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    How would we know if TH was no longer the 'de facto' suspect?

    Many folks have said that the presser from 9/15 has led them to change their position slightly in that they think TH may be only a small piece of a larger scenario, or that she may have gotten over her head in another situation and set up, or many other theories.

    Her own lawyer called her a "de facto" subject.

    I'm wondering if you more experienced sleuthers, or anyone else, think we would ever see an indication of the focus coming off TH and how.

    Even if her lawyer wasn't told, would he, with his experience, feel a change in the tides, and loosen up the strings on TH? Would we maybe start to see her out and about a little? We don't know how visible LE is in tracking her- would a change be noticed?

    What do you all think- will we ever know if KH is never found and no case is presented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosysw View Post
    Many folks have said that the presser from 9/15 has led them to change their position slightly in that they think TH may be only a small piece of a larger scenario, or that she may have gotten over her head in another situation and set up, or many other theories.

    Her own lawyer called her a "de facto" subject.

    I'm wondering if you more experienced sleuthers, or anyone else, think we would ever see an indication of the focus coming off TH and how.

    Even if her lawyer wasn't told, would he, with his experience, feel a change in the tides, and loosen up the strings on TH? Would we maybe start to see her out and about a little? We don't know how visible LE is in tracking her- would a change be noticed?

    What do you all think- will we ever know if KH is never found and no case is presented?


    Thank you for a great post. To me...never to know will compound the tragedy.

    If there are so many loose ends or detectives still believe she did it (as in the Ramsey case) but the D.A. feels he cannot go to trial...Terri will remain in limbo.

    I can't imagine, believing in Terri's guilt now how Desiree and Kaine would reconcile seeing her escape punishment. Yet if Terri is innocent, she'll never have a normal life either. There is just enough out there, even if not enough to go to trial...that she'll live under suspicion the rest of her life.

    I wonder if Kaine or Desiree would eventually write a book?

    Or maybe someone will leave the investigation and write a book as happened in the Ramsey case detailing why the Ramsey parents were suspected though never charged. That could happen to Terri. Then Terri could write HER book.

    In fact, the case may become lot like Jon Benet's case. People continuing to believe one side or the other...no justice for the child...a lives forever under a cloud. We might hear more details then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosysw View Post
    Many folks have said that the presser from 9/15 has led them to change their position slightly in that they think TH may be only a small piece of a larger scenario, or that she may have gotten over her head in another situation and set up, or many other theories.

    Her own lawyer called her a "de facto" subject.

    I'm wondering if you more experienced sleuthers, or anyone else, think we would ever see an indication of the focus coming off TH and how.

    Even if her lawyer wasn't told, would he, with his experience, feel a change in the tides, and loosen up the strings on TH? Would we maybe start to see her out and about a little? We don't know how visible LE is in tracking her- would a change be noticed?

    What do you all think- will we ever know if KH is never found and no case is presented?
    I thoroughly, honestly, and truthfully believe if they cannot find any EVIDENCE, from plant genetics, to soil samples on the undercarriage of the truck, this case will NEVER be solved.

    TH, in my opinion, is the designated perp because, well just because certain parts of the economy may be negatively impacted, like in the Cummings case.

    Naturally, the above is just my uninformed opinion. I have no evidence, no proof, just a self-imagined ability to read between the lines.

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    LE would state emphatically that she had been cleared to protect themselves from a lawsuit.

    I mean, at the minimum I would think that TH would have a pretty good case to go after LE if she is obviously not involved and she has made sure that she has cooperated and cleared herself of scenarios that would have included her taking Kyron. JMVHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosysw View Post
    Many folks have said that the presser from 9/15 has led them to change their position slightly in that they think TH may be only a small piece of a larger scenario, or that she may have gotten over her head in another situation and set up, or many other theories.

    Her own lawyer called her a "de facto" subject.

    I'm wondering if you more experienced sleuthers, or anyone else, think we would ever see an indication of the focus coming off TH and how.

    Even if her lawyer wasn't told, would he, with his experience, feel a change in the tides, and loosen up the strings on TH? Would we maybe start to see her out and about a little? We don't know how visible LE is in tracking her- would a change be noticed?

    What do you all think- will we ever know if KH is never found and no case is presented?
    I really doubt it. I don't think LE is going to come out and say anything. They are not going to specifically rule anyone in or out until they announce an arrest.

    In so many cases where the suspicions were about one person LE never came to these people's rescue even though they turned out to be totally innocent when the real perpetrators were caught.

