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    kyron's vanishing is termed by Le, an "isolated case" ~~revisited

    My number one hangup (and reason for starting this thread) is that LE, from pretty much go said that parents need not worry as this was an isolated case. This tells me that they had to have some sort of info from early on in the case. They have never said anything other than this to lead us to believe that other children are at immediate risk in the area.

    What does "isolated case" mean to you?

    Where are you at in your reasoning of what may have happened under this umbrella of 'isolated case'?

    Isolated because of the location it happened (semi closed circuit like a school)

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    Isolated because it ropes back to the person who was last seen with him (terri moulton horman)?


    Authorities said they believe Kyron's disappearance is an isolated case and addressed parental concerns over safety by urging them to keep their same routines. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...arance_be.html
    Authorities said they believe Kyron's disappearance is an isolated case and addressed parental concerns over safety by urging them to keep their same routines.

    Parents should educate their children about safety and "stranger danger," said Capt. Jason Gates with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but he noted that investigators have no evidence of a crime committed in Kyron's case. http://www.istockanalyst.com/article...icleid/4192746

    olice have not discussed a polygraph test or its results, and have not described Terri Horman as a suspect or person of interest in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron, who went missing more than two weeks ago.

    However, when authorities called off major search operations and announced that they did not believe anyone else in the Oregon community was in danger http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyron-horm...ry?id=10964865
    there are more... these are just a few

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    kidnapping is isolated case (MOO)
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    Veering off topic, but why do we warn kids to stay away from strangers when most of the time it's relatives/clergy/coaches/teachers/scout leaders/etc they need to be afraid of?

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    Well it is isolated so far...it has not happened again.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    I have said it before, and I will say it again...

    I would be surprised if we don't start hearing from parents at Skyline. If the police tell me my child's school is safe and an "isolated incidence" then I expect an arrest/acknowledgement of the POI/suspect.

    IMO the longer the LE wait to name their suspect/poi (read TH) the harder it is going to be for parents of Skyline to believe it was an 'isolated incidence'...which IMO puts a lot of pressure on the school district and LE to get things down quickly.
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    If the first most parents are hearing about an adult in the truck and a possible man in the school is now, when we are hearing it, I would be concerned, if I had children in that or another nearby school. They may be having a press conference to try to put any new fears to rest again. But I think they really, really need a resolution or at least charges, before those doors open again.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Yes, they said they believed it was an isolated case, but also said they couldn't rule out a stranger.

    IOW, they have no freakin' clue. They don't want public panic.

    And even in stranger abductions, when was the last time you heard of one where a child was kidnapped and then that suspect kidnapped another child in proximity (of time and place)?

    So to me, an "isolated incident" only means that they don't think a spree killer is on the loose grabbing kids from public places.

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    I posted about this in the MMC thread. I think now that the email has come out with TH insinuating some strange man came into the school posing as a chaperone at the same time Kyron went missing, LE and/or Skyline NEED to address this ASAP. LE claims the community has nothing to worry about and Skyline seems to be glossing over the fact a child went missing from inside their school. There needs to start being some explanations about why LE is so sure this is "isolated"
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelmom View Post
    Yes, they said they believed it was an isolated case, but also said they couldn't rule out a stranger.

    IOW, they have no freakin' clue. They don't want public panic.

    And even in stranger abductions, when was the last time you heard of one where a child was kidnapped and then that suspect kidnapped another child in proximity (of time and place)?

    So to me, an "isolated incident" only means that they don't think a spree killer is on the loose grabbing kids from public places.
    BBM --

    True, but I think the parents and community deserve to know if a stranger came into Skyline and left unnoticed with one of the students. Chaotic day or not, it's their duty to notify the parents and community.

    One of our members, lukne, says they have kids who go to Skyline. lukne refers to this as a "family tragedy" from the information they've been given. I'd be furious if my kids went there and I've been led to believe TH did this, only to find out it was indeed a strange man in the school that day allowed to leave with this child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    I posted about this in the MMC thread. I think now that the email has come out with TH insinuating some strange man came into the school posing as a chaperone at the same time Kyron went missing, LE and/or Skyline NEED to address this ASAP. LE claims the community has nothing to worry about and Skyline seems to be glossing over the fact a child went missing from inside their school. There needs to start being some explanations about why LE is so sure this is "isolated"
    I think you make an excellent point. Now that TH's own email has been released to the public indicating an unauthorized male chaperone, LE will HAVE to address this point as to why there never any warning or question about this mysterious person. IOW, I believe that will be addressed tomorrow. My guess anyway is that they will HAVE to say to all the parents (if they haven't already) disregard TH's email as it is just so much BS and here's why.


