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    PA - Jewell, 50, & Betty Schirmer, 56, murdered by their husband, 1999 & 2008

    http://www.startribune.com/nation/10...UnciatkEP7DhUr

    This was on Nancy Grace tonight.
    Wife #1 he was married to for 30 years, 3 children.
    She died after a fall from a stairway.
    Wife #2 he was married to for 7 years no children.
    She died in a 'staged aurto accident'.
    Her blood found in the garage by the stairs.
    While married, he was engaged to his secretary.
    The secretarie's husband killed himself ???? in ministers office.
    Everything is being investigated now.
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    Wow! Amazing how someone can feel they are this far 'above the law', except that he should know better than most, that you can't escape the ultimate judgement! I am thankful this man now has to face charges!

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    I'm a minister's wife and would love to see a photo of this guy.....geez....

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    Here's a link about him turning in his credentials. People mourning Mrs. Shirmer.

    Why didn't my friend tell me about this. This up the Pocono's? Or is it in Lebanon?




    http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...9919/-1/NEWS01

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    http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbc...4/NEWS/9140337

    POCONO"S..............Filly

    and photo for shefner
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    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
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    A link from our Daily News today. Daughter Jewel is standing by her dad.

    Also step-son found a card to his mom from Shirmer apologizing and saying he hopes one day she will be free. The card was in a box of her personal effects Shirmer gave to him.






    http://www.philly.com/dailynews/nati..._one_wife.html

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    I wonder if he also was involved in the suicide of girlfriends husband.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeysmommom View Post
    I wonder if he also was involved in the suicide of girlfriends husband.
    On NG they had mentioned that.
    Also to see if the preacher misused his counseling to make the man kill himself.
    Something makes me think preacher may of been involved in more crimes.
    Real womanizer
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    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
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    JVM is covering this case tonight
    could he be a serial killer?????
    Niece of man that did suicide is on now.
    She is relieved that they are investigating preacher.
    She believes he killed wife 1.
    GF and minister are still 'in love' even with him behind bars.
    Preacher did marriage counseling to GF and suicide man.
    Suppose to help the couple while he was having an affair with the secretary!!!!
    Phycopath according to Michelle Golland.
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    Preacher never called 911.
    Airbag never deeployed.
    He was driving 20 miles an hour in wife #2.
    wife #2 playing a game to see how long she could keep her seatbelt off before it dinged???
    750 pounds of force to wife's head......like swinging a baseball bat!
    wife #1 injuries not consisant with a fall down the stairs.
    Pat Brown said check VERY CAREFULLY if man was a suicide.
    Neice says that Uncle's suicide has been reopened.
    after break we will find out what happened to wife #2 body........
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
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    suicide...no drugs, no note
    preacher and man were fighting on phone......

    wife #2 CREMATED....no evidence now.
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    perfect smoke screen to be a preacher!

    uncle was going to tell head of church about preacher the next day!
    Motive for preacher to kill man........
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    Passionflower, thanks for all the info about this case. I was actually at prayer meeting when JVM came on tonight! This pastor would certainly hold some responsibility for having an affair with the wife of the couple he was counseling, even if none of these other things had happened. How sad. I'm amazed at the level of support he seems to have at this point. I'm especially surprised to hear that the suicide victim's wife is still crazy about this "pastor!"

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