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    2/22/09 Neighbor heard yelling @ 2:25AM with link.

    I really have a tough time believing any player in this case. What I've seen over time is this report being attributed to P. Poppin who was on another report. Listen and you will hear the reporter say "SHE." Paul P is not a she.

    The reporter Shannon Butler is talking about a different person than Paul P.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKkhLHyO_s
    Last edited by KateB; 04-29-2015 at 10:34 PM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Peli, I remember when we found this and we were amazed that a bigger deal was not made of it at the time. I still wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Peli, I remember when we found this and we were amazed that a bigger deal was not made of it at the time. I still wonder.
    Hi tec... long time eh?

    It's good to hear the stories circulating today compared to what was being reported.

    Alot has been made about the neighbor heard yelling but it seems to me LE has a statement yelling was heard at 2:25 that morning. Of course Misty only saw a three err she was under the blankets.

    Tommy says he was there when JO took her and assisted him and Ron deflects about the gun and fight story.

    I won't even comment about Ron's reaction, I just can't say enough.

    One thing troubles me though. We now know Ron was scheduled to work until midnight, he supposedly worked overtime until 3am. So if something happened to Haleigh after midnight, how did others involved know he wouldn't be home? I mean if JO was going to steal/borrow Ron's gun, how did he know Ron wasn't already home?
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    Great job finding the link/video covering the neighbor hearing yelling at 2:25 am. Now, there was also a report of a neighbor seeing Misty walking, crying and talking on a cell phone. Does anyone know what time this event supposedly happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Hi tec... long time eh?

    It's good to hear the stories circulating today compared to what was being reported.

    Alot has been made about the neighbor heard yelling but it seems to me LE has a statement yelling was heard at 2:25 that morning. Of course Misty only saw a three err she was under the blankets.

    Tommy says he was there when JO took her and assisted him and Ron deflects about the gun and fight story.

    I won't even comment about Ron's reaction, I just can't say enough.

    One thing troubles me though. We now know Ron was scheduled to work until midnight, he supposedly worked overtime until 3am. So if something happened to Haleigh after midnight, how did others involved know he wouldn't be home? I mean if JO was going to steal/borrow Ron's gun, how did he know Ron wasn't already home?
    BINGO! I've often wondered that myself. Reportedly, Misty would not pick up the phone, so Ron couldn't have told her that he was going to work overtime, but I bet he told his mother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonetraveler View Post
    BINGO! I've often wondered that myself. Reportedly, Misty would not pick up the phone, so Ron couldn't have told her that he was going to work overtime, but I bet he told his mother!
    Good point!

    Since it appears nothing is going to happen until Ron and Misty are sentenced, I hope LE are reading here to pick up on things they may have initially missed. Tommy and Joe wouldn't have known either - were those two left at the home while Misty was out doing something and when she returned, found whatever, went outside crying and called the people her phone records show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Hi tec... long time eh?

    It's good to hear the stories circulating today compared to what was being reported.

    Alot has been made about the neighbor heard yelling but it seems to me LE has a statement yelling was heard at 2:25 that morning. Of course Misty only saw a three err she was under the blankets.

    Tommy says he was there when JO took her and assisted him and Ron deflects about the gun and fight story.

    I won't even comment about Ron's reaction, I just can't say enough.

    One thing troubles me though. We now know Ron was scheduled to work until midnight, he supposedly worked overtime until 3am. So if something happened to Haleigh after midnight, how did others involved know he wouldn't be home? I mean if JO was going to steal/borrow Ron's gun, how did he know Ron wasn't already home?
    I like your thinking!!

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    I always thought that this particular piece of info was very very important. Especially to the time line.

    I think it's major JMHO.

    I don't know what to think about it just yet, to be honest, but I believe the woman heard yelling (hollaring, screaming...etc.) was MC. I really do.

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    Didnt Ron get ahold of Tommy? Didnt Tommy supposedly go to the MH to "check on" Misty. If Ron really did get ahold of Tommy before midnight, maybe Tommy told Misty and co. Ron wouldnt be home until three......just a thought.


