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    His Honor Judge Perry *Merged*

    We have seen Judge Perry in action for the last few months. Has he lived up to your expectations on how he has handled this case?

    I have to admit I am slightly disappointed. He has very good rulings and I feel he is being more than fair in his orders for both the Prosecution and the Defense. However we were told that Judge Perry is a no none sense Judge, yet he is using these court percedings to educate Baez on the law and he made it clear that his deadlines would be met, yet he extended the deadline for depositions.

    I think he is a fair Judge but no-nonsense, I'm not seeing it.
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    At it's core, the defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a "self aggrandizing media hound". Indeed. The irony is rich.

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    I think he's twigged to Baez's strategy of using the media to claim bias, unfairness etc and hopefully taint the jury pool. I think he's trying to minimise the number of excuses JB can throw out there - once the trial is underway, the 'no nonsense' side will be much more apparent!



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    I heart JP! He rocks! and rocks and rocks and rocks....



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    I absolutely adore and have the utmost respect for Judge Perry. If this man can weather the next 8-9 months humoring the ignorance and disorganization of JB w/o becoming completely unglued, he should be nominated for sainthood, imo. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    We have seen Judge Perry in action for the last few months. Has he lived up to your expectations on how he has handled this case?

    I have to admit I am slightly disappointed. He has very good rulings and I feel he is being more than fair in his orders for both the Prosecution and the Defense. However we were told that Judge Perry is a no none sense Judge, yet he is using these court percedings to educate Baez on the law and he made it clear that his deadlines would be met, yet he extended the deadline for depositions.

    I think he is a fair Judge but no-nonsense, I'm not seeing it.
    Pre-trial is different. Death is different. What you are seeing that seems to be his tolerance of nonsense is actually making sure the record is crystal clear and that there are no loopholes for appeal. He is likely to give the defense more latitude ... and some of his decisions appear to be more pro-defense, when actually they are spot on and he has given the defense no room for shenanigans (e.g., the TES records review). I think he has made some outstanding rulings while still insuring the record is safe from appellate issues.

    I agree that he is educating Baez during many of the hearings...however, I don't think he has a choice. He wants it in the record that there are NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS (e.g., "I don't like open-ended deadlines.") If you notice Judge Perry addresses Cheney Mason OFTEN and does everything he can to engage him. Judge Perry knows Baez is in wayyyyy over his head and I think he has done his best to not embarrass him publically. However, during the most recent status hearing I could tell that Judge Perry was very irritated with JB's disorganization and the fact that he comes to a status hearing KNOWING what will be expected and the man cannot give one simple, straight-forward answer. I do believe that the defense has pushed him just about as far as they are going to when it comes to deadlines. HHJP is a worker and he expects the same from the attorneys trying this case.

    I can tell that Judge Perry LOVES his profession and has great respect for the justice system. I believe he views Baez's 'mess' as being disrespectful to the Court. I think he is low on patience and will tolerate a lot (including ignorance), but not much more disrespect.
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    Love HHJP, I think he is giving JB and co, enough rope to hang themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    We have seen Judge Perry in action for the last few months. Has he lived up to your expectations on how he has handled this case?

    I have to admit I am slightly disappointed. He has very good rulings and I feel he is being more than fair in his orders for both the Prosecution and the Defense. However we were told that Judge Perry is a no none sense Judge, yet he is using these court percedings to educate Baez on the law and he made it clear that his deadlines would be met, yet he extended the deadline for depositions.

    I think he is a fair Judge but no-nonsense, I'm not seeing it.

    Judge Perry is a very experienced, fair and knowledgable Judge. He is considered to be the "go to" Judge for problem cases in Orange County.

    In addition to being well versed in Supreme Court rulings, he is also willing to use Judicial discretion appropriately.

    IMO, Judge Perry is not using the court proceedings to "educate" JB. He is stating things "for the record".

    A Judge has guidelines but none are set in stone unless they impact a legal decision. In order to be "fair" a Judge must weigh decisions such as extending a deadline against the rights of a defendant.