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    The community there does not seem to be in a panic. I have a feeling that while there is a lot of concern for Kyron, there is not a lot for the safety of the kids there in general. I bet also that Skyline will be announcing tighter security measures (or already has) to the parents of the students.
    I don't think LE needs to announce anything, at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    BBM --

    True, but I think the parents and community deserve to know if a stranger came into Skyline and left unnoticed with one of the students. Chaotic day or not, it's their duty to notify the parents and community.

    One of our members, lukne, says they have kids who go to Skyline. lukne refers to this as a "family tragedy" from the information they've been given. I'd be furious if my kids went there and I've been led to believe TH did this, only to find out it was indeed a strange man in the school that day allowed to leave with this child.
    To play devil's advocate (which might if TH is guilty be an apt description-but alas I digress).

    As a parent would you feel hinky (to borrow a word) , or , or if you were told that this woman who was at the school (for more than drop-offs and pickups) and had contact with your child on an almost daily bases was then accused of hurting HER step-child? That the school allowed a woman like that to be around your child...

    does that make sense? It does in my head...but
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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    My number one hangup (and reason for starting this thread) is that LE, from pretty much go said that parents need not worry as this was an isolated case. This tells me that they had to have some sort of info from early on in the case. They have never said anything other than this to lead us to believe that other children are at immediate risk in the area.

    What does "isolated case" mean to you?

    Where are you at in your reasoning of what may have happened under this umbrella of 'isolated case'?

    Isolated because of the location it happened (semi closed circuit like a school)

    or

    Isolated because it ropes back to the person who was last seen with him (terri moulton horman)?



    there are more... these are just a few
    BBM: In a recent Canadian Abduction, Victoria Stafford was seen walking away from her school with a female who lured her (the woman looked ALOT like Victoria's mother). This was filmed on video. LE did not issue an amber alert, they took 2 weeks to even call it an abduction, and stated that it was an isolated incident.

    When LE released the sketch of the woman, as composed via witnesses, public opinion by the vast number of people on the Family's Facebook Group (100,000 people), was that the sketch looked ALOT like the mother. It also looked ALOT like Victoria's mother's friend.

    The video itself was released a couple of days after Victoria went missing. The sketch was released a few weeks after Victoria went missing. Victoria's mother, family and LE held numerous press conferences, almost every day.

    2 People, a male and a female, were arrested 6 weeks after Victoria's Abduction. They were not related to Victoria.

    Victoria Stafford's remains were found almost 2 months after the arrest of the 2 accused.

    There is still some public speculation that the mother is involved in the disappearance of her daughter (NOT by myself). Simply because SO many people were CONVINCED it was the mother who took her (or had her taken).

    I will wait and see what happens tomorrow in Kyron's case. LE has known of the information on the 2nd Adult sighting in the truck since the beginning of the case, IMO.

    I will NOT forget what happened in Victoria's case.

    While LE specifically releases certain information at certain times, in the order they see fit, we can't possibly begin to really understand (without knowing the finer details).

    Where is Kyron???
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    Quote Originally Posted by goatman View Post
    I have said it before, and I will say it again...

    I would be surprised if we don't start hearing from parents at Skyline. If the police tell me my child's school is safe and an "isolated incidence" then I expect an arrest/acknowledgement of the POI/suspect.

    IMO the longer the LE wait to name their suspect/poi (read TH) the harder it is going to be for parents of Skyline to believe it was an 'isolated incidence'...which IMO puts a lot of pressure on the school district and LE to get things down quickly.
    My sentiments, exactly, and I posted about this previously. If I were a Skyline parent, my concern for my child/children's safety would be weighing heavily on my mind right about now. School starts in about a month, and I'd like to believe that LE is absolutely certain that there isn't a child predator out there when classes resume. The enhanced security measures that the school will enforce is a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure that's enough under these puzzling circumstances. jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes View Post
    My sentiments, exactly, and I posted about this previously. If I were a Skyline parent, my concern for my child/children's safety would be weighing heavily on my mind right about now. School starts in about a month, and I'd like to believe that LE is absolutely certain that there isn't a child predator out there when classes resume. The enhanced security measures that the school will enforce is a step in the right direction, but I'm not sure that's enough under these puzzling circumstances. jmo
    It IS possible that all the school parents, teachers, etc., have been reassured already by LE and told to be quiet
    about it. That may be exactly why we haven't heard much from any of them.

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