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    It's hard to believe that a crime of this nature went down and no one heard anything, so I tend to believe these accounts from neighbors. I also believe LE may have asked them to keep quiet about it, and I understand that in the beginning, but after a while one would think LE would want some help from the public, and releasing some facts might spark some other people's memory of something they saw or heard that at the time might not have meant much. So, why hasn't LE done this? Other than to ask for anyone who might have seen Misty out and about that night, LE has really asked for nothing at all from anyone in the community--and that strikes me as highly unusual.

    As one poster said in another thread, hearing a gunshot in the dead of night might not bring to mind immediately that it was a gunshot. But, later when it is revealed that something went down, the person might think back and realize what they heard could have been a gunshot.

    Screams, crying, loud talking, arguing, vehicles coming in and leaving at a time when people are usually asleep...all might have been witnessed and dismissed as nothing by citizens, especially if that household was not exactly quiet as a matter of routine. But if given some facts by LE about what doesn't fit with Misty's timeline, a light bulb might go on for someone who may have seen or heard something that all along they have had no reason to believe relevant.

    Sometimes that which seems totally insignificant can, when finally brought to light, be a very important piece to a puzzle. JMO.

    ETA: LE soliciting citizens' help regarding what they might have seen or heard could pertain to just about anywhere (not just near 202 Green Lane) since we do not know for sure where the crime scene is.
    Last edited by krkrjx; 08-30-2010 at 04:10 PM. Reason: ETA


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    krkrjx, I sincerely admire those of you here who earnestly seek just a simple explanation as to WHY LE seems to haven't done too much of anything to solve this case, yet you remain optimistic they are trying to solve this case.. Me, after almost 19 months, and nothing revealed.. not so much... JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    krkrjx, I sincerely admire those of you here who earnestly seek just a simple explanation as to WHY LE seems to haven't done too much of anything to solve this case, yet you remain optimistic they are trying to solve this case.. Me, after almost 19 months, and nothing revealed.. not so much... JMHO
    Em, I question why for the same reasons you do not, KWIM?

    I want LE to want this solved. I want that to the point of not wanting to believe anything else.

    But I have been on this earth long enough to know that wanting does not always make it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krkrjx View Post
    Em, I question why for the same reasons you do not, KWIM?

    I want LE to want this solved. I want that to the point of not wanting to believe anything else.

    But I have been on this earth long enough to know that wanting does not always make it so.
    OK, I'm quoting my own post because I can no longer edit it. You needed to read between the lines to get what I hoped to say but that isn't really a fair expectation so I will say this to clarify:

    I give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible until I have reason to remove that benefit. This includes LE. I want to believe they want to know the truth and have always given them the benefit of any doubt I might have had. Now, though, I have to question why LE did not at some point ask for help from the community, re clues, suspicious activities, etc., for the night of Feb. 9-10, 2009. I mean, LE is being tight-lipped in the Kyron Horman case for good reason, but they have come out and asked the public for assistance when necessary.

    Putnam County does not ask for help and seems to try to shut anyone up who might have something to say and, at this stage of the investigation that makes no sense, IMO. I question why LE is not asking questions of others in the community, not just the players. Makes me think they don't really want the aswers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krkrjx View Post
    Em, I question why for the same reasons you do not, KWIM?

    I want LE to want this solved. I want that to the point of not wanting to believe anything else.
    But I have been on this earth long enough to know that wanting does not always make it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krkrjx View Post
    OK, I'm quoting my own post because I can no longer edit it. You needed to read between the lines to get what I hoped to say but that isn't really a fair expectation so I will say this to clarify:

    I give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible until I have reason to remove that benefit. This includes LE. I want to believe they want to know the truth and have always given them the benefit of any doubt I might have had. Now, though, I have to question why LE did not at some point ask for help from the community, re clues, suspicious activities, etc., for the night of Feb. 9-10, 2009. I mean, LE is being tight-lipped in the Kyron Horman case for good reason, but they have come out and asked the public for assistance when necessary.

    Putnam County does not ask for help and seems to try to shut anyone up who might have something to say and, at this stage of the investigation that makes no sense, IMO. I question why LE is not asking questions of others in the community, not just the players. Makes me think they don't really want the aswers.


    IMHO.. I have felt that way for some time now..Problem is.. I don't know what to do about it since I don't live in that county or in the state of Florida...

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