QUOTE=epiphany;5333888]IMO, he knows it is over after he has murdered her, when he's wearing the red striped shirt, when he comes out of the opened hotel room door (after a few seconds) during the pathetic door knocking, limp-wristed scene. May have just been checking out who may have been around. Had anyone heard anything, been or is in the corridors? Simply, freaked out. In that videotape, he's stalling to see if anyone's coming, waiting, making sure.
There was nothing for him to do. Can't remove the body, can't clean the scene up. It's been his hotel room for two weeks. She was seen coming in, videotapes, etc. All he cares about is a few hours head start and when eventually caught, the best explanation/confession he can muster (cause he knows he's doing time for her death), which he knows will be next to impossible. But what's he gonna do? He's not stupid. He's a socio/psychopath. One does the best he can do. Try to move forward. Say what you can say. Smoke and mirrors. Whatever it takes. He adjusts and adapts well.
Believe he returns w/employee just to attempt to establish that she was still alive at that point (She wasn't.). Her body would not have been visible from what we had discussed earlier re room layout, location of body in room, etc. IMO, he does not want the employee to discover/see the body. No way. Otherwise, he would have moved it to the room's hallway. On the videotape, you can see his boldness (and pathology) - actually, leans against the hall corridor wall as door is opened. (Would I be doing that with a dead SFR in the room?). He is trying to establish a living, breathing SFR. He'll worry about the forensics later.
As JeanC confirmed recently, there's cameras all over Peru, not to mention he's well-traveled, grew up with technology, etc. It's the only time we see some panic and fear from him, other than, perhaps, upon arrival in Peru and when paraded in front of cameras for photo shoot. Cause, like a good socio/psychop - it's all about him.[/QUOTE]
He was definitely stalling looking up and down the corridor...checking to see if all is OK.
He doesn't realize he's on Candid Camera.....yet.....does his limp pretending to knock....goes for the clerk for the door key.....knowing the clerk won't see into the room...because he's only there to open the door for him.
Besides S is not in eye view even if the clerk looks in......the hallway is too
long and S is on the side of the wall.....near the bed.
IMO even when he was paraded infront of the news media I thought he was calm, cool and collected.....he didn't look concerned or worried at all....I think he was totally disconnected.......he just didn't look like someone who was picked up for murdering a girl so viciously.......
And so a friend of his approaches (inaudible). And he keeps insisting that they need to do it because the women are going to leave. And he kept playing and playing and losing. And at one point he says "I should have gotten up and left" because he's losing.
And when he was talking about the women, I got incredibly pissed off, because how could this guy be talking in this manner when he should know that somebody knows who he is? So I got up, found the guy...
And then he starts telling me he wants to go out with me because he sees that I know people, whatever, people are friendly towards me I'm a musician and people around here know me.
I'm going, yes, yes where are you going? I knew the way this guy was talking with his friend after that he had a connection and something that happened with Natalee could happen with the association of other people. It was parallel, two of the same.
He left. And after an hour and a half he came back and sat again next to me. He said, you know, you got to go out with me, I got to go out with you. I never have luck with picking up girls...
"dance like no one's watching"
IIRC, he posted online that he was something of an "expert" at poker and offered his services to "teach" others. Really. As in "give lessons". I have wondered if she was asking him to teach her his exalted expert pokering trade secrets, never knowing what a poker loser he actually was.
Came back another day and the owner/whoever said to RB.....you know that guy? Well he killed a girl.....and RB thought he was talking about NH....then he found out he was talking about Stephany......wow....I'm sure this guy's mind was totally blown when he heard that news.
I think he even borrowed money from her.....remember the 'slip of the chip'
at the table........??
He may have 'lured' her to his room telling her he would pay her back once they went there.
I think Joran had absolutely NO TROUBLE picking up girls.....he was a charmer and knew just how to turn it on. Sociopaths are like that....they will tell you what they think you want to hear....then they strike just like the 'snake' he claims to be....but wants to be a 'lion'......well News Flash Joran.....you are a Lying lion for sure.
I think I'm calling it a night......so I'll say good night to everyone here.
I'll see you all tomorrow, same time, same station.
JUSICE WILL BE COMING FOR BOTH YOU AND FOR NATALEE
She was found with her knees bent upward towards her chest.
IMO she was attacked from behind with her face (red chin), chest, red knees towards the carpet/floor.
That's why I ask if the handcuffs on the property table were Joran's or LE's.