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    What street did Tommy live on then ?

    Our house in Wedgewood had the mailbox by the front door on the wall, every neighborhood I was familiar with in those days did too. An old postman I know says in 1974 the letter if mailed from Throckmorton would have spent the night in Abeline, if mailed in Weatherford there was a chance of next day delivery, depending on when and where it was picked up, but remember we are talking Xmas time and volume was heavy back then.

    Did the letter for sure arrive the next morning after the dissapearance? I have asked that and not recieved an answer, I guess i can find out for sure when I go to the library.


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    What day of the week did they vanish? Anybody got an old calendar?


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    It was a Monday, good ole google


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser Sousa View Post
    What street did Tommy live on then ?

    Our house in Wedgewood had the mailbox by the front door on the wall, every neighborhood I was familiar with in those days did too. An old postman I know says in 1974 the letter if mailed from Throckmorton would have spent the night in Abeline, if mailed in Weatherford there was a chance of next day delivery, depending on when and where it was picked up, but remember we are talking Xmas time and volume was heavy back then.

    Did the letter for sure arrive the next morning after the dissapearance? I have asked that and not recieved an answer, I guess i can find out for sure when I go to the library.
    Yes, the letter definitely turned up on the morning of December 24th. Texas Sandman, who lived on the same street as Rachel said he does not recall ever having morning mail delivery on that street - however he was a child in 1974 so he might not have known. The last digit of the postmark is incomplete so they are not sure where the letter came from. I almost wonder if someone who had been a postal employee or knew postal employees or somehow bought a postmark stamp - maybe in a junk shop actually hand delivered the letter to Rachel's house.

    As to what street - it was over off of 6th Street - not sure the exact address. Texas Sandman could tell you.


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    6th Avenue ? North of Elizabeth Blvd ? I lived in that neighborhood in 1974. Lots of longhairs, musicians and artists lived around there along with the older folk who had lived there forever.


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    my private messaging has been enabled now, i guess i was on probation


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser Sousa View Post
    my private messaging has been enabled now, i guess i was on probation
    Aha! At least that's one mystery solved today! LOL!


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    4 marriages in the span of 6 years. Wow. Did TT stay married to RF or have there been more divorces and marriages in the following years?

    What puzzles me is that his parents apparently died before he married Rachel, so theoretically, he would have inherited at least a portion of their estate (if they had anything or any life insurance.) Texas is a community property state, so each wife would get 50% of his worth. You would think after the first wife, he would not have wanted to get married for a long time due to his financial situation. But perhaps his parents left little to nothing so he didn't care.
    Inheritance is not community property.


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    More information about the missing trio case including Mary Roger's investigative report indicates I am not alone in linking the trio's disappearance to the I45 murders.

    MISSING TRIO FORT WORTH - Cold Case Investigations
    Last edited by KateB; 04-05-2015 at 02:53 AM. Reason: repair url tag.


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    ...When last seen, Mrs. Trlica was wearing an orange and white striped blouse with high waisted jeans and brown shoes with large heels. She was wearing wedding rings, a gold dinner ring with diamonds and a heart shaped pendant.

    Miss Wilson was wearing a yellow T shirt with "Sweet Honesty" written on the front in green lettering, blue hip hugger pants, ....., red and white oxford shoes, and a white gold ... diamond ring

    Miss Mosley was last seen wearing a red long sleeved with blue denim pants and red tennis shoes with white toes....

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    Rumor about the case:

    "At the time, everyone was saying the girls led idyllic lives and had no reason to leave," Mr. Arnold said. "But Rachel wasn't happy, and Renee had her own troubles."
    Mr. James agreed.
    "They had the motive to leave, and they had the opportunity - except for Julie Ann," he said. "It was a serendipity mistake for her to go to the mall."
    The two men said they suspect that the older girls asked someone to come get Julie Ann at the shopping center so they could then go wherever they'd planned.
    "That person was supposed to return Julie Ann home, but it never happened," Mr. Arnold said. "We have no hard evidence, so we can't prove anything, but that's what all the things we've learned have led us to believe."

    http://officialcoldcaseinvestigation...?t=2029&page=2


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    Possible additional cases in Ft, Worth:

    Brenda Louise Hogan-White - disappeared Febuary 15, 1977, and her remains were found in June 2005.

