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    Arrow Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010

    Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010

    Today's case review topic is the LE press conferences and press release of June 7.

    Before beginning the Case Review, please read the Introductory thread here:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112566"]Introduction: Kyron Horman Case Review #1: LE Press Conferences & Releases[/ame]

    The first post in that thread explains the Case Review. The second post in that thread contains the Case Review schedule.

    Thread #1 for this Case Review is here:
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112614"]Kyron Horman Case Review #1: Thread #1: LE Press Conference & Release: June 5 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

    Thread #2 for this Case Review is here:
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112688"]Kyron Horman Case Review #1: Thread #2: LE Press Conference & Release: June 6 2010 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    ** Please note that it's important, since we'll be reviewing a variety of information, that we don't turn this into a General Discussion thread, and cause more work for our mods.

    ** The goal is to look for new information, information that now has more meaning to us than it did earlier, and document it here, so let's stay focused!

    ** If we want to discuss possible meanings of what we find, let's do it in one of the discussion threads, so we can stay focused on our fact finding mission here.

    We have a LOT to review today, so let's get started!

    Thanks!
    BeanE

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    Arrow Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010

    Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010


    ** June 7 MCSO Press Conferences

    June 7 - Noon - Kyron Horman search news conference
    http://www.king5.com/video?id=95806599&sec=549132

    June 7 - Four o'clock - Kyron Horman search update news conference
    http://www.king5.com/video?id=95822614&sec=549132


    ** June 7 MCSO Press Release

    News Release from: Multnomah Co. Sheriff's Office MID-DAY UPDATE DAY FOUR ON THE SEARCH FOR KYRON HORMAN
    Posted: June 7th, 2010 2:30 PM



    The Search for Seven-year-old Kyron Horman continues this afternoon with a large compliment of Local, State, and Federal law enforcement officials along with search and rescue crews from all over the region.

    At 12:00 p.m. Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Captain Jason Gates gave a press conference where he talked about the ongoing investigation. In that conference Captain Gates appealed to the public to "keep the tips coming in". He said, since Friday, there have been over 1,200 tips that investigators have received and are in the process of following up.

    Capt. Gates asked people to not show up at the search scene; he reiterated that there are numerous professional search teams on the scene, and said "we do not need civilian searchers".

    Capt. Gates said the interviews with parents and students of the Skyline School are continuing today and asked that any parents who have not talked to detectives please call our tip line to set up an interview time.

    This morning detectives canvassed Skyline Road and passed out flyers to motorists who were driving though the area at about the same time Kyron disappeared.

    Capt. Gates said investigators were prioritizing leads and because of that some people may have to wait before being contacted by investigators. He asked that people please be patient and investigators will contact them.

    Capt. Gates asked people who live in the area to search their properties and leave no stone unturned when looking for Kyron. He reiterated that our main mission and focus is to bring Kyron Home as soon as we can. He said investigators are not sharing all of the information with the public because they so not want to taint anyone's recollection of events.

    There will be another press briefing at 4:00 pm. At the church across the street from the school.

    http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom.htm

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    Arrow Case Review Reference Links - June 7 News Articles

    Case Review Reference Links - June 7 News Articles


    Monday 4 p.m. news conference for Kyron Horman
    http://www.katu.com/home/video/95822899.html


    Search grows for missing boy
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 3:01 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/news/national/95754294.html


    Cops mum after talking to 200 people about missing boy
    Story Published: Jun 7, 2010 at 7:07 AM PDT
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95768334.html


    FBI profiler helping in missing boy case
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 8:03 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-vi...-95772674.html


    Photos: Missing boy Kyron Horman
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 8:58 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/news/slideshows/P...-95777234.html


    School adds security after boy vanishes
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/home/School-adds-...-95783264.html


    Timeline: Search for Kyron Horman
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 10:56 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-vi...-95787519.html


    Search for Oregon boy who disappeared from Portland school grows
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 11:02 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/news/national/95788119.html


    MAP: Search for Kyron Horman
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 11:38 AM
    http://www.kgw.com/home/related/Sear...-95791629.html


    Schools adding auto-dial program for absent kids
    by Teresa Blackman
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 1:02 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/home/Schools-addi...-95799239.html


    Intel employees "praying" for colleague's missing son
    Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 1:39 PM
    http://blog.oregonlive.com/siliconfo...ng_for_co.html


    Searchers for missing Ore. boy flooded with tips
    Posted: Jun 07, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
    http://www.kmph.com/Global/story.asp?S=12607762


    Kyron Horman Update: FBI Joins Search for Missing Boy
    June 7, 2010 1:56 PM
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...56-504083.html


    Still no sign of missing boy, search goes on
    Story Published: Jun 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM PDT
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95808084.html


