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    NY - Rosemary Hamilton Buck, 20, Syracuse, 11 Aug 1973

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 2446DFNY

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2446dfny.html

    Rosemary E. Hamilton Buck
    Missing since August 11, 1973 from Syracuse, Onondaga County, New York
    Classification: Missing



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    Vital Statistics
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2"; 110 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; hazel eyes.
    •Clothing: White coat; blue jeans.
    •AKA: Mary
    •Dentals: Not available. Her two front teeth crossed slightly.



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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Rosemary Buck was last seen hitchhiking near the corner of Sixth North Street and Wolf Street on August 11, 1973 at approximately 12:00 P.M.

    She is the mother of a son who was 2 1/2 years old at the time. She had an apartment on Wolf Street, on Syracuse's North Side.
    She had been in a mental hospital and struggled, with alcohol, a bad marriage, and was getting on and off public assistance.

    Rosemary frequented the former Yellow Balloon Bar on Thompson Road, near Erie Boulevard East. She often traveled to attend rock concerts.
    She told friends she was eventually going to Boston, MA., to meet with an unknown male friend.




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    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Syracuse Police Department
    315-442-5200

    Agency Case Number: 05-328624

    NCIC Number:
    M-091232922
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._rosemary.html
    No activity on SS number.

    Rosemary E. Hamilton Buck (20) - Syracuse NY, 1973 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
    Missing in America link---no discussion allowed there.

    I do not find Rosemary listed in NamUs at this time.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ary-buck&hl=en
    1989
    Do not know who these remains turned out to be.


    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...ary-buck&hl=en
    1989
    bones ruled out.

    Rosemary has been missing 37 years today. Her son deserves answers. Come home soon.
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    Last edited by KateB; 04-08-2015 at 05:36 PM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Bumping...

    Circumstances of Disappearance

    Rosemary Buck was last seen hitchhiking near the corner of Sixth North Street and Wolf Street on August 11, 1973 at approximately 12:00 P.M.

    She is the mother of a son who was 2 1/2 years old at the time. She had an apartment on Wolf Street, on Syracuse's North Side.

    She had been in a mental hospital and struggled, with alcohol, a bad marriage, and was getting on and off public assistance.

    Rosemary frequented the former Yellow Balloon Bar on Thompson Road, near Erie Boulevard East. She often traveled to attend rock concerts.

    She told friends she was eventually going to Boston, MA., to meet with an unknown male friend.

    LINK:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2446dfny.html

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    NAMUS for Rosemary is now there

    Rosemary is now listed in Namus. NAMUS MP 7592. NAMUS shows the same picture of her as shown in the above posts. Bumping.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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    Bump.

    https://whereaboutsstillunknown.word...rosemary-buck/ came out just after the last post. It fills in a bit more background and may reinforce the theory that she took off. However, it also sounds as though she was unhappy and unstable so that could mean various possibilities.

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    I'm hearing from Cold Case Investigators in Syracuse that her body was found on Indian Tribal Lands and that there are specific policies and procedures because of this. I'm awaiting confirmation on this I. The next few days.

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    praying she will be found soon
    Find Haleigh, Maddie, Diana,
    Find Lindsey, Pearll, Kyron


    Today's forecast; severe attitude warnings possible throughout the day, scattered sarcasm showers, and a strong chance of annoyance later in the day...

    Well butter my biscuit and call me darling , I'm just a hot mess !!! I'm not worried thou because I come from a strong line of lunatic's..





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    I am unfortunately not having any luck with the Syracuse Police Dept. nor the Onondaga Co. Sheriffs Office. Does anyone know if she has relatives on Facebook that I could maybe speak with? I am attempting to tie her in with a Jane Doe in Lebanon County, PA.

    Last week I spoke with an investigator with the SPD Cold Case Unit and he told me that he believed Rosemary Buck was found dead at an Indian Reservation in New York. I have been trying to get ahold of the same detective; however I lost his name and have been unsuccessful at reaching him. Further contact with SPD resulted in a phone war, where I was getting the runaround between the SPD and Onondaga Co. Sheriffs Office. I have had no other choice than to contact the admins for NAMUS and the PA State Police contact.

    I am hoping I can get some answers by the end of the day, if not by the end of the week. I feel like this case needs to warm up a bit. If there was potential foul play, this needs to be taken seriously by all forms of law enforcement.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
    SEND FRED LASTER'S FAMILY A THOUGHT BY SIGNING THIS GUESTBOOK: http://users3.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g36-26565-89

    REST IN PEACE FREDDY LASTER

    1978 LAKE CITY JOHN DOE WEBSLEUTHS DISCUSSION: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...st-area-Nov-78

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    ***CRITICAL UPDATE***

    I now have some new information on my dogged search for answers involving the Rosemary Buck/Jonestown Jane Doe lead. This could definitely be a must read.

    As I mentioned before, the SPD Cold Case Unit contacted me last week in regards to the information I submitted. The cold case detective mentioned that Rosemary Buck had be found on Indian Tribal Lands, but did not specify which state. He had followed up that he would call me in a few days when he got answers. He never called me back and I attempted to chat with the CCU, but I was bumped to the Onondaga Co. Sheriffs CCU. When I contacted OCSO CCU, they told me they were not involved in the case.

