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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Beach View Post
    I'm right there with ya, Chiquita. I am totally baffled by this.

    The email is dated 9/1/08. KC wasn't bailed out until 9/16/08. Did DC visit her prior to 9/1/08?

    I am trying to understand if this theory was planted by KC or CA.


    Seriously. Just when I think these people can't get any more disgusting, they manage to prove me wrong.
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    Thank you for that information. I remember in the jail visitation, Cindy spoke to Casey regarding seeing DC. IIRC, Cindy was encouraging Casey to speak to him. WS have speculated whether or not any such meeting occurred between Casey and DC: from my understanding because of the "daisy chain" theory. Which, is really starting to fill in as far as blanks are concerned. It gives me hope that the SA and LE have known all of this stuff for a while and it will all come out eventually(trial).

    With Casey writing the letters(the letters being a part of the undercover communications area of this scandal) and in them saying she was molested by George and the speculation if those letters were part of the defense, combined with the fact that Cindy(nor George)seemed very upset that Casey said such things...

    Could lend to the idea that this is/was part of a plan? Maybe a plan that George didn't know about? But, yet how could he not know about all of this? Even if Cindy was/is keeping him in the dark as she betrays him, some of this stuff has been on the internet, easily read by George.

    Maybe it is the daisy chain...it is something. There is some hidden dynamic at work here and has been at work since Cindy became involved. I just didn't and don't see Casey "admitting" in whatever limited way any knowledge of what really happened to Caylee(i.e. Casey killed her out of spite). But because of the feedback(daisy chain)of information(exact information re: molestation, sexual abuse), we have just seen in this doc dump, I have to entertain the idea more now that Casey did "tell" Cindy "what happened."

    Cindy's protests that she "didn't have time" to talk to Casey, or "just don't talk about it" about Caylee is peppered with statements like "I can get the truth from Casey I just need to look in her eyes" is typical Cindy double speak but I think while Casey was home and Cindy "was with her in the shower" they did have a little talk.

    By using "mistruths" Casey gave Cindy some info, then she may or may not have done the same for DC and JB. Each one was in contact with the other, each one with their own agendas and each with a little bit of "truthful" information from Casey.

    We got to hear Casey say "she's close to home" and that was probably a bit of a taste of what she was saying to Cindy, JB and DC. There was that lawyer of Casey's(that quit? was fired?)who stated it was an "accidental death" after the child was given something to go to sleep. (paraphrased)

    However, whatever: what I am feeling is this, that WS were very correct in saying that Cindy knew very early on(perhaps as soon as Casey was bailed out of jail the first time)where to find Caylee's remains.

    And, if that is true: then Cindy was actively stating that Caylee was alive and that LE was not doing their job and they were framing her innocent daughter. All the while, throwing innocent people under the bus going so far as to hire a PI who digs up dirt on these innocent people: including her own husband!

    TWA should copyright the phrase "you just can't make this stuff up." If Donald Trump can own the phrase "your fired!"...why not, right? LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Could someone chime in on their take on this particular email....

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    I think calling her dead was the best thing that every happended to poor Cay lee g my cell is dead -
    Ill be in the car in a half an hour g
    even if we cant go till Nov.
    - I dont seee them finding her for a while hha hha

    DATED: October 2008???? I don't see them finding her for a while????? What does that mean. Them who? Finding the body? Did these people all know in October that Caylee's body was dumped in those woods? I smell more than a rat.....I smell a set up by DC and company having Kronk find the body, and then throw him under the bus. I smell DC knowing that Caylee was dead by KC's admission to somebody....
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    Sent: Monday, November 03) 2008 6:39 PM
    To: Dominic D&A Investigations
    Subject: Teddy Bear on it's way to you
    Dominic - I sent the bear via UPS to your office address. Tracking #
    lZ0212VA0342904605. I wanted to enclose a little note to Cindy and Casey but did'nt get the chance. Please let them know how much we appreciate the trust they placed in us with this precious item. It DID help - even to make us more sure that Caylee is alive. There was no indication that something sinister had befallen Caylee. We are working on this continually and just cannot pinpoint her right now. She is in the area - I know it. Personally think Altamonte Springs/Maitland area. Caylee is being moved around still - Ginette feels trailer at some times and other times house with a basement. Near railroad tracks which narrows it down quite a bit. Woman she is with is pregnant - man wears tinted glasses (I know - this could be anything). I've sent Ginette some overheads of three addresses that I need her to look
    at - will let you know if anything comes of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    Aside from your bolded part, I am most offended by the "hha hha".
    For heaven's sake, this is a beautiful little girl that unusual woman is giggling about!
    Exactly! Hope any family desperate enough to think of calling her sees that first. Deplorable is all I can say and not get banned.