    LE has not been in contact with Terri since she obtained a lawyer. They have no reason to go to her attorney and tell him anything so he will continue to advise her to remain quiet.

    With one of the BTK victims the husband was a suspect for many years (20 years iirc) before BTK finally confessed he was the one that had really murdered this man's wife. So if there is no arrest now I am afraid Terri will be subjected to the same treatment until and if another suspect is arrested.

    I cant recall exactly what Staton said at first about the internet needs to be careful of what is said. (paraphrasing) but I have thought about his recent statements that we will look back on things we heard about early on and think about them later. I find that very intriguing. Is he saying there is a lesson to be learned in this case?

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    I do know that when asked specifically about information the news had received regarding the MFH, all Lt Linstrand would say is "That information did not come from us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    I thoroughly, honestly, and truthfully believe if they cannot find any EVIDENCE, from plant genetics, to soil samples on the undercarriage of the truck, this case will NEVER be solved.

    TH, in my opinion, is the designated perp because, well just because certain parts of the economy may be negatively impacted, like in the Cummings case.

    Naturally, the above is just my uninformed opinion. I have no evidence, no proof, just a self-imagined ability to read between the lines.
    But wouldn't plant genetics to soil samples on the undercarriage have to be matched to Kyron? For instance, she was on a number of rural, unpaved roads; I think she could argue she did a u-turn and the truck may have trampled on some foliage, the dirt on road was wet etc. I see reasonable doubt given where she said she was driving. Now if Kryon was found in area that matched, it would be another story...still circumstantial, but it would be highly regarded by the jury after adding whatever other evidence they may have IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee10 View Post
    But wouldn't plant genetics to soil samples on the undercarriage have to be matched to Kyron? For instance, she was on a number of rural, unpaved roads; I think she could argue she did a u-turn and the truck may have trampled on some foliage, the dirt on road was wet etc. I see reasonable doubt given where she said she was driving. Now if Kryon was found in area that matched, it would be another story...still circumstantial, but it would be highly regarded by the jury after adding whatever other evidence they may have IMO.
    Oh, I didn't realize that the roads from Skyline to the FM's, to the gym, and back home again were unpaved. I thought things were rough here in Montana!!!

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    Maybe I can ask this in this thread, as LE has said many times they have no suspects or POI's............are they still of that mind, has it changed, is it still everyone is of interest to them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by debs View Post
    I do know that when asked specifically about information the news had received regarding the MFH, all Lt Linstrand would say is "That information did not come from us."
    As in Multnomah? Or Tillamook or Washington County? Then perhaps it came from the FBI or Homeland Security or another jurisdiction....JMVHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee10 View Post
    But wouldn't plant genetics to soil samples on the undercarriage have to be matched to Kyron? For instance, she was on a number of rural, unpaved roads; I think she could argue she did a u-turn and the truck may have trampled on some foliage, the dirt on road was wet etc. I see reasonable doubt given where she said she was driving. Now if Kryon was found in area that matched, it would be another story...still circumstantial, but it would be highly regarded by the jury after adding whatever other evidence they may have IMO.
    I totally agree. When/if they find Kyron deceased (I really hope not), we will see what kind of mud/soil and or plant genetics show up. I've ofen wondered about all the new tests that show the ancestory of plants, type of mud, etc. To me it seems like a blend of Sherlock Holmes and God.

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    I would think that LE would come out in a presser and clear TH and DDS publicly.
    IMO, this case will take a long time to solve and maybe years before an arrest.
    I'm thinking of Susan Powell, Haleigh Cummings.........LE KNOWS, close people KNOW,
    but it is circumstantial right now..........LE needs proof and it is KYRON or a confession.
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    De facto is a Latin expression that means "by [the] fact". In law, it is meant
    to mean "in practice but not necessarily ordained by law" or "in practice or ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto
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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    De facto is a Latin expression that means "by [the] fact". In law, it is meant
    to mean "in practice but not necessarily ordained by law" or "in practice or ...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_facto
    So, let me get this straight - Terri is guilty "in practice by not necessarily ordined by law"?

    Does that mean she can be tried and put in jail "in practice", or do they need to follow guidelines "ordained by law"? What exactly does this mean to us?

    Thanks for the definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debs View Post
    Oh, I didn't realize that the roads from Skyline to the FM's, to the gym, and back home again were unpaved. I thought things were rough here in Montana!!!
    Sorry, I was referring to driving around Baby K and some of the roads LE wanted the footage from to my understanding some are unpaved, thinking of NW Logie for one. Maybe a local could clarify how many roads on that list are unpaved?


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