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    Quote Originally Posted by Softail View Post
    The whole mistrial thing is stupid. IMO Doesn't mean she would be free, so I don't get why they would want that. Just delaying the inevitable.
    I completely agree..... so maybe ICA was thinking acquittal but, in all her exuberance at being set free, wrote mistrial. A mistrial does her no good at all, except, as you say, to delay the inevitable. She'd still be in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalSleuth View Post
    I hope you all are wrong. The whole reason the SA filed that motion in limine was so that would not happen. If JP grants the motion in limine and they bring it in anyway, if true, that it's so prejudicial that the bell can't be unrung, there will be a mistrial. Then everything, from jury selection onward will have to be redone--if they have the money. Let's hope and pray this isn't part of their strategy!
    Respectfully BBM

    If the defense were brazen enough to do this, they should be thrown in jail, right along side ICA. There is no excuse for that kind of defiance and it should be severely punished!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaz View Post
    I completely agree..... so maybe ICA was thinking acquittal but, in all her exuberance at being set free, wrote mistrial. A mistrial does her no good at all, except, as you say, to delay the inevitable. She'd still be in jail.
    OT- but I saw your post on the Lawyer thread as to why the duct tape was still adhering to scalp hair after all that time....
    I'm no Lawyer nor Scientist but I can tell you that hair is all but indestructible, it takes a strong chemical like Mr PlumR to unblock my bathroom drains when they get plugged up with the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfmarsGirl View Post
    Now,I think they are going to blame the sexual abuse on Lee! They might even say he took the baby.

    Or, they can say KC left Caylee in GA's hands on the 16th. She thought the baby was safe with Grandpa, so she partied.

    Only later did she discover that Caylee was missing when she talked to CA.

    Ok, I get it now - both male family members molested her, but she was deathly afraid of Lee.

    Remember the tears she shed when she saw CA? I think she was thinking about the terrible thing she was getting ready to put her mother through (blaming her son and husband). No, let me rephrase that: KC was thinking that the jury would be remembering the crocodile tears she shed when she saw CA and that the jury would think she must have been thinking about the terrible thing...

    But, it must be Lee and not GA because she already knows Mommy hates Daddy, right? We already saw how 'frushtrated' KC was at Lee during the hearing where Lee admitted he was going to share info she gave to him with the big, bad police department.

    Let me ask this though: Without KC testifying, how can they change the whole story KC gave initially? I mean, JB can't get up there and say, "here's the real story," without somehow having KC speak. Is that allowed?? Please tell me it is not!
    Nope.....now KC is asking for "someone else" to tell her story for her so she doesn't have to get up on the stand.

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    Has this ever happened before?
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    In the link above and here, http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27520527/detail.html, why does it list Home Depo vids on dates prior to June 15?

    Does anyone think that there is video of KC buying ingredients in order to make chloroform?

    Also there's Walmart video from July 23 - one date only. It seems there should be more videos from Walmart, according to someone's testimony
    stating they saw KC and Caylee at a Walmart on June 16 iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    In the link above and here, http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27520527/detail.html, why does it list Home Depo vids on dates prior to June 15?

    Does anyone think that there is video of KC buying ingredients in order to make chloroform?
    You know I thought it was kind of strange that CA was asked if she had any ammonia in her home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    You know I thought it was kind of strange that CA was asked if she had any ammonia in her home.
    Ammonia is formed when organic matter decomposes.
    Google told me that....

    ETA I bet CA had to think for a while "I wonder which is the right answer? Should I tell the truth or not?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    You know I thought it was kind of strange that CA was asked if she had any ammonia in her home.
    Maybe they have her on video for those dates because she was purchasing items to make "chloroform"? If they had been able to acquire the containers, they could have used the IPC codes to show where they were purchased?

    Oh, sorry woebegone....didn't see the last part of your post but, at least we are on the same wave length.
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    Yes Baznme, that's what I'm asking. I wonder if anyone knows more about the May visits to Home Depo. It may have been discussed before. I'm not sure. That would be the kind of video that would really solidify that KC had been using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep. I don't know how the DT would defend that evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    Yes Baznme, that's what I'm asking. I wonder if anyone knows more about the May visits to Home Depo. It may have been discussed before. I'm not sure. That would be the kind of video that would really solidify that KC had been using chloroform to put Caylee to sleep. I don't know how the DT would defend that evidence.
    It makes sense to me that is what they are looking at on those videos for those dates. I'm hoping anyway.

    I just did a search on "how to make chlorform at home" and this is what I found. In reading the instructions, I seem to be picking up little bits of familiar info like a white powder substance at the bottom of the container,...that's the chloroform and should be removed with a funnel....i.e., or a syringe? Very basic ingredients. I'm thinking also the site where the remains were found may have been where she was keeping her "lab" out of site and available for when she needed a fresh supply?

    Anyway, here's the link.

    http://www.howtodothings.com/health-...ake-chloroform
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    Nope.....now KC is asking for "someone else" to tell her story for her so she doesn't have to get up on the stand.