    Donna Williamson disappeared August 3, 1982- her remains were found in Johnson County in 1993, but were not identified until 2004


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    This is my first post in a few days so it covers several subjects...

    Princess Rose, that's a good point that Rachel might not have been the primary target of whoever made the girls disappear, and she could have become the focus of the investigation because she may have been the only girl with a license on her. Again, obviously since he was 11 when this happened Rusty's innocent, but I find his statement that "Julie was the true victim in all of this" rather unsettling...all three, regardless of their ages, strike me as victims in every sense of the word, no matter what happened that day. You have to wonder what he thinks happened to the older two girls if he doesn't think they were victimized as badly and were left alive, though I may be reading too much into his quote and he didn't mean it that way at all.

    Debra, not to be nosy but the record of TT's marriages supports your statement from the article that your engagement to him wasn't "real." I assume you were engaged sometime before he married his first wife in 1971, when you would have been about 16. While I knew several girls who talked seriously about being engaged at that age, few of the marriages actually happened down the road, and I myself was "engaged" (minus the rings and newspaper announcement) at 20 but am married to someone else now. So having been in a similar boat, I can see why in hindsight you don't consider the engagement that real even though at the time it was probably very legitimate to you. I hope that LE didn't dwell too much on the fact that you were engaged at one point because IMHO it doesn't seem vital to the case.

    Also, TT remarried Rachel less than two months after divorcing his first wife so I assume they'd separated sometime before. Mainly because I think he's as innocent as the rest of the family, I see the marriage records as a sign that TT had lasting trouble just as Debra said she and Rusty have had over the years...he had several early marriages that didn't work out.

    PR, thank you for the quotes from the Cold Case thread. It's still hard to believe that if the girls left for their own reasons they wouldn't have eventually heard that Julie hadn't made it home safely. Why wouldn't they have called to say WHO they sent her home from the mall with? It makes no sense that they'd let that individual off scott-free.


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    This was stated in two of the newspaper articles on the cold case thread:


    A few days later, a letter bearing Mrs. Trlica's name arrived at her husband's home. "I know I'm going to catch it, but we just had to get away," the letter says. "We're going to Houston. See you in about a week. The car is in the Sear's upper lot."


    So when did the letter really get there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess Rose View Post
    Rumor about the case:

    "At the time, everyone was saying the girls led idyllic lives and had no reason to leave," Mr. Arnold said. "But Rachel wasn't happy, and Renee had her own troubles."
    Mr. James agreed.
    "They had the motive to leave, and they had the opportunity - except for Julie Ann," he said. "It was a serendipity mistake for her to go to the mall."
    The two men said they suspect that the older girls asked someone to come get Julie Ann at the shopping center so they could then go wherever they'd planned.
    "That person was supposed to return Julie Ann home, but it never happened," Mr. Arnold said. "We have no hard evidence, so we can't prove anything, but that's what all the things we've learned have led us to believe."

    http://officialcoldcaseinvestigation...?t=2029&page=2
    I'm glad you posted this, PrincessRose. I remember reading it on Rusty's site. Now that I look at it again, it makes zero sense. How would the older girls have known whether or not Julie Ann arrived home if they weren't home themselves? They would have either had to call home or driven by there to know the answer.

    I get the idea from what Rusty has written that the wildest possible story makes more sense to him than the likely awful truth that his sister and the other two girls were murdered the day they disappeared.

    And as Debra said there is no way those girls would've left town 2 days before Christmas. ITA with her on that. If they had problems, they'd have just put them off and dealt with them after Christmas.

    I truly wonder what Tommy had gotten Rachel for Christmas that year or if he even had a gift ready for her to open on Christmas Eve or Day.


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