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    MI - Carolyn Martin, 24, & Mark Martin, 2, Madison Heights, 31 Aug 1981

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 2895DFMI

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2895dfmi.html

    Carolyn Sue Martin
    Missing since August 31, 1981 from Madison Heights, Michigan
    Classification: Endangered Missing


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    Vital Statistics

    •Date Of Birth: January 19, 1957
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 24 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 110 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown shoulder-length hair with bangs; light blue eyes.
    •Marks, Scars: Both of her ears are pierced once. No known scars nor tattoos.
    •DNA: Available
    •AKA: Sue


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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Carolyn Martin and her 2-year-old son, Mark Martin were last seen on August 31, 1981.
    They reportedly were dropped off on the side of I-75, just north of Toledo, Ohio, by Mark's father.

    Carolyn Martin's family and friends had gathered the afternoon of August 31, 1981, to help her pack for an abrupt move to San Antonio. Her fiance wanted to relocate there for a job at an auto shop. The two had recently gotten engaged after years of acrimony. Carolyn's ex had very little to do with either her or Mark before that point -- until a paternity suit ordered him to pay child support. The couple had reconciled and were looking forward to a new life together.

    Carolyn stopped at her mother's Hazel Park home with Mark that evening to say goodbye. That was the last time the family saw her or Mark.

    Within an hour after they left the metropolitan Detroit area, Carolyn reportedly told her boyfriend she didn't want to go with him to Texas anymore. He then left her and Mark on the side of I-75 with a suitcase, $4,000 in cash and the clothes on their backs. No one has seen or heard from them since. Their names, DOBs and Social Security numbers have never been used.


    Madison Heights Police started looking into the case the following spring, after the family filed missing person reports.
    Foul play is suspected.


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    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Madison Heights Police Department
    248-585-2100

    Agency Case Number: 8204679

    NCIC Number: M-103805394
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information:
    America's Most wanted

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 4222DMMI

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4222dmmi.html

    Mark Steven Martin
    Missing since August 31, 1981 from Madison Heights, Michigan
    Classification: Endangered Missing



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    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: March 14, 1978
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 2 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 2'10"; 30-35 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Light brown / sandy hair; brown eyes.


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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Carolyn Martin and her 2-year-old son, Mark Martin were last seen on August 31, 1981. They reportedly were dropped off on the side of I-75, just north of Toledo, Ohio, by Mark's father.

    Carolyn Martin's family and friends had gathered the afternoon of August 31, 1981, to help her pack for an abrupt move to San Antonio. Her fiance wanted to relocate there for a job at an auto shop. The two had recently gotten engaged after years of acrimony. Carolyn's ex had very little to do with either her or Mark before that point -- until a paternity suit ordered him to pay child support. The couple had reconciled and were looking forward to a new life together.

    Carolyn stopped at her mother's Hazel Park home with Mark that evening to say goodbye. That was the last time the family saw her or Mark.

    Within an hour after they left the metropolitan Detroit area, Carolyn reportedly told her boyfriend she didn't want to go with him to Texas anymore. He then left her and Mark on the side of I-75 with a suitcase, $4,000 in cash and the clothes on their backs. No one has seen or heard from them since. Their names, DOBs and Social Security numbers have never been used.

    Madison Heights Police started looking into the case the following spring, after the family filed missing person reports. Foul play is suspected.



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    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

    Madison Heights Police Department
    Detective Kowolaski
    248-585-2100

    Agency Case Number: 8204670

    Source Information:
    America's Most Wanted

    http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=71154
    Article about both Mother and Son at AMW.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...n_carolyn.html
    Carolyn.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/martin_mark.html
    Mark.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/6907/29/
    Carolyn NamUS Profile:
    Dental: NA
    DNA: Sample submitted-tests complete
    Fingerprints: NA

    Snipped from Carolyn's NamUs Profile:
    Circumstances On August 31, 1981 Carolyn Martin and her 2 year old son Mark Martin left Hazel Park, Mi. to move to San Antonio, Texas. They left with Carolyn's boyfriend and father of her son, Harry Kzirian aka Hamparsohan Kirwzian. Both Carolyn and Mark have not been heard from since. When interviewed in April, 1982 Harry stated to police that Carolyn changed her mind enroute to Texas and that he dropped her and Mark off near Toledo, Ohio.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7917/28/
    Mark NamUs Profile:
    Dental: NA
    DNA: Sample submitted-tests complete
    Fingerprints: NA

    Carolyn and Mark have been missing almost 29 years. Come home soon. Carolyn's family still searches for answers.
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    The first annual Missing in Michigan Event was held on May 7th, 2011 at Ford Field in Detroit, MI. The slideshow was made to commemorate the families of the missing that attended the event.

    Carolyn and Mark are included.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2gXGL6xQLA
    Last edited by KateB; 04-05-2015 at 10:25 PM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Featured on Livingston County's cold case Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/64693680205...785170/?type=1

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    Carolyn and Mark Martin have been missing for 34 years now.

    "Twin awaits Madison Heights sister's return as state observes missing persons' month" - May 2015

    http://www.dailytribune.com/general-...-persons-month

    “Every day,” said 58-year-old Martin, who now lives in Florida, when asked how often he looks up their names on the Internet. “I just keep on Googling their names hoping that I will get lucky.”

    Martin says although he suspects foul play in her disappearance his heart tells him the mother and the son are still alive.

    “As a twin, I don’t feel that she is really gone,” Martin said.
    Last edited by JusticeWillBeServed; 08-31-2015 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    The two had recently gotten engaged after years of acrimony. Carolyn's ex had very little to do with either her or Mark before that point -- until a paternity suit ordered him to pay child support.
    Unfortunately, it's fairly obvious what happened to them. Locating the bodies will be a challenge because the ex-boyfriend could have gotten rid of them anywhere between Michigan and Texas. The bodies may not be together: he may have disposed of them separately in order to lessen the chances of them being found or identified. The child would have been small enough to dispose of in a garbage bag placed in a gas-station trash can. The entire move to Texas was probably just part of the plan to dispose of the two, so he probably put quite a bit of planning into the disposal of the bodies. For instance, he may have left them in a dumpster that he knew would be emptied the same day, with the contents destined for an incinerator. This seems like a case where the boyfriend could have been charged with abduction or murder even without the bodies.

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    I read somewhere (Detroit News article maybe?) that the newspaper called him for a comment on the story and when asked about Carolyn and Mark he said "I don't know who that is"

    Grrr......
    Nina
    Host of the Already Gone Podcast.



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