09-02-2010, 02:20 AM #1
Urgent: Websleuths Does Not Endorse Nor Condone Any Sort Of "Protest"!
Dear Websleuths Members and Visitors,
Whenever a case gets a lot of media attention it can draw out people and ideas that as owner of Websleuths I only do not agree with but highly disprove of.
There is talk of some sort of "protest" in front of someone's home in regards to Kyron's case.
Let me state this as clear as I can; In no way shape or form does Websleuths have anything to do with any protest. Nor will I allow any discussion of organizing of the protest.
In stronger language let me state it makes people look ridiculous when they pull things like this.
Remember the "protesters" in front of the Anthony house? I was completely embarrassed for them. The looked like they were out of control and over the top.
For some reason whenever anything like this happens many people, including some media, suggest these things come from "Internet Crazies."
And anything that is attached to the Internet and True Crime ALWAYS gets blamed on Websleuths.
I have lost count of the time our forum has been accused of doing things to people involved in cases when in fact we had nothing to do with any of it.
The Anthony protesters is a a good example. Websleuths was accused of letting people organize on our site.
Let me address those who are reading this and are part of the protest:
In my opinion, if you decide to go protest in front of anyone's house you will end up looking like one of the "Internet crazies" people accuse you of being.
You will do nothing to advance Kyron's case. Kyron . . . Remember him?
Day in and day out I fight the stereotype of Internet Crazies when it comes to people participating in Websleuths. We are not even close to those type of people who use the Internet to get attention through ways that are inappropriate at best.
At Websleuths we strive every day to do the right thing, to do it with class and compassion for the victims.
Thank you for your time.
Last edited by Tricia; 09-02-2010 at 02:53 PM.
09-02-2010, 08:03 AM #2
This is sooooo true. I was reading a thread on Kyron on another forum. The tone and wording of the posts was very much different then on WS. I was left with the vivid impression of "These folks are nuts" and " let the witch hunts begin" came to mind.
I now have a new appreciation for the time and effort Tricia and the moderators put in to keep this site from turning into a vigilance committee.
To keep everyone from running to their dictionaries:
Vigilance Committee: (n) a volunteer group of citizens that without authority assumes police powers, as pursuing and punishing criminal suspects.
09-02-2010, 12:07 PM #3
Thank you so very much for your observation. I can't tell you how much what you said means to me. I am grateful when others see what is going on at other forums and how we strive to be different.
"Vigilance Committee." Never heard of the term but now you have enlightened me. Thank you
09-02-2010, 12:32 PM #4Former Member
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Besides, without Cindy's hammer and George's hose.......
(just trying to lighten the mood.)
(slinking out now)
09-02-2010, 12:32 PM #5
Think long and hard before you do this guys. Long and hard. What will you be accomplishing? I mean is the over all feeling that someone will break from the sight of angry protesters and run to the DA's office to confess?
It doesnt work that way. Ever. JMVHO.email me
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09-02-2010, 12:36 PM #6
I actually reported a poster on a news site that suggested starting a protest in front of the Moulton's home; I've never reported anyone for anything before on a thread but that really scared me. What a stupid, thoughtless idea.Just my opinion, of course.
09-02-2010, 12:51 PM #7
vigilante n. someone who takes the law into his/her own hands by trying and/or punishing another person without any legal authority. In the 1800s groups of vigilantes dispensed "frontier justice" by holding trials of accused horse-thieves, rustlers and shooters, and then promptly hanging the accused if "convicted." A mother who shoots the alleged molester of her child is a vigilante.
mooPlease think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.
Democracy requires the occasional necessity of deferring to the opinions of other people. (Winston Churchill)
09-02-2010, 12:53 PM #8
I don't know anything about who is protesting or where they are protesting. I guess people get impatient and want to pressure people, but it's never going to work. Our legal system may not be perfect but causing more trouble is not the way fix it.
Let the wheels of justice turn, even if you lose patience or lose hope. What goes around comes around.
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It's better to know some of the questions than all of the answers. ~ James Thurber
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing ~ Edmund Burke
Why shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. ~ Mark Twain
09-02-2010, 02:14 PM #9
Man, this is such a high class site. Don't bother looking at the others. Foul language, insults hurled back and forth and intelligent sleuthing swallowed by rabid vitriol. I felt dirty and stupid when I happened upon those other sites (including some newspaper message boards). I don't feel that way here.