    When I realized I was getting the reacharound, I stopped co-operating with the SPD and moved on to the Penn. State Police Jonestown Barracks. I attempted to contact Trooper Nathan Trate, who is in charge of this investigation. He did not pick up and I left two messages on his machine. He has not returned my phone calls.

    On that note, I moved on to the NAMUS staff. I got a phone call from Dr. Richard Scanlon, an Odontologist for NAMUS yesterday but I was not able to pick up due to me driving on the road. He left a message inquiring more info on the Jane Doe and the potential match that I had. I returned his call and only got a message machine and left a message. He has not returned my phone call.

    Then this morning I attempted contact with Carol Schweitzer, who is a consultant with NAMUS and also a key person with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). And I made contact....finally.

    My conversation with Ms. Schweitzer was perhaps the most refreshing of all the attempts I made. After explaining my headache to her about the runarounds I received, I submitted Rosemary Buck as an official potential match. When Ms. Schweitzer looked it up, it was discovered she was submitted in 2015. But when I asked if there was a followup, she said she could not comment on that.

    What does that statement tell me? Something recent has happened and I am assuming at this point that Ms. Buck is perhaps the Jane Doe in question due to the simple fact of the confidentiality surrounding this lead. This was a very similar situation with the Lake City John Doe case I worked on. The missing persons information was still up, as well as the John Doe profile, even though an identity was found a year before the arrest. I am assuming the information is classified due to the fact that this is a murder investigation and that they may be zeroing in on a suspect; so they have to be careful not to potentially tip off the suspect.

    I ask that everyone following this keep a close eye on this case within the next few months or within the next year. Something big could happen.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
    SEND FRED LASTER'S FAMILY A THOUGHT BY SIGNING THIS GUESTBOOK: http://users3.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g36-26565-89

    REST IN PEACE FREDDY LASTER

    1978 LAKE CITY JOHN DOE WEBSLEUTHS DISCUSSION: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...st-area-Nov-78

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    Interesting. I did have brief contact with Rosemary's son years ago but he was just a baby when she went missing. He was looking for information. At least at that time he did not know anything more than what had been posted online and was not in touch with any of her other relatives. I might be able to get in touch with him again if needed but I'm not sure, it's been a long time and emails change pretty often these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    Interesting. I did have brief contact with Rosemary's son years ago but he was just a baby when she went missing. He was looking for information. At least at that time he did not know anything more than what had been posted online and was not in touch with any of her other relatives. I might be able to get in touch with him again if needed but I'm not sure, it's been a long time and emails change pretty often these days.
    If you could that would be great! Also I am sure that LE would probably tell him more that what was told to me. I feel like the cold case detective may have slipped me information he wasn't supposed to by talking about Rosemary "being found" on tribal land. If I'm not mistaken, Indiantown Gap area is tribal land in Pennsylvania. I feel like this will unravel soon; and if the son can verify it, it will be much much sooner.


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    I am sorry, I haven't been able to put much time into these cases lately. But I wanted to let you know that I just sent an email to her son. I'll let you know if I hear back. The email didn't bounce so I'm hopeful that he sees it.

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    I haven't gotten any response as of yet but stumbled across this thread pertaining to that Jane Doe and saw that detective had posted. After trying to figure out why that detective's name was so familiar, it finally hit me that I had seen it in your post here. He included contact info that I thought might be useful.

    http://peoplelookingforpeople.com/read.php?3,1693

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    I haven't gotten any response as of yet but stumbled across this thread pertaining to that Jane Doe and saw that detective had posted. After trying to figure out why that detective's name was so familiar, it finally hit me that I had seen it in your post here. He included contact info that I thought might be useful.

    http://peoplelookingforpeople.com/read.php?3,1693
    Add Rosemary Buck to the ruleouts! Just received a call from Trooper Trate at the Jonestown Barracks of the PSP confirming the ruleout.
    NEW LAKE CITY JOHN DOE/RONNIE HYDE CASE WEBSITE: WWW.LAKECITYJOHNDOE.WEEBLY.COM
    SEND FRED LASTER'S FAMILY A THOUGHT BY SIGNING THIS GUESTBOOK: http://users3.smartgb.com/g/g.php?a=s&i=g36-26565-89

    REST IN PEACE FREDDY LASTER

    1978 LAKE CITY JOHN DOE WEBSLEUTHS DISCUSSION: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...st-area-Nov-78

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonFutchLakeCityFL View Post
    Add Rosemary Buck to the ruleouts! Just received a call from Trooper Trate at the Jonestown Barracks of the PSP confirming the ruleout.
    Does that mean the other detective was mistaken, or could she still have been identified as a different uid on tribal lands?

    Just wanted to add that in the thread I linked to above, he seemed to think the uid was a match for Helen Allison but a family member looked at the photo and said "that's not her" but I don't know if she/he realized it was a recon and not supposed to look identical to the person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    Does that mean the other detective was mistaken, or could she still have been identified as a different uid on tribal lands?

    Just wanted to add that in the thread I linked to above, he seemed to think the uid was a match for Helen Allison but a family member looked at the photo and said "that's not her" but I don't know if she/he realized it was a recon and not supposed to look identical to the person.
    The UID in question has since been identified.
    Who is Fly Creek Jane Doe?

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