    School security increased after boy disappears
    Story Published: Jun 6, 2010 at 4:32 PM PDT
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95734359.html


    Do you worry about your kids' safety at school?
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/thesquare/upcomin...-95822009.html


    Missing boy's family keeping in touch by social media
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 5:33 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-vi...-95822609.html


    Search for Kyron Horman on day 4
    Sheriff, FBI discuss the missing boy
    June 7, 2010 at 05:43 PM
    Press conference Video: http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregoni...an_on_day.html


    Kyron Horman disappearance prompts Portland schools to re-examine security procedures
    Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 5:47 PM
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...rance_pro.html


    Search & rescue crews restart search for missing Kyron Horman
    Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 5:57 PM
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._this_mor.html


    How to talk with your kids about strangers
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 6:38 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-vi...-95825564.html


    Former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt on the search for Kyron
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 7:35 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/thesquare/Former-...-95828134.html


    Inside search dog training
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 7:43 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/thesquare/How-sea...-95828484.html


    Search for Kyron takes emotional toll on investigators
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 7:46 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/thesquare/Search-...-95828579.html


    Schools adjust safety procedures amidst search
    Posted on June 7, 2010 at 7:49 PM
    http://www.kgw.com/thesquare/Portlan...-95828649.html


    Kyron Horman search attracts 1,200 tips, but still no sign of the Portland second-grader
    Published: Monday, June 07, 2010, 8:40 PM
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...ttracts_1.html


    Superintendent now requires auto-caller for absences
    Story Published: Jun 7, 2010 at 8:40 PM PDT
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95830849.html


    Expert: FBI profilers work to define kidnapping suspects
    Story Published: Jun 7, 2010 at 10:12 PM PDT
    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95834519.html


    Kyron Horman search attracts 1,200 tips, but still no sign of the Portland second-grader
    Photos from The Oregonian
    Posted: Monday, June 07, 2010, 10:33 PM
    http://photos.oregonlive.com/oregoni...acts_1_10.html

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    Arrow Case Review Reference Links - Miscellaneous

    Case Review Reference Links - Miscellaneous


    Our Websleuths thread that contains the beginning of discussion on June 7:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=106178&page=2


    On this day, June 7, investigators continued interviewing Kaine, and Terri took her first polygraph test. Kaine claims that Terri came home from her poly and said that LE told her she had failed. This information is contained in the 25 minute audio interview of Kaine and Desiree with the Oregonian:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i..._to_kyron.html
    Last edited by BeanE; 08-26-2010 at 10:49 AM.

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    "Authorities were reviewing photos and videos taken at the school's science fair. The last photo of Kyron shows the boy smiling Friday in front of his project on the red-eyed tree frog."

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95768334.html

    I've seen this statement in other articles and don't know what to make of it - like here:

    "Authorities were reviewing photos and videos taken at the school's science fair. The last photo of Kyron shows him smiling Friday in front of his project on the red-eyed tree frog."

    http://www.kgw.com/home/School-adds-...-95783264.html
    Last edited by SurfieTX; 08-26-2010 at 11:07 AM.
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    "PORTLAND, Ore. - While police said there was no indication Monday that Kyron Horman was kidnapped, the FBI called in a profiler who could help identify a possible kidnapper."

    ~snip

    "The profiler will also make a profile of Horman based on what he learns from family, friends and teachers. That information could also tell the profiler and agents what type of person would target Horman."

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95834519.html
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    Monday 4 p.m. news conference for Kyron Horman
    http://www.katu.com/home/video/95822899.html

    Staton would not comment on possible transient camps in the woods behind the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    "Authorities were reviewing photos and videos taken at the school's science fair. The last photo of Kyron shows the boy smiling Friday in front of his project on the red-eyed tree frog."

    http://www.katu.com/news/local/95768334.html

    I've seen this statement in other articles and don't know what to make of it - like here:

    "Authorities were reviewing photos and videos taken at the school's science fair. The last photo of Kyron shows him smiling Friday in front of his project on the red-eyed tree frog."

    http://www.kgw.com/home/School-adds-...-95783264.html
    I wanted to expound on this a little. If this was indeed the last photo taken of Kyron, that means it was taken at 8:15 (shortly after arriving to school). The time from 8:15 to 8:45 is presumably when they toured the rest of the fair. So, therefore, the police did not find any photographs or videos with Kyron (and perhaps Terri and the baby) after 8:15.
    The world is full of monsters with friendly faces and angels full of scars. ~ Unknown