I'll admit I've taken Websleuths for granted. But posts like these remind me of all the hard work and dedication that go into keeping this a world class operation. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!For Travis Alexander, a human being.
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09-02-2010, 02:31 PM #10
Tricia thanks for your post along with all the others. This is NOT a good idea and this is about KYRON and KYRON only. Let the law do their job. That is why I like WS you do not let these things get out of hand. You respect everyone involved in a case and I appreciate that you don't allow sleuthing unless its been reported by MSM. Thank you for all that you do.
09-02-2010, 05:39 PM #11
We did this because it got so wild with the accusations and the sleuthing of innocent people that the moderators felt, and I agreed, that we had to curtail this. I have to give the credit for this extremely good rule to our wonderful mods. Thank you.
I am all for sleuthing. It is pretty obvious since Websleuths.com is my full time job. It's all I do. But I think we all would want others to be careful about what they say if we found ourselves, by no fault of our own, caught up in a high profile case.
I know not allowing discussions about people and situations until it hits the main stream media can be very frustrating but depending on the situation we can and do relax the rule a bit occasionally.
When Law Enforcement comes to me and asks about what we do at Websleuths the best way I describe it is like this;
"Imagine we are all gathered together in a room, we are given a certain amount of information, and then we spitball. Meaning we throw out ideas, theories, look up a information if we can, and we continue to discuss it until we have answers. One big giant spit-balling session with the entire universe all in one place. That's Websleuths.com"
If anyone here can think of a better way to describe what we do in just a few sentences feel free to post your thoughts here. Love to read what you write
Last edited by Tricia; 09-02-2010 at 06:23 PM.
09-02-2010, 05:51 PM #12
this will not help finding kyron
09-02-2010, 05:53 PM #13
just to clarify any type of protest will not help to find this sweet child
09-02-2010, 06:54 PM #14
09-02-2010, 07:15 PM #15
I must say I was quite shocked when I read this thread name and clicked to see what exactly this could possibly be all about. Shocked and confused would probably best describe my mixed emotions of reading such info. Shocked because as others ahead of me have so accurately and eloquently stated this IS NOT WHAT WEBSLEUTHS IS ABOUT. Confused because it[organizing of a protest] goes against everything in my short time of being here that I have come to understand and expect from the site as a whole, its owner, its mods, and its members/posters. This does not even resemble anything of the sort near what I know of the members/posters that I share part of each of my days with in discussing[and that includes NOT ALWAYS agreeing]and bringing forth what valuable insight that each of us as individuals contribute that together as a whole attempts to find the much needed answers to "bring Kyron home".
Each and every one of us have our own unique view of the info, situations, and actions that have taken place in Kyron's case. And I value each and every one of those unique views that belong to my fellow members/posters. I believe that we all serve a purpose in being here to not only search for the answers in Kyron's case but as a united front of many[and boy there are many of us]we can find the answers and the steps necessary to ensure that our children and our children's children are better protected from such tragic of situations such as Kyron's. This can be accomplished in various different ways from knocking down our state legislature's doors[figuratively NOT literally]to ensure the laws are fitting to the monsters[pedophiles]that share our sidewalks and their despicable crimes they inflict on our most innocent of children and even ensuring protection from adults whose role is to love, care and provide for them and by no choice of their own that adult is not meeting their needs and much worse in some cases..
It is people such as us, here at Websleuths who can make a difference in not only our own children and grandchildrens lives but all the children who are not as fortunate to have adults in their lives that are actively protecting them. These are the people that I have come to know and that I feel fortunate to share a part of my day with, NOT people who are selfishly looking for instant gratification in protesting in front of a home that IS NOT AND WILL NOT DO ONE OUNCE OF GOOD OR HELP IN "BRINGING KYRON HOME!"
PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT.PLEASE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON KYRON AND NOT THE SIDE CIRCUS TYPE ANTICS THAT WILL RESULT FROM FOLLOWING THRU WITH SUCH AS THIS ILL-FATED, DEAD-END PROTEST.
With much love and respect,
ETA~ As usual with all of my posts please forgive the long run-on sentences and misuse of punctuation... I've always sucked at grammatical errors.
Last edited by SmoothOperator; 09-02-2010 at 07:33 PM. Reason: ETA~My sucky grammarThe quickest way to become a fool is to argue with one..
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