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    WHY did she say hha hha?? I don't get it. I don't get that whole exchange, it's so strange.
    Because maybe they all knew Caylee was under water and they thought it was funny watching the world look in every nook and cranny in Orlando? That would explain the "even if we cant go till Nov." part. IE - if the waters don't go down until Nov. Interesting who goes in Nov. Now I will hush!



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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Beach View Post
    I'm right there with ya, Chiquita. I am totally baffled by this.

    The email is dated 9/1/08. KC wasn't bailed out until 9/16/08. Did DC visit her prior to 9/1/08?

    I am trying to understand if this theory was planted by KC or CA.


    Seriously. Just when I think these people can't get any more disgusting, they manage to prove me wrong.
    Thanks again 'Beach

    Numbers take my brain a while. Wow, so DC was making the George allegation prior to Casey being bailed out for the first time?! I have to digest that for a minute...

    What does that mean?

    In my previous post, I said that Cindy must have had a talk with Casey when she was out on bail...but now I see what you are saying that his email to Cindy was before she was bailed out...hummm. I guess maybe Cindy did get Casey to speak to DC?

    Would she have told him about sexual abuse, though? I wonder if that info came to DC by way of JB. I could see Casey telling JB just like she told JG. I think she likes to tell men in her life that story so as to cause them to feel "protective sympathy" from them. JMO.

    Part of the key for me is DC would not have come up with that on his own. Casey says that when she told Cindy "what happened" that Cindy called her a slut. What was Cindy's reaction to DC saying he believed that Casey was sexually molested by George?

    This, right here, is some key crazy stuff. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Could someone chime in on their take on this particular email....

    ginnylucas@netzero,com
    Thursday, October 16, 2008 11 :32 AM

    I think calling her dead was the best thing that every happended to poor Cay lee g my cell is dead -
    Ill be in the car in a half an hour g
    even if we cant go till Nov.
    - I dont seee them finding her for a while
    hha hha

    DATED: October 2008???? I don't see them finding her for a while????? What does that mean. Them who? Finding the body? Did these people all know in October that Caylee's body was dumped in those woods? I smell more than a rat.....I smell a set up by DC and company having Kronk find the body, and then throw him under the bus. I smell DC knowing that Caylee was dead by KC's admission to somebody....
    Holy Smoke!

    Calling her dead was the best thing that ever happened to poor Caylee.

    Are those "g"s supposed to be "grins"?

    even if we can't go until Nov.
    - I don't see them finding her for a while - hha hha


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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Beach View Post
    RBBM

    This is another one of those things that has me !!!

    Sent: Monday, November 03) 2008 6:39 PM
    To: Dominic D&A Investigations
    Subject: Teddy Bear on it's way to you
    Dominic - I sent the bear via UPS to your office address. Tracking #
    lZ0212VA0342904605. I wanted to enclose a little note to Cindy and Casey but did'nt get the chance. Please let them know how much we appreciate the trust they placed in us with this precious item. It DID help - even to make us more sure that Caylee is alive. There was no indication that something sinister had befallen Caylee. We are working on this continually and just cannot pinpoint her right now. She is in the area - I know it. Personally think Altamonte Springs/Maitland area. Caylee is being moved around still - Ginette feels trailer at some times and other times house with a basement. Near railroad tracks which narrows it down quite a bit. Woman she is with is pregnant - man wears tinted glasses (I know - this could be anything). I've sent Ginette some overheads of three addresses that I need her to look
    at - will let you know if anything comes of it.
    Cheers!
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    OMG! This is dated November! WTH were they doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_News_Junkie View Post
    What if KC claims are the only truth in any of this? I know, we don't want to think of it and we can't give KC any benefit of the doubt in telling the truth, but what if cindy in one of her excited utterances told DC about a family secret?
    At least worth pondering given how early this comes into play. JMHO, etc.....
    I know exactly what you are saying. I have considered it more in the past 24 hours than I EVER have before.

