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    Boys allegedly tried to drown puppy before grilling

    Oldest charged in theft, cutting of a dog earlier

    SPRINGFIELD Two boys accused of fatally roasting a puppy on a barbecue grill first tried to drown the pet, but it survived, police say.

    Afterward, the boys, ages 14 and 11, put the puppy on an old gas grill and set it on fire using charcoal, according to police reports.

    The burning happened behind a boarded-up home on Carden Circle, part of Springfield's public housing facilities, on July 24.

    Neighbor Dregis Freeman, 10, came along, saw the burning under way and tried to help the puppy before it died. He said the other boys said they wanted to see what it tasted like.

    ''I saw them burning the dog,'' said Dregis, whose nickname is ''Li'l Dee.''

    ''I saw it, and I saw smoke. I went running back to tell. I was thinking it was mean.''

    In other developments, the 14-year-old is charged with stealing and cutting another dog just a few days earlier. Two other boys, ages 10 and 13, also are charged in that case. None had been in trouble with Springfield Police before now.

    The boys are believed to be two brothers, a cousin and a friend. Their names have not been released by police, citing their status as minors.

    Also, the father of one boy was arrested yesterday and charged with aggravated assault on a neighbor in a fight related to the group of children.

    While many adults are asking how any child could torture a puppy that way, they also are praising Dregis Freeman for trying to save the pet.

    Dregis went to an adult neighbor's house asking for a bucket of water and a towel to nurse the burning dog. The neighbor called 911 and later confirmed to police that Dregis wasn't involved in the cruelty.

    By the time Dregis and the neighbor returned, the puppy had crawled off the grill and made it a few feet away, barking and yelping. It died moments later.

    http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...nt_ID=55440748


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    This sickens me. That poor puppy. Where do these kids learn things like this?


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    Here is an example of a full blown sociopath... at age 14.

    Intervention, imho, is too late at this point.


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    future serial killers...where are these parents??? they are lucky i didn't catch them...no, I am lucky i didn't catch them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocket
    Here is an example of a full blown sociopath... at age 14.

    Intervention, imho, is too late at this point.
    I agree 100% I wouldn't normally say this about children, but these kids are little ba$tards that need to be severely punished!


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    My God, how could they?? don't they value life, even an animal's???
    This is outrageous ...
    Rest in Peace to my best buddy and baby, Buster ~ He crossed the Rainbow Bridge on Jan. 3, 2011. I miss you, Buster and love you with all my being.


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    I am blown away. Jeffrey Daumer move over...there is room beside you in hell for a coupla future killers...
    Just my opinion anyway... cheers!


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    Punishment doesn't help. (imho.) As an example, do you think punishing Ted Bundy would have helped?

    Intervention, is too late. They are full blown sociopaths at this point.

    There are people who think that these children can be saved, and that we should spend resources to try to turn them around. Imho, that's a waste of society's time and effort. They have already chosesn, their life's path. It is fixed.

    Society could best spend it resources, by changing the way we, as a society, let people raise children.

    The first seven years of a child's life are critical in forming personality, how the child sees the world, and their relationship to it.


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    I really wish i hadn't read this. I am so sickened by this story. Anyone who could do this to a helpless puppy is way beyond help child or not. Disgusting!
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    What bothers me is that "The neighbor called 911 and later confirmed to police that Dregis wasn't involved in the cruelty." The kid is doing the right thing, and ends up needing to prove he was doing the right thing. What it he had just taken it upon himself to try to save the dog, and someone found him with it? Would he have been accused of the crime?

    At least someone is raising their kids the right way.
    Just the facts, Ma'am.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocket
    Here is an example of a full blown sociopath... at age 14.

    Intervention, imho, is too late at this point.
    Maybe intervention is too late, but someone has to do something... if nothing else, then set an example with these kids by locking them up until they're 18 or whatever the age is.


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    Tough week for dogs

    It's been a horrible few weeks with animals - here's a local story about a DV that involved killing a puppy.
    http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/sit...ry/html/170223
    There is NO excuse for family violence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bookbakery
    Maybe intervention is too late, but someone has to do something... if nothing else, then set an example with these kids by locking them up until they're 18 or whatever the age is.
    I don't think they can lock them up for this. DeputyLinda may know. Now, this is the perfect opportunity for LE to watch these kids as I agree w/ Sprocket. Full blown sociopath showing their traits and it will escalate. Also notice the angry parent trying to protect and/or deny what others were saying about their kid. Here we go with the learned violence reaction.


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    Sick Sick Sick!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocket
    Punishment doesn't help. (imho.) Intervention, is too late. They are full blown sociopaths at this point.

    There are people who think that these children can be saved, and that we should spend resources to try to turn them around. Imho, that's a waste of society's time and effort. They have already chosesn, their life's path. It is fixed.
    Society could best spend it resources, by changing the way we, as a society, let people raise children.
    The first seven years of a child's life are critical in forming personality, how the child sees the world, and their relationship to it.
    Sprocket, what is it exactly that you think we are doing wrong, that results in this kind of behavior??
    Hearing about these things really scares me. It happens all too often.


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