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    Arrow Case Review #1: Thread #13: LE Press Conference Press Release: August 11 2010

    Case Review #1: Thread #13: LE Press Conference Press Release: August 11 2010

    Today's case review topic is the LE press conference and press release of Wednesday, August 11, 2010.

    This the last thread in this case review.


    Before beginning the Case Review, please read the Introductory thread here:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112566"]Introduction: Kyron Horman Case Review #1: LE Press Conferences & Releases[/ame]

    The first post in that thread explains the Case Review. The second post in that thread contains the Case Review schedule.

    Thread #1: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112614"]Kyron Horman Case Review #1: Thread #1: LE Press Conference & Release: June 5 2010[/ame]

    Thread #2: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112688"]Kyron Horman Case Review #1: Thread #2: LE Press Conference & Release: June 6 2010[/ame]

    Thread #3: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112811"]Case Review #1: Thread #3: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 7 2010[/ame]

    Thread #4: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112898"]Case Review #1: Thread #4: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 8 2010[/ame]

    Thread #5: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113029"]Case Review #1: Thread #5: LE Press Conferences & Releases: June 9 2010[/ame]

    Thread #6: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113041"]Case Review #1: Thread #6: LE Press Conferences & Releases: June 10 2010[/ame]

    Thread #7: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113090"]Kyron Horman Case Review #1: Thread #7: LE Press Conferences & Releases: June 11 2010[/ame]

    Thread #8: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113210"]Case Review #1: Thread #8: LE Press Conferences & Releases: June 12 2010[/ame]

    Thread #9: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113289"]Case Review #1: Thread #9: LE Press Conferences & Release: June 13 2010[/ame]

    Thread #10: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113429"]Case Review #1: Thread #10: LE Press Releases: June 14 - June 17[/ame]

    Thread #11: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113491"]Case Review #1: Thread #11: LE Press Conference & Releases: June 18 2010[/ame]

    Thread #12: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113780"]Case Review #1: Thread #12: LE Press Conference & Sheriff's Interview: July 2 2010[/ame]



    ** Please note that it's important, since we'll be reviewing a variety of information, that we don't turn this into a General Discussion thread, and cause more work for our mods. The goal is to look for new information, information that now has more meaning to us than it did earlier, and document it here, so let's stay focused!

    If we want to discuss possible meanings of what we find, let's do it in one of the discussion threads, so we can stay focused on our fact finding mission here.

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    Arrow Case Review #1: Thread #13: LE Press Conference & Press Release: Wed August 2010

    Case Review #1: Thread #13: LE Press Conference & Press Release: Wednesday August 2010

    ** August 11 MCSO Press Conference

    August 11 - Press Conference - Kyron_0811_2010
    http://www.kgw.com/video?id=97702674&sec=547977


    ** August 11 MCSO Press Release

    Kyron Horman Case Update Wednesday 8/11/10 - 08/11/10

    For clarification purposes please refer to the attached flier for date and approximate times of the specific details given during the press conference and requested assistance from the public. The approximate times may have been given wrong during the actual press conference.

    Thank you,

    Photographs and Information from 8/11/10 Press Conference.

    Thanks,

    Attached Media Files: 2010-08/1276/37434/081110_PressConferenceFlier.pdf:

    http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/im...renceFlier.pdf


    MCSO Website: http://www.flashalert.net/news.html?id=1276

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    Arrow Case Review Reference Link - August 11 News Articles

    Case Review Reference Link - August 11 News Articles

    The news articles for August 11 can be found in this Today's News thread in the Reference Forum:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111463"]2010.08.11 ~ TODAY's CURRENT NEWS ***No discussions please*** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]



    If you'd like to review the news articles for the dates between the last Case Review thread #12, which was for July2, and this case review thread, you can find links to them in the Today's News threads in the Reference Forum here:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=411"]Kyron Horman Reference and Time Line Forum[/ame]



    ** Please note that this thread is not for the news articles from July 3 through August 10. If you'd like to discuss the contents of those news articles, please search for an appropriate existing thread, or start a new thread.

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    Partial transcription from press conference video above:

    south parking lot

    At approx 14:04:

    Reporter: Can you tell us if these are staged photos or if (unintelligible)?

    DA: No further comment. Thank you.

    Reporter: And on this photo, are you asking for anyone who was parked in this, this parking lot to call about (a bit unintelligible - every make of their car?) that was parked there?

    Gates: Yes, that's what he was asking.

    Detective: What I want to identify is the parents, it's more likely going to be parents who were attending the science fair. Sometimes in an investigation you look through it with a different lens than you do the very first day that it occurs. When you go back and you rethink of all the events and the information you have, you see bits and pieces of the investigation that you need clarification on. This is simply one of these events that we're looking for clarification on. The parents, the guests, the staff only in the area that I have depict (sic) in the photograph. We'd like them to call the tip line.

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    Partial transcription from press conference video above:

    Witness or witnesses.

    The DA @ approx 13:28:

    (The DA points back toward the two school photos to his right, not the two Fred Meyer pics, which are on his left.)

    "There's a legitimate question about why, why do we have these pictures in these two locations. A witness or witnesses have come forward and provided us with information about a person or persons associated with that pickup truck at approximately those locations. We're looking for additional witnesses."

