Resolved DE - Marydel - Female skull 433UFDE, 25-50, Sep'85 - Teaching Specimen

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The Doe Network:
Case File 433UFDE http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/433ufde.html
NamUs UP Case 6094 https://identifyus.org/cases/6094

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Reconstruction of Victim

Unidentified Asian Female

* The victim was discovered on September 21, 1985 in Marydel, Kent County, Delaware
* Skull Only

Vital Statistics

* Estimated age: 25-50 years old
* Dentals: Available

Case History
Skull and mandible found 20 west of country route 185, one mile north east of Marydel, Delaware. Because no other bones were found, authorities could not estimate height, weight or other physical characteristics. No cause of death could be determined.

Investigators
If you have any information about this case please contact:
Delaware Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Hal Brown
302-577-3420
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

Agency Case Number:
K85-325
 
I was reluctant to put this up because of the geography and overall lack of info on either the UID or the MP.

But their facial structures are nearly identical, even in comparison to other Asian females. The three year timeframe is not a problem.

Cheri Arakul
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arakul_cheri.html

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I hate to call in a possible with nothing more than a facial resemblance, but with this UID, we aren't going to be able to get much more than that.
 
CarlK90245 said:
I was reluctant to put this up because of the geography and overall lack of info on either the UID or the MP.

But their facial structures are nearly identical, even in comparison to other Asian females. The three year timeframe is not a problem.

Cheri Arakul
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arakul_cheri.html

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arakul_cheri.jpg


I hate to call in a possible with nothing more than a facial resemblance, but with this UID, we aren't going to be able to get much more than that.
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Hal Brown replied to my inquiry about these two cases as follows:

We also obtained the LAPD report on Cherie Arakul which was not very informative. LAPD said they didn't have fingerprints or dental but did obtain a DNA sample from her mother.

... Since we have DNA on both our cases, we will be looking to see if a link in
made in CODIS ...

... I do not know where in the queue the analysis currently is, but that DNA analysis on both the UP and MP is in progress!
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The UID and MP are in process for entry to CODIS.

We'll let CODIS figure it out.
 
This no-photo MP case for an Asian female was added recently to NamUs.

Susan Maria Ann Cerritelli (AKA "Chinese Sue")
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/11620/3

I was discussing a different case with Phillip Petty (i.e., Hal Brown's assistant), I mentioned to him that this case might be worth a look in comparison to the Marydel skull.

I forwarded him the links.

:eek:fftopic:
BTW, he also indicated that one of their cases, thought to be a female turned out to be a teenaged male. However, he wasn't able to tell me which case he was talking about. He says that he will get back to me on that.
 
Hi. I don't remember seeing this case before, but just now I read the current Doe Network updates and it says this case is closed per NamUs. Doesn't say why or how. Carl's possible match, Ms. Cerritelli, is still listed on NamUs so either it's not her or they just didn't take it off yet.
 
Carl can you find out if this UID has been id'd?

tia
 
CarlK90245 said:
Cubby said:
Carl can you find out if this UID has been id'd?

tia
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I sent Hal an e-mail last night to ask him.
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Hal told me that they determined that this skull was a teaching specimen.

They had found wires in the skull indicating that it had been used by one of the schools, probably a medical school in Baltimore.
 
CarlK90245 said:
Hal told me that they determined that this skull was a teaching specimen.

They had found wires in the skull indicating that it had been used by one of the schools, probably a medical school in Baltimore.
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Wow, I think that is a first here in the UID forum. I don't recall any cases determined to be teaching specimens. It's good to know this isn't someone missing and waiting to be id'd. Thanks for following up on this Carl.

ETA: Ok, I gotta admit. It amazes me it took more than 25 years to determine this skull was a teaching specimen. hmmmm
 
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