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    2010.07.09 - Evidence List for Inspection

    I thought is would be interesting to start a thread on this issue.

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...-casey-anthony

    When is the defense every going to stop playing these games. It makes for interesting public consumption, but really, this is unbelievable!

    What will Judge Perry Jr.'s reaction going to be? "Keep in mind"...he almost lost his patience at the last hearing. I think that there is going to be some serious scolding coming.

    "Keep in mind"... that there are so many issues that are going to be raised at the July 15th hearing plus the AL quitting, CM taking on another high profile case, this goofy "link" to a property list. What next?
    Last edited by Jomo; 07-09-2010 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Repaired Link
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    Your link doesn't work for me but I assume you are talking about the way that JB is trying to get around the Sunshine Law by sending the list to the judge and not the clerk's office. I can't decide whether I think he's playing the "my client is above the law" card again or if he seriously doesn't know the proper way to file court documents. Either way it's ridiculous. In this case, I don't see why it even matters to him if the list is made public but I've given up trying to figure out his strange reasoning. I can't wait until the 15th!

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    It isn't even clear to me IF the defense submitted a list in the form that was outlined in the order.

    Has anyone seen the order?

    I don't think the Judge wants to sort through property forms that are not categorized and difficult to read as scanned copies. What "link" other than poor quality forms would they have sent to the Judge?

    I guess the media will clarify it for us...(thanks to the very hard working reporters out there!).
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    This sounds like the State agrees that the Defense did what they are supposed to do about the list of evidence.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,2877534.story

    excerpt:
    The notice of compliance was filed shortly before 11:30 a.m. It was filed by attorneys J. Cheney Mason and Jose Baez.
    The notice says the defense team met with prosecutors Monday and went through evidence property forms submitted by the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The defense selected all items it wishes to inspect," the document states.
    The documents requested are not public records, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office said Thursday.
    The prosecution and defense kept copies of the list of evidence to be inspected and "the defense is also providing a copy to this honorable court forthwith," the notice says.

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    They submitted at 11:30am?? Good grief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkTank View Post
    This sounds like the State agrees that the Defense did what they are supposed to do about the list of evidence.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,2877534.story

    excerpt:
    The notice of compliance was filed shortly before 11:30 a.m. It was filed by attorneys J. Cheney Mason and Jose Baez.
    The notice says the defense team met with prosecutors Monday and went through evidence property forms submitted by the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The defense selected all items it wishes to inspect," the document states.
    The documents requested are not public records, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office said Thursday.
    The prosecution and defense kept copies of the list of evidence to be inspected and "the defense is also providing a copy to this honorable court forthwith," the notice says.
    Highlighted in RED by me.

    I wonder what they have requested that we have not seen yet. And why has that evidence not been released?

    Interesting! Thanks TT!
    Last edited by Jomo; 07-09-2010 at 04:38 PM. Reason: ADD clarification about bolded section
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomo View Post
    Highlighted in RED by me.

    I wonder what they have requested that we have not seen yet. And why has that evidence not been released?

    Interesting! Thanks TT!
    As I understand it, the defense does not have to release or let us know what evidence they are interested in...because this would help us to figure out what their arguments may be. It could reveal their case. I'm just confused as to why the prosecutors get to know what evidence they are interested in

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    Quote Originally Posted by manatee View Post
    As I understand it, the defense does not have to release or let us know what evidence they are interested in...because this would help us to figure out what their arguments may be. It could reveal their case. I'm just confused as to why the prosecutors get to know what evidence they are interested in
    The prosecution has a right to know apparently. But it would seem the defense doesn't want the public to know, not because it matters to the case if they reveal their strategy to the general public, but perhaps because it might matter to them if the public saw how flimsy it is. Like we already haven't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomo View Post
    I thought is would be interesting to start a thread on this issue.

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/ent...-casey-anthony

    When is the defense every going to stop playing these games. It makes for interesting public consumption, but really, this is unbelievable!

    What will Judge Perry Jr.'s reaction going to be? "Keep in mind"...he almost lost his patience at the last hearing. I think that there is going to be some serious scolding coming.

    "Keep in mind"... that there are so many issues that are going to be raised at the July 15th hearing plus the AL quitting, CM taking on another high profile case, this goofy "link" to a property list. What next?
    I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagull65 View Post
    I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.
    There are more tips than the ones we've already seen?

    Yup...it's about time the defense did something...though I do think the wait was because they needed to find some experts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkTank View Post
    This sounds like the State agrees that the Defense did what they are supposed to do about the list of evidence.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,2877534.story

    excerpt:
    The notice of compliance was filed shortly before 11:30 a.m. It was filed by attorneys J. Cheney Mason and Jose Baez.
    The notice says the defense team met with prosecutors Monday and went through evidence property forms submitted by the Orange County Sheriff's Office. "The defense selected all items it wishes to inspect," the document states.
    The documents requested are not public records, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office said Thursday.
    The prosecution and defense kept copies of the list of evidence to be inspected and "the defense is also providing a copy to this honorable court forthwith," the notice says.
    Somebody better notify the media 'cause they're all thinking the judge may release the info when he gets back from vacation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Finklestein View Post
    They submitted at 11:30am?? Good grief.
    That's early! I was expecting ten to five on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagull65 View Post
    I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.
    Can you please enlighten me to the "games the defense has been and is being subjected to"? I'm unaware of the SAs playing any games. As far as I know the SAs have done exactly what they have been ordered to do and on time. The tips were available way back then, the defense didn't want to pay the proper costs for them (if I recall correctly). The defense also didn't want to comply with the judges ruling on the searchers records. So how is that the fault of the SAs? How is that a game that the SAs are playing? Sorry but this is very confusing to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seagull65 View Post
    I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.
    BBM

    this article was about tips?
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    "The documents requested are not public records, a spokesman for the State Attorney's Office said Thursday."

    I thought "tips" are subject to the sunshine laws, though I could be wrong.

    I remember in a hearing 1-2 months ago that Judge Perry gave Baez the authorization to use the State funds given to Casey to pay for the tips they had yet to go and pick up, that were ready many many many months ago.
    I sure hope he has done so since he was given the order to do so by Judge Perry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagull65 View Post
    I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.
    What GAMES are you talking about? Did I miss something? SA has said repeatedly, repeatedly to both HHJS and HHJP that the evidence is available for the defense to have their experts examine......defense has NEVER filed a listing of their expert witnesses or requested to view these items until now. Not when JB had all that money....not then, but now. Interesting to know how many EXPERTS they had to go through before they could get someone who would be willing to challenge the evidence collected by LE. I do not believe any of the prosecutors believe this is a game...not by the way JA presented the duct tape sceniero in court and not by the way LDB said she was protecting the rights of the victim. Those tips, they could have had them too when he had the money but did not pick them up. The depositions are another example of something that should have been done after the state released their's to the defense. TES records also, no excuse for their behavior. If they wanted the records they were suppose to put a sticky tab on them and the judge would review them. Did they tab any records? Of course not because there was nothing to tab. Attorney MN was telling the truth and they felt they were wasting their time so they left and tried to blame the media.

    If you ask me the only game player is the one who always has a grin on his face like he did something and got away with it. jmo

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