    I still have an easier time believing that GA is just expendable no matter what the cost. To everyone - CA, KC and LA. GA stuck his neck out too many times ("mark an 'X' on the map", literally shaking KC to fess up at one point, talking to LE & the FBI, etc...) that if this was really true, I think he would have hesitated knowing KC held all the aces. I think GA would have been scared to death knowing KC would play all of her cards and expose him. If the sexual allegations were really true, I think GA's 'suicide attempt' would not have been so lame. I think he would have made sure it was successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiquita71 View Post
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    Thank you for that information. I remember in the jail visitation, Cindy spoke to Casey regarding seeing DC. IIRC, Cindy was encouraging Casey to speak to him. WS have speculated whether or not any such meeting occurred between Casey and DC: from my understanding because of the "daisy chain" theory. Which, is really starting to fill in as far as blanks are concerned. It gives me hope that the SA and LE have known all of this stuff for a while and it will all come out eventually(trial).

    <snipped to address>

    ...js...
    DC: As of effective October the 12th is the last conversation, or whatever, that I've ever had with Casey Anthony. I've not provided any services from that day forward.

    JA: Okay.

    DC: And exclusively from that date of only being providing services to George and Cindy Anthony..

    JA: Alright.

    DC: Jose Baez went ahead and, and blocked any contact.

    p. 38

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4380098/...rview-01072009

    I could ~swear~ I read where he visited once in the jail, and remarked that they didn't talk about anything pertaining to the case. But I can't find anything to back that up.
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    I really do not want to dive back into those emails to find the exact wording and when it was sent, etc but did anyone else notice that not only did Luke and "his people" come up with the dead "hooker and/or stripper" that worked at Fusion they also know of another body (this one male) that was behind Johnson's that could have possibly been put in Casey's car while it was in the impound lot? And Luke had to wonder why he was fired from his job. THIS and all of the other speculations or "dreams" that those people had are just one of the reasons why some people think that people like Ginny are frauds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiquita71 View Post
    Thanks again 'Beach

    Numbers take my brain a while. Wow, so DC was making the George allegation prior to Casey being bailed out for the first time?! I have to digest that for a minute...

    What does that mean?

    In my previous post, I said that Cindy must have had a talk with Casey when she was out on bail...but now I see what you are saying that his email to Cindy was before she was bailed out...hummm. I guess maybe Cindy did get Casey to speak to DC?

    Would she have told him about sexual abuse, though? I wonder if that info came to DC by way of JB. I could see Casey telling JB just like she told JG. I think she likes to tell men in her life that story so as to cause them to feel "protective sympathy" from them. JMO.

    Part of the key for me is DC would not have come up with that on his own. Casey says that when she told Cindy "what happened" that Cindy called her a slut. What was Cindy's reaction to DC saying he believed that Casey was sexually molested by George?

    This, right here, is some key crazy stuff. Wow.

    ...js...
    I'm using ANJ's Daisy Chain doc right here. ( ANJ!)

    That is where my timeline is coming from. I am assuming that was her first arrest. My mind is jumbled from all this carp.
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    I'm diving into DC's inteview with JA in Jan 09 to find out what other lies he's told! Anyone else want to help? There are 10 parts!! God help me and anyone else who wants to join me on this journey into the liar"s den!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanny View Post
    We NOW know what DCasey and his psycho psychic were up to with all the emails that have just been made public. Making up stories about any and all who came into their target 'sights'..... How disgusting to read these emails....I was sickened when I read them......and just had to stop, collect my brain and try to go on.

    Here's my question...... Can Dominic Casey be held accountable with what he did??? or will he just slip on by with no repercussions at all.
    I personally would like to see his wanna be PI license revoked forever. Wishing won't make that so......but boy would I love that to happen.