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle

    The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    I wanted to expound on this a little. If this was indeed the last photo taken of Kyron, that means it was taken at 8:15 (shortly after arriving to school). The time from 8:15 to 8:45 is presumably when they toured the rest of the fair. So, therefore, the police did not find any photographs or videos with Kyron (and perhaps Terri and the baby) after 8:15.
    What this article doesn't say is that Terri is the person who took the last photo. Perhaps another person took a picture of Kyron smiling at the tree frog exhibit. This article doesn't clear that up. And I don't know where the 8:15 time for Terri's photo came from. Can you help with that one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by debs View Post
    What this article doesn't say is that Terri is the person who took the last photo. Perhaps another person took a picture of Kyron smiling at the tree frog exhibit. This article doesn't clear that up. And I don't know where the 8:15 time for Terri's photo came from. Can you help with that one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010


    ** June 7 MCSO Press Conferences

    June 7 - Noon - Kyron Horman search news conference
    http://www.king5.com/video?id=95806599&sec=549132

    June 7 - Four o'clock - Kyron Horman search update news conference
    http://www.king5.com/video?id=95822614&sec=549132


    ** June 7 MCSO Press Release

    News Release from: Multnomah Co. Sheriff's Office MID-DAY UPDATE DAY FOUR ON THE SEARCH FOR KYRON HORMAN
    Posted: June 7th, 2010 2:30 PM



    The Search for Seven-year-old Kyron Horman continues this afternoon with a large compliment of Local, State, and Federal law enforcement officials along with search and rescue crews from all over the region.

    At 12:00 p.m. Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Captain Jason Gates gave a press conference where he talked about the ongoing investigation. In that conference Captain Gates appealed to the public to "keep the tips coming in". He said, since Friday, there have been over 1,200 tips that investigators have received and are in the process of following up.

    Capt. Gates asked people to not show up at the search scene; he reiterated that there are numerous professional search teams on the scene, and said "we do not need civilian searchers".

    Capt. Gates said the interviews with parents and students of the Skyline School are continuing today and asked that any parents who have not talked to detectives please call our tip line to set up an interview time.

    This morning detectives canvassed Skyline Road and passed out flyers to motorists who were driving though the area at about the same time Kyron disappeared.

    Capt. Gates said investigators were prioritizing leads and because of that some people may have to wait before being contacted by investigators. He asked that people please be patient and investigators will contact them.

    Capt. Gates asked people who live in the area to search their properties and leave no stone unturned when looking for Kyron. He reiterated that our main mission and focus is to bring Kyron Home as soon as we can. He said investigators are not sharing all of the information with the public because they so not want to taint anyone's recollection of events.

    There will be another press briefing at 4:00 pm. At the church across the street from the school.

    http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom.htm
    Can't help but wonder if they had let civilian searchers look would they have had a better chance. They never used TES either, did they?

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    The first video is the one in which Gates breaks down and cries. Makes me cry every time I see it.
    Last edited by BeanE; 08-26-2010 at 12:57 PM.

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    Some of my notes on the second presser video listed above with Gates.

    • - interviews of staff, parents, and student wrapping up for the day.
    • - still some staff and parents haven't come in. LE will contact them if they don't come in.
    • - practically begging for tips
    • - leads from across oregon and washington state. most from oregon.
    • - nothing but absolute cooperation from the family
    • - no possibility eliminated yet
    • - more than 60% of the parents and staff have come forward
    • * yesterday Staton said 90% of students had been interviewed
    • - last seen 9am. won't say if it was a parent or student who saw him.
    • - energetic, fun-loving kid. well-liked and very social.
    • * why this contrast with timid and shy. Why is he so timid and shy with Desiree, and so energetic and social and fun-loving with everyone else?
    • - doesn't want to go into whether they're checking criminal backgrounds on school employees
    • - they are going to interview all school employees. he doesn't know if they all have been reached or interviewed yet.
    • - science fair was to last an hour
    • * 9 to 10? I thought it was 8 to 10. Does he mean 1 hour (9 to 10) for the kids?
    • - 2 interviewers per interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrella613 View Post
    Can't help but wonder if they had let civilian searchers look would they have had a better chance. They never used TES either, did they?
    I don't know why they haven't used TES yet. But I think they didn't want civilian searchers because they didn't want the perp to also be a searcher and they didn't know who might be involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    I wanted to expound on this a little. If this was indeed the last photo taken of Kyron, that means it was taken at 8:15 (shortly after arriving to school). The time from 8:15 to 8:45 is presumably when they toured the rest of the fair. So, therefore, the police did not find any photographs or videos with Kyron (and perhaps Terri and the baby) after 8:15.

    Probably are no photos or videos of TH and Kyron... In my experience with events like the Science Fair, most parents concentrate on taking photos and videos of their own children, and their own children's exhibits. IMO

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