    As he has stated "death is different" he is using good judgement in allowing a certain amount of leeway. By doing so he eliminates an appellate issue down the road.

    While the defense was granted some extra time for some depos, Judge Perry held firm to the spirit of his ruling regarding deadlines.



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    I agree with all who believe that HHJP is simply trying to make sure that this trial can proceed to it's conclusion with no loopholes for JB to use later. When she is convicted, and I do believe she will be, JB will have no legal way out. HHJP is closing the roads that lead to appeal. JMO.




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    Your responses make me feel a little better.
    I guess I just expected Judge P to put his foot down and leave it down and Baez would either have to ship up or ship out, and he is still ho-humming around.
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    At it's core, the defense counsel's motion accuses the undersigned of being a "self aggrandizing media hound". Indeed. The irony is rich.

    Motion granted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefmom View Post
    I agree with all who believe that HHJP is simply trying to make sure that this trial can proceed to it's conclusion with no loopholes for JB to use later. When she is convicted, and I do believe she will be, JB will have no legal way out. HHJP is closing the roads that lead to appeal. JMO.
    In addition, I believe he will uphold the jurors decision for the DP if that is what they decide.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chefmom View Post
    I agree with all who believe that HHJP is simply trying to make sure that this trial can proceed to it's conclusion with no loopholes for JB to use later. When she is convicted, and I do believe she will be, JB will have no legal way out. HHJP is closing the roads that lead to appeal. JMO.
    I agree. He just patiently watches Baez blundering around and discreetly admonishes him. Then he gets stern and states clearly what he expects and when he expects it to be done. He is being somewhat forebearing at present, I think in order that there will be no wiggle room left for Baez to claim any loopholes when this is all done.



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    Quote Originally Posted by strach304 View Post
    In addition, I believe he will uphold the jurors decision for the DP if that is what they decide.
    Yes! I believe he will as well! If that is what the jury decides, I have no doubt he will sentence her to death. He continually reminds JB that this is a DP case and that death is different. I think that is his way of letting JB know that he better fight the good fight and get it right or his girl is gonna get a needle in her arm. MOO.




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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    Your responses make me feel a little better.
    I guess I just expected Judge P to put his foot down and leave it down and Baez would either have to ship up or ship out, and he is still ho-humming around.
    I totally understand the frustration.

    I didn't want the defense to get their hands on any of those TES docs, but Judge Perry made the right call. (And they still can't pull any stunts cause they are gonna be watched like pit bulls guarding their young )
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Beach View Post
    I absolutely adore and have the utmost respect for Judge Perry. If this man can weather the next 8-9 months humoring the ignorance and disorganization of JB w/o becoming completely unglued, he should be nominated for sainthood, imo. lol



    Pre-trial is different. Death is different. What you are seeing that seems to be his tolerance of nonsense is actually making sure the record is crystal clear and that there are no loopholes for appeal. He is likely to give the defense more latitude ... and some of his decisions appear to be more pro-defense, when actually they are spot on and he has given the defense no room for shenanigans (e.g., the TES records review). I think he has made some outstanding rulings while still insuring the record is safe from appellate issues.

    I agree that he is educating Baez during many of the hearings...however, I don't think he has a choice. He wants it in the record that there are NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS (e.g., "I don't like open-ended deadlines.") If you notice Judge Perry addresses Cheney Mason OFTEN and does everything he can to engage him. Judge Perry knows Baez is in wayyyyy over his head and I think he has done his best to not embarrass him publically. However, during the most recent status hearing I could tell that Judge Perry was very irritated with JB's disorganization and the fact that he comes to a status hearing KNOWING what will be expected and the man cannot give one simple, straight-forward answer. I do believe that the defense has pushed him just about as far as they are going to when it comes to deadlines. HHJP is a worker and he expects the same from the attorneys trying this case.

    I can tell that Judge Perry LOVES his profession and has great respect for the justice system. I believe he views Baez's 'mess' as being disrespectful to the Court. I think he is low on patience and will tolerate a lot (including ignorance), but not much more disrespect.
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    "His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law." (Thank you to TWA) Read their opinion here: http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/d...ps/sc95855.pdf



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