    Just think......we still have many months to go before trial. I wonder what more will be made public.
    Makes me wonder just how long LE has had these emails and where they got them from. Could they have gotten them from Dominic when they took his investigative interview? If so, this is just the tip of the iceberg of things to come. Can't wait to read that interview!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiquita71 View Post
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    Thank you for that information. I remember in the jail visitation, Cindy spoke to Casey regarding seeing DC. IIRC, Cindy was encouraging Casey to speak to him. WS have speculated whether or not any such meeting occurred between Casey and DC: from my understanding because of the "daisy chain" theory. Which, is really starting to fill in as far as blanks are concerned. It gives me hope that the SA and LE have known all of this stuff for a while and it will all come out eventually(trial).

    With Casey writing the letters(the letters being a part of the undercover communications area of this scandal) and in them saying she was molested by George and the speculation if those letters were part of the defense, combined with the fact that Cindy(nor George)seemed very upset that Casey said such things...

    Could lend to the idea that this is/was part of a plan? Maybe a plan that George didn't know about? But, yet how could he not know about all of this? Even if Cindy was/is keeping him in the dark as she betrays him, some of this stuff has been on the internet, easily read by George.

    Maybe it is the daisy chain...it is something. There is some hidden dynamic at work here and has been at work since Cindy became involved. I just didn't and don't see Casey "admitting" in whatever limited way any knowledge of what really happened to Caylee(i.e. Casey killed her out of spite). But because of the feedback(daisy chain)of information(exact information re: molestation, sexual abuse), we have just seen in this doc dump, I have to entertain the idea more now that Casey did "tell" Cindy "what happened."

    Cindy's protests that she "didn't have time" to talk to Casey, or "just don't talk about it" about Caylee is peppered with statements like "I can get the truth from Casey I just need to look in her eyes" is typical Cindy double speak but I think while Casey was home and Cindy "was with her in the shower" they did have a little talk.

    By using "mistruths" Casey gave Cindy some info, then she may or may not have done the same for DC and JB. Each one was in contact with the other, each one with their own agendas and each with a little bit of "truthful" information from Casey.

    We got to hear Casey say "she's close to home" and that was probably a bit of a taste of what she was saying to Cindy, JB and DC. There was that lawyer of Casey's(that quit? was fired?)who stated it was an "accidental death" after the child was given something to go to sleep. (paraphrased)

    However, whatever: what I am feeling is this, that WS were very correct in saying that Cindy knew very early on(perhaps as soon as Casey was bailed out of jail the first time)where to find Caylee's remains.

    And, if that is true: then Cindy was actively stating that Caylee was alive and that LE was not doing their job and they were framing her innocent daughter. All the while, throwing innocent people under the bus going so far as to hire a PI who digs up dirt on these innocent people: including her own husband!

    TWA should copyright the phrase "you just can't make this stuff up." If Donald Trump can own the phrase "your fired!"...why not, right? LOL.

    ...js...
    I believe that has been the dynamic for a looooong time between Cindy and Casey. George was the bad cop.. and Cindy was the good cop who lost her temper and then sucked up to KC after she had blown off steam. I believe from what we have seen in the jailhouse videos where Cindy was "devastated" and was searching desperately for Caylee, Cindy STILL gave KC an "out" when questioning her who's apartment had the drum set. I firmly believe that when KC was home from jail.. she sat in the shower with KC and had the same exact type of discussion. She asks KC a hard question and then waits for KC to come up with some piece of fluff and then Cindy "firms it up" by leading KC to the answer that makes most sense to Cindy.

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    DC: As of effective October the 12th is the last conversation, or whatever, that I've ever had with Casey Anthony. I've not provided any services from that day forward.

    JA: Okay.

    DC: And exclusively from that date of only being providing services to George and Cindy Anthony..

    JA: Alright.

    DC: Jose Baez went ahead and, and blocked any contact.

    p. 38

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4380098/...rview-01072009

    I could ~swear~ I read where he visited once in the jail, and remarked that they didn't talk about anything pertaining to the case. But I can't find anything to back that up.
    He did 08/08/08 I think I confirmed that off the jail visitor logs - do you want me to log into my desktop and get a link?



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