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    Has this ever happened before?
    I don't know if this has happened before in a trial.
    I do know that KC received a letter at the jail from someone on the outside (a woman I think) who wrote something like 'tell someone what happened before it's too late.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    I don't know if this has happened before in a trial.
    I do know that KC received a letter at the jail from someone on the outside (a woman I think) who wrote something like 'tell someone what happened before it's too late.'
    This is a curve ball then IF it's never happened before. I think, I don't know but I think that HHJP is going to hold the DT's feet to fire and adhere to the way it should be done. Just a guess on my part though.

    Any idea on who sent that note?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    You know I thought it was kind of strange that CA was asked if she had any ammonia in her home.
    Which alot of people do. Do you remember what CA's answer was?
    Did LE want to match the bottle to a possible May purchase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    This is a curve ball then IF it's never happened before. I think, I don't know but I think that HHJP is going to hold the DT's feet to fire and adhere to the way it should be done. Just a guess on my part though.

    Any idea on who sent that note?
    I hope I wrote it down. I'll look later tonight. No way I'm going through all of those jail house letters again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaz View Post
    I completely agree..... so maybe ICA was thinking acquittal but, in all her exuberance at being set free, wrote mistrial. A mistrial does her no good at all, except, as you say, to delay the inevitable. She'd still be in jail.
    IMO she thought a mistrail meant she would be free and there would not be another trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    In the link above and here, http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27520527/detail.html, why does it list Home Depo vids on dates prior to June 15?

    Does anyone think that there is video of KC buying ingredients in order to make chloroform?

    Also there's Walmart video from July 23 - one date only. It seems there should be more videos from Walmart, according to someone's testimony
    stating they saw KC and Caylee at a Walmart on June 16 iirc.
    Curious... I find some of this discovery Video curious

    Home Depot on May 23 and 29, 2008 (before Caylee went missing)

    WalMart July 23, 2008..??? Casey was in Jail

    2 videos from the Cheesecake Factory June 11 and 12, 2008
    Casey, Caylee and Tony went to the Cheesecake Factory at the Mall at Millenia on June 11, 2008

    July 5th, 2008 Video of Casey and Will at Ikea...okay, can't wait to see this one...IMO it will probably show how happy she was...Wonder if she was looking in the aisles for Zanny and Caylee...NOT.

    3 videos from JC Penny...purchases? she did go get her nails done at JC Penny

    SUNTRUST Video of Tony Lazzaro????? No date given.
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    The DT has a new idea. They want 'someone else' to tell KC's story (according to new motions submitted by DT...today's news thread)

    Anyone here on WS want to volunteer to give it a shot?

    Anyone? Anyone at all?
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    Is the Defense going to present their side during the SA's case? I don't see any defense coming forth. I think they will use their weapons then and later rest and save all these other excuses for the penalty phase.

    SP had no defense and basically that is what happened. Barely a whimper said by the defense in that case and they were smart not too say too much...and ruin your reputation on a defenseless matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    Which alot of people do. Do you remember what CA's answer was?
    Did LE want to match the bottle to a possible May purchase?
    CA said no, she did not have ammonia in her home. I don't either because if you accidently mix it with bleach it causes toxic fumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    CA said no, she did not have ammonia in her home. I don't either because if you accidently mix it with bleach it causes toxic fumes.
    Was it ammonia or acetone they asked CA about?
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    The DT has a new idea. They want 'someone else' to tell KC's story (according to new motions submitted by DT...today's news thread)

    Anyone here on WS want to volunteer to give it a shot?

    Anyone? Anyone at all?
    But, but but, I would have to be cross examined.
    Maybe they can hire Juliet Lewis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    Was it ammonia or acetone they asked CA about?
    Ammonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LancelotLink View Post
    But, but, but, I would have to be cross examined...
    I'd pay to see that!

    Seriously tho, I am sitting here scratching my head trying to visualize just how this would work. Does the DT plan to call witnesses to say that KC suffered abuse or trauma and that these people actually saw it?
    Last edited by Paintr; 04-19-2011 at 07:38 PM. Reason: forgot an 'a'
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    I just started to sing out loud an old song from the 70's.
    Billy Preston's " Nothing from nothing leaves nothing....."
    That about sums up the defense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    This is a curve ball then IF it's never happened before. I think, I don't know but I think that HHJP is going to hold the DT's feet to fire and adhere to the way it should be done. Just a guess on my part though.

    Any idea on who sent that note?
    Quote Originally Posted by Woe.be.gone View Post
    I hope I wrote it down. I'll look later tonight. No way I'm going through all of those jail house letters again!
    It's a miracle I found this note. You'd understand if you could see how unorganized my notes have become!

    I wrote in my notebook ~
    part 4 fox, pdf. 889, pg. 18747

    9/9/09 (I'm not sure if this is the doc. dump date or the date on the card.)

    (pdf. 895/18753) "Casey Girl . . .
    They are building a strong case against you.
    Can you handle this?
    Are you sure you shouldn't just tell them why?
    Dude. This is gonna be really tough on you.
    Keep your chin up!"
    - Christine Tuchek -

    pdf. 814/19757, 4/20/09
    "say something"
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    pdf. 825, 4/17/09
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