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    2010.09.14 - Deadlines Extended!?!

    CM went on for quite a bit about how they have had a PRIVATE status meeting with the court and have succeeded in extending some of the deadlines.

    Any idea what deadlines have been extended and on what grounds the extentions were granted?

    He had mentioned that the state turned over 8,000 new pages... Couldn't the defence have gone over to the sheriff's office and get the documents prior to the state handing them over? Is JB just complaining that someone didn't spoon-feed him the discovery?

    I thought that the judge in this case really was more firm and would not be extending dates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomo View Post
    CM went on for quite a bit about how they have had a PRIVATE status meeting with the court and have succeeded in extending some of the deadlines.

    Any idea what deadlines have been extended and on what grounds the extentions were granted?

    He had mentioned that the state turned over 8,000 new pages... Couldn't the defence have gone over to the sheriff's office and get the documents prior to the state handing them over? Is JB just complaining that someone didn't spoon-feed him the discovery?

    I thought that the judge in this case really was more firm and would not be extending dates.

    The only deadlines I was aware of, came after the scheduling conference on 8/30/10. Anything else is news to me.

    Here is HHJP's last order from 9/2/2010:

    http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hig...ial%20Date.pdf


    Here is the original order from May 7, 2010

    http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hig...205-7-2010.pdf
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    In part one of the news conference yesterday, CM almost bragged that they had the extension and that "you" (meaning the media) wouldn't know about that yet.

    I guess we will just have to wait and see.

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    This is probably not the right thread to ask this question, well maybe since it's about deadlines, but, what is the difference between the SA being allowed to or able to (or just actually doing) hold stuff "close to the vest", things they won't release until it's time for trial, and the accusation that they're withholding evidence?

    It's common knowledge that vital things are missing; Amscot video if there is one, Mark Hawkins and Mallory Parker interviews, didn't Lee ever talk to the FBI? Things like that. So are they not being released because they hold something vital to the Prosecution, or because somebody forgot or hasn't had time yet? I guess I just don't understand the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomo View Post
    CM went on for quite a bit about how they have had a PRIVATE status meeting with the court and have succeeded in extending some of the deadlines.

    Any idea what deadlines have been extended and on what grounds the extentions were granted?

    He had mentioned that the state turned over 8,000 new pages... Couldn't the defence have gone over to the sheriff's office and get the documents prior to the state handing them over? Is JB just complaining that someone didn't spoon-feed him the discovery?

    I thought that the judge in this case really was more firm and would not be extending dates.
    I thought Judge Perry said that both sides needed to comb through the files at the SO, making sure nothing had been missed. Maybe I misunderstood him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    I thought Judge Perry said that both sides needed to comb through the files at the SO, making sure nothing had been missed. Maybe I misunderstood him.
    Most likely not. Sounds better to act like they were being held back. And much later, they can go through it, and try to find at least 1 page not turned over..and claim they were being played false. When it would really mean that if the SA didn't catch it, then they don't have it either. <eye roll>
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    I thought Judge Perry said that both sides needed to comb through the files at the SO, making sure nothing had been missed. Maybe I misunderstood him.
    whiteangora, You did not misunderstand Judge Perry, he did say that.

    I don't suppose Baez and Mason mentioned that in their presser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnatcatcher View Post
    This is probably not the right thread to ask this question, well maybe since it's about deadlines, but, what is the difference between the SA being allowed to or able to (or just actually doing) hold stuff "close to the vest", things they won't release until it's time for trial, and the accusation that they're withholding evidence?

    It's common knowledge that vital things are missing; Amscot video if there is one, Mark Hawkins and Mallory Parker interviews, didn't Lee ever talk to the FBI? Things like that. So are they not being released because they hold something vital to the Prosecution, or because somebody forgot or hasn't had time yet? I guess I just don't understand the difference.
    Isn't the difference that State must release information as soon as it becomes available, but the FBI can take their sweet time releasing information to the SA, and even HHJP can't do anything about it?

    Speaking of evidence - we are STILL waiting, Mr. Baez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intermezzo View Post
    whiteangora, You did not misunderstand Judge Perry, he did say that.

    I don't suppose Baez and Mason mentioned that in their presser.
    I think all the "new" lawyers are an attempt to delay the trial - they "were not given" time to get up to speed. I still can't figure out why Casey gets TWO death penalty qualififed attorneys and ANOTHER medical expert (isn't that what LKB is?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    Isn't the difference that State must release information as soon as it becomes available, but the FBI can take their sweet time releasing information to the SA, and even HHJP can't do anything about it?

    Speaking of evidence - we are STILL waiting, Mr. Baez.
    FBi is not governed by Florida Law and therefore HHJP has no influence over them. So they can abide by Federal Law. I don't think Baez will EVER turn over any discovery to anyone - he doesn't HAVE to follow the law in his opinion. He can touch his client in jail, get warned and still do it again. Such hubris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaia713 View Post
    FBi is not governed by Florida Law and therefore HHJP has no influence over them. So they can abide by Federal Law. I don't think Baez will EVER turn over any discovery to anyone - he doesn't HAVE to follow the law in his opinion. He can touch his client in jail, get warned and still do it again. Such hubris
    Just to take it a step further, I don't think JB Has any discovery TO turn over. All he has is a lot of hot air and at least 3 more attorneys than he needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    Just to take it a step further, I don't think JB Has any discovery TO turn over. All he has is a lot of hot air and at least 3 more attorneys than he needs.

    Hahaha - I read your comment really quickly and thought you said all Baez has is a lot of hair, and was reminded that I am still questioning his hairline.

    But he did say on JVM that what he had to work with was really quite minimal, so he needed these experienced folk. I find his comment really observant and quite astounding. I didn't give him credit for such self knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    Just to take it a step further, I don't think JB Has any discovery TO turn over. All he has is a lot of hot air and at least 3 more attorneys than he needs.
    BBM - EXACTLY.

    I won't believe anything they say about "extended deadlines" until I see another court order.
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    Is it just me, or why would they need another deadline 2 years after Caylee passed. This is getting ridic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    Hahaha - I read your comment really quickly and thought you said all Baez has is a lot of hair, and was reminded that I am still questioning his hairline.

    But he did say on JVM that what he had to work with was really quite minimal, so he needed these experienced folk. I find his comment really observant and quite astounding. I didn't give him credit for such self knowledge.
    His hairline is quite..... shall we say unique? lol
    Hopefully by trials end it will be just a memory.
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