08-25-2010, 07:59 PM #1
NY - Woodbury, BlkMale 218UMNY, 25-35, shot by 2 different guns, May'98Case File 218UMNY
Unidentified Black Male
Located on May 3, 1998 in Woodbury, Orange County, New York.
The victim had wounds from two different calibers of guns.
The estimated date of death is 1985.
State of Remains: Skeletal
Estimated age: 25 - 35 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6" - 5'11"; 140 - 160 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: He was knock-kneed.
Dentals: Dental information is available.
Clothing: When found, the victim was fully clothed. His clothes are pictured below.
A black t-shirt with design of a rainbow leading to a pot of gold, Inscribed Follow Your Dreams.
A blue zippered Sir Jac Jacket.
Blue or black jeans with a 32-inch waist and a 32-inch inseam.
Blue boxer shorts.
White low-top Pony sneakers. They were out of style at the time.
A hair pick. Items not pictured: a French/English dictionary, a yellow "Bic" lighter and a metal nail file.
Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-28-2013 at 06:14 PM.
Where is Nancy Moyer?
08-25-2010, 08:07 PM #2
The bottom of a 25-foot embankment near the Long Path Rest Area, Bear Mountain State Park, 1/4 a mile east of State Route 6. Town of Woodbury, NY, Orange County is where volunteers found fully dressed skeletal remains.
On May 3, 1998, the Ramapo Chapter of the Adirondack Mountain Club while volunteering near the Long Mountain Rest area of Route 6 found those skeletal remains wrapped in plastic. Like I mentioned, the deceased was fully dressed.
The full dressed skeleton was wearing:
*A black t shirt with the design of a rainbow leading to a pot of gold,
*inscribed with Follow Your Dreams.
*A blue zippered sir Jac Jacket.
*Blue or black jeans with 32 inch waist and a 32 inch inseam.
*Blue boxer shorts
*White low-top Pony sneakers
And had the following items:
*French/ English dictionary,
*Metal nail file
*Yellow “Bic” lighter
Where is Nancy Moyer?
08-26-2010, 02:35 PM #3Registered User
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Could he be Luc Soucy?
Since the Woodbury Doe carried a French/English directory, he could be either from Quebec or France. I found possible Luc Doucy from Quebec after search none similar from France. I think that the vital statistics & estimate death from the UID is consistent with the Doe Network: Case File 493DMQC. I could be wrong. Here's the link:
08-27-2010, 08:19 AM #4
Thank you for posting this! "Follow Your Dreams" John Doe is one of the cases I mentioned in the "Cases that Haunt You" thread. It's not said how investigators came up with 1985 as a possible date of death. Not only the sneakers, but that style of iron-on decal shirt would've been out of style in 1998 (unless it was a retro reproduction shirt, and they obviously don't believe it was.)
I've searched for that t-shirt decal with no success, but I did find photos of what I believe to be the same "Sir Jac" jacket on eBay a while back. The eBay listing described it as being made in the 1970s, and while I haven't verified that, it's not unreasonable that someone might have been wearing a jacket in the mid-eighties that was six or more years old. Photos:
Luc Soucy looks like a good match. He and FYD John Doe are both tall and very slim. His Doe Network page doesn't mention his ethnicity...<-- Watched one too many Hanna-Barbera "teenage detective" cartoons as a kid.
01-01-2012, 05:11 PM #5
01-02-2012, 12:13 AM #6Registered User
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I thought the UID was black? Luc Soucy doesn't really look black. Although I don't know how they determined UID's ethnicity on skeletal remains.
The French/English dictionary is intriguing. The location he was found, however, seems so cliche.....just far enough from the city to be in the sticks where a body could be dumped. My guess is murderers and maybe even UID were from near New York city and UID could be a Canadian who moved there too.
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