasn't available- someone in her family probably froze the account when she went missing.
ATM robberies are not uncommon in Lima. Maybe the cash was frozen automatically as a precaution at that bank or by protocol given the incidence of robberies at ATM's.
hope this answer is better