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    That is Kaine's truck used in the photos. If you look closely, you can see the stickers on the back.
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    I'm having some problems with the ustream video of the Aug 11 press conference. I found this additional video:


    Video: Watch the Kyron Horman news conference
    Published: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 10:47 AM
    Updated: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 12:46 PM

    The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office held a press conference at 11 a.m. Wednesday to release new case details in the Kyron Horman investigation.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...ron_hor_1.html

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    "Sources tell KGW the real focus of investigators is not on the pickup truck itself but rather on whether witnesses saw anyone with Terri Horman in the pickup as she moved around town that day."

    http://www.kgw.com/news/Sheriff-to--100446244.html
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    http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne...cMRkZKBxQ.cspx

    "We are looking for anyone who may have seen Terri in her white truck between 8:15 and 8:45 a.m. that day near the school," said Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill, who was the first person from the attorney's office to be present at a Kyron press conference."

    ***Wait a minute, Terri was seen outside between 8:15 and 8:45? I thought she was in the school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfieTX View Post
    http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne...cMRkZKBxQ.cspx

    "We are looking for anyone who may have seen Terri in her white truck between 8:15 and 8:45 a.m. that day near the school," said Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill, who was the first person from the attorney's office to be present at a Kyron press conference."

    ***Wait a minute, Terri was seen outside between 8:15 and 8:45? I thought she was in the school?
    The DA never said that. Video above. It's mis-reporting.


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    Presser at about 12:05, Gates says that they have the Major Crimes Team working on it full time, 7 days a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Partial transcription from press conference video above:

    south parking lot

    At approx 14:04:

    Reporter: Can you tell us if these are staged photos or if (unintelligible)?

    DA: No further comment. Thank you.

    Reporter: And on this photo, are you asking for anyone who was parked in this, this parking lot to call about (a bit unintelligible - every make of their car?) that was parked there?

    Gates: Yes, that's what he was asking.

    Detective: What I want to identify is the parents, it's more likely going to be parents who were attending the science fair. Sometimes in an investigation you look through it with a different lens than you do the very first day that it occurs. When you go back and you rethink of all the events and the information you have, you see bits and pieces of the investigation that you need clarification on. This is simply one of these events that we're looking for clarification on. The parents, the guests, the staff only in the area that I have depict (sic) in the photograph. We'd like them to call the tip line.
    ~~~to add~~~

    Reporter: Is that because the area is close to the school exit?

    DA: I can't comment any further on that.

    **my comment** I think that at this point, they have established for sure that Kyron was taken away by vehicle.
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    They are specifically looking for anyone who saw that truck, Kaine's truck, on the south side parking lot of the school between 8:15 and 8:45; at approx. 9:00 a.m. at the first Fred Meyer, Hillsboro, location, at approximately 10:00 at the 2nd, Beaverton, Fred Meyers. and on the various roads Skyline between Springville rd & Newbury rds and on or around Germantown rd or Old Germantown rd.



    The DA:

    "there's a legitimate question about why we have these pictures in these two locations. A witness, or witnesses, have come forward and provided us with information about a person, or persons, associated with that pick up truck at approximately those locations. We're looking for additional witnesses."

    He turns and is referring to the school images, while he's speaking about these pictures, not the FM pictures.


    This makes me wonder if these flyers are two-fold, first, trying to corroborate a witness(s) testimony of the truck sighting at the school, which they do say is the reason for that one. And the second to try to substantiate/discredit TH's story and time line regarding the FM visits and the driving around, as they do not refer to any "witness" seeing the truck at those locations, I'm assuming they placed the truck there via surveillance tapes. So since they know the truck was there, and they know TH was in the FM via her acquaintance who saw her there, WHAT are they looking for to have happened in the FM parking lot? Do you think they think that TH handed Kyron off to someone in broad daylight in a FM parking lot where there was surveillance?

    This statement from Gates speaks volumes to me:


    When asked about the surveillance footage from the FM's, gates says "we are examining a major ton of EVIDENCE"

    What evidence? They obviously know a WHOLE lot more than we do.

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    From presser at 15:50:

    Reporter: From the FM parking lot, I mean, a white truck is pretty generic from two months ago. Is there anything, you know, maybe someone saw something that didn't seem quite right. Can you expand a little bit on what you are looking for from people there?

    Gates: Anybody that, ahh, remembers seeing something that didn't seem quite right is exactly what we would like to hear about.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. ~ Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billylee View Post
    They are specifically looking for anyone who saw that truck, Kaine's truck, on the south side parking lot of the school between 8:15 and 8:45; at approx. 9:00 a.m. at the first Fred Meyer, Hillsboro, location, at approximately 10:00 at the 2nd, Beaverton, Fred Meyers. and on the various roads Skyline between Springville rd & Newbury rds and on or around Germantown rd or Old Germantown rd.



    The DA:

    "there's a legitimate question about why we have these pictures in these two locations. A witness, or witnesses, have come forward and provided us with information about a person, or persons, associated with that pick up truck at approximately those locations. We're looking for additional witnesses."

    He turns and is referring to the school images, while he's speaking about these pictures, not the FM pictures.


    This makes me wonder if these flyers are two-fold, first, trying to corroborate a witness(s) testimony of the truck sighting at the school, which they do say is the reason for that one. And the second to try to substantiate/discredit TH's story and time line regarding the FM visits and the driving around, as they do not refer to any "witness" seeing the truck at those locations, I'm assuming they placed the truck there via surveillance tapes. So since they know the truck was there, and they know TH was in the FM via her acquaintance who saw her there, WHAT are they looking for to have happened in the FM parking lot? Do you think they think that TH handed Kyron off to someone in broad daylight in a FM parking lot where there was surveillance?

    This statement from Gates speaks volumes to me:


    When asked about the surveillance footage from the FM's, gates says "we are examining a major ton of EVIDENCE"

    What evidence? They obviously know a WHOLE lot more than we do.
    They don't say anything about the white truck in regards to the south parking lot.

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