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    Question VA - Appomattox River - Body in submerged car, June 2010

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    "Police can't even determine the age or gender of the person, as the body has severely decomposed."
    "They have been there all day"...."intense investigation".....
    I haven;t figured out if it is the media presentation that makes LE appear so inept or if that is really the way they are. Maybe if they run a vin number they can make some connection?
    ETA I understand the body not being identifiable as to gender, but not some of their 'investigation. I am just a but put off by the media. They are like starving sharks after fresh meat.
    I hope the family does not have to wait long in this case.
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    Who is missing from that area??
    My Beautiful Precious , I miss you so much!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoppyH View Post
    Who is missing from that area??
    Joan Renee Cook
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/cook_joan_r.html
    Salem is approx 8 miles from Chesterfield.

    Letisha (Tish) Faust
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/faust_letisha.html
    Floyd VA is approx 36 miles from Chesterfield, and she was apparently on the road when she disappeared.

    ETA:
    Two more from Roanoke (About 5 miles from Chesterfield):

    Renita Thompson
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...on_renita.html

    Suzanne Marie Ryan Patsel
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...l_suzanne.html
    She was last seen in Roanoke carrying a water bottle, and was apparently supposed to meet someone at the Valley View Mall in Roanoke. Nothing to indicate that she would be in a vehicle outside of Roanoke.
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    Body Found In Submerged Car In Appomattox River

    Chesterfield Police are investigating after a decomposed body is found inside a car at the bottom of the Appomattox River.

    Police are trying to figure out how that car, containing an unidentified body, came to be at the bottom of the river. Investigators were on scene most of Saturday. They initially thought it was just an abandoned car, but when a dive team broke open a window they discovered human remains.

    Body Found in Submerged Vehicle in Appomattox River
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    "Police can't even determine the age or gender of the person, as the body has severely decomposed."

    "They have been there all day"...."intense investigation".....

    I haven't figured out if it is the media presentation that makes LE appear so inept or if that is really the way they are. Maybe if they run a vin number they can make some connection?

    ETA I understand the body not being identifiable as to gender, but not some of their 'investigation. I am just a but put off by the media. They are like starving sharks after fresh meat.

    I hope the family does not have to wait long in this case.
    In fairness, the cops at the scene probably can't identify much and possibly no ME has taken a look at it yet. That may or may not be too smart though. Investigation probably just means recording rather than actually figuring stuff out, I would hope.

    They've also not said what make/model/year of car it is - which would be a very good way of getting an older body identified, if someone were known to have vanished with that vehicle. If someone recently vanished driving, say, a red 2008 Mazda CX7, it would be akin to identifying that person before family could be notified. It makes me think that the body may be fairly recent or we might have heard more.

    Saying that it could take weeks to make an ID may also be a way of getting the media away from the story until it can be wrapped up.

    Basically what I'm saying is that media could solve this for the police if they want that - and if they don't, they're either missing a trick or they want to preserve a family's privacy (and already have a good idea as to which family).
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    I was trying to get a good location of where on the river it was found, anyone know ?
    This article says near I 95:
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    Police Lt. Eric Hartman says the vehicle was discovered by a fisherman Saturday near Interstate 95.

    http://www.newsplex.com/news/headlines/97265869.html
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    SNIPPED........................................... .......

    The man who spotted the car tells us the vehicle appeared to be a red, newer model 2-door Hatchback and did not look as if it had been under water for long

    http://www.cbs6everywhere.com/wap/ne...tle=Local+News
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    SNIPPED........................................... ........

    Police tell CBS 6 that a decomposing body was found in the red vehicle at the bottom of the river near Interstate 95 and the Martin Luther King, Jr. Bridge. Police can't even determine the age or gender of the person, as the body has severely decomposed

    http://www.cbs6everywhere.com/wap/ne...tle=Local+News
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Joan Renee Cook
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/cook_joan_r.html
    Salem is approx 8 miles from Chesterfield.

    Letisha (Tish) Faust
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/faust_letisha.html
    Floyd VA is approx 36 miles from Chesterfield, and she was apparently on the road when she disappeared.

    ETA:
    Two more from Roanoke (About 5 miles from Chesterfield):

    Renita Thompson
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...on_renita.html

    Suzanne Marie Ryan Patsel
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...l_suzanne.html
    She was last seen in Roanoke carrying a water bottle, and was apparently supposed to meet someone at the Valley View Mall in Roanoke. Nothing to indicate that she would be in a vehicle outside of Roanoke.
    I was curious and googled Chesterfield, VA and there is in fact a little town very close to Roanoke by that name!

    But in this case I think they mean Chesterfield County (outside of Richmond) which is about 160 miles from Roanoke/Salem and 200 miles from Floyd.


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    The Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Bridge carries Jefferson Davis Highway (U.S. Route 1 and U.S. Route 301) across the Appomattox River at the fall line. It joins Colonial Heights and Petersburg, Virginia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...emorial_Bridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysticrose View Post
    The Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Bridge carries Jefferson Davis Highway (U.S. Route 1 and U.S. Route 301) across the Appomattox River at the fall line. It joins Colonial Heights and Petersburg, Virginia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...emorial_Bridge
    After I posted, I was a bit concerned that this might be the case.

    I came up with 25 MP's from VA in the last two years.


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    I can't actually find a place where the Appomattox flows through Chesterfield.

    I agree though that it has to be the Chesterfield near Richmond, not Roanoke. Google will only find the other one for me, possibly because I've been to Roanoke and done a few searches for nearby locations there before.

    There is a British student, Jonny Dorey, missing from Richmond since March, but I think he's an unlikely match because:

    1. Why waste a perfectly good hatchback to dispose of his body;
    2. His last cell phone ping was 50 miles in a different direction from his home in Richmond.

    There is also a woman called Jill Edmonds, missing from Richmond since January 25. Her vehicle has been recovered, though she has not, making this an unlikely match.


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    Here are all listed MP's from within 100 miles of Petersburg and missing within the last two years.

    Sean McCracken (Hampton - About 90 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...cken_sean.html

    Carla Rodriguez (Stafford - About 90 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...uez_carla.html

    Elisha Bell (Newport News - About 90 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bell_elesha.html

    Latonya Smith (Portsmouth - About 80 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...h_latonia.html

    Mark Michaux (Cartersville - About 60 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/michaux_mark.html

    Aaron Stevens (Chesapeake - About 80 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ens_aaron.html

    Octavian Holcomb (Chesapeake - About 80 miles from Petersburg)
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._octavian.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymro View Post
    In fairness, the cops at the scene probably can't identify much and possibly no ME has taken a look at it yet. That may or may not be too smart though. Investigation probably just means recording rather than actually figuring stuff out, I would hope.

    They've also not said what make/model/year of car it is - which would be a very good way of getting an older body identified, if someone were known to have vanished with that vehicle. If someone recently vanished driving, say, a red 2008 Mazda CX7, it would be akin to identifying that person before family could be notified. It makes me think that the body may be fairly recent or we might have heard more.

    Saying that it could take weeks to make an ID may also be a way of getting the media away from the story until it can be wrapped up.

    Basically what I'm saying is that media could solve this for the police if they want that - and if they don't, they're either missing a trick or they want to preserve a family's privacy (and already have a good idea as to which family).
    Thanks Cymro. I understand the ID aspect. Just venting on the other and now have a clearer perspective after reading your post. How ever they come to their conclusion, I just hope it is soon. I was just imagining someone in the area wondering if it was a family member. The wait must be terrible.

    Thanks Carl for posting the possibles.


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