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    Hearing 10/1/2010

    Here is the synopsis of what happened:

    *New indictments from the grand jury were entered for both Nancy and Phil. The older case was not dismissed so that there are now two parallel cases in the courts. The older case will be dismissed at some point, but not today.

    *Nancy entered a "not guilty" plea to the new indictments.

    *Phil declined to enter a plea since his competency is now in issue. The DA argued that the judge should enter a plea of "not guilty" on behalf of Phil, but the judge declined. The arraignment of Phil was continued to 11/4/2010 until the judge can be convinced that he v=can enter a plea on Phil's behalf.

    *Tapson confirmed that Jaycee DID testify personally before the Grand Jury. He said that this information came not from the transcripts (which are sealed), but from another source.

    *DA Peirson stated afterward that he went the grand jury route to try to expedite the case and to spare Jaycee from testifying in open court at this time.

    *Katie Calloway-Hall and her husband attended this hearing. She stated afterward that Phillip was obviously competent since he hid three victims for eighteen years sucessfully from LE and parole officers. She also stated that this is the sort of tricks that he used when facing trial for the attack against her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie View Post
    Here is the synopsis of what happened:

    *New indictments from the grand jury were entered for both Nancy and Phil. The older case was not dismissed so that there are now two parallel cases in the courts. The older case will be dismissed at some point, but not today.

    *Nancy entered a "not guilty" plea to the new indictments.

    *Phil declined to enter a plea since his competency is now in issue. The DA argued that the judge should enter a plea of "not guilty" on behalf of Phil, but the judge declined. The arraignment of Phil was continued to 11/4/2010 until the judge can be convinced that he v=can enter a plea on Phil's behalf.

    *Tapson confirmed that Jaycee DID testify personally before the Grand Jury. He said that this information came not from the transcripts (which are sealed), but from another source.

    *DA Peirson stated afterward that he went the grand jury route to try to expedite the case and to spare Jaycee from testifying in open court at this time.

    *Katie Calloway-Hall and her husband attended this hearing. She stated afterward that Phillip was obviously competent since he hid three victims for eighteen years sucessfully from LE and parole officers. She also stated that this is the sort of tricks that he used when facing trial for the attack against her.
    Thanks again Dr. Doogie you are so devoted to see this through.

    I would like to see the Judge be changed.
    It seems to everyone that PG is good at his games.
    Why is it we have such horrible judges?
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    Thank-you for that report.

    According to Fox40 Sacramento today:
    Among the allegations are that the couple produced child pornography with the victim.

    Posters long ago speculated about this and apparently they were right. Man, I was hoping they were wrong.

    Just seeing this in print makes my blood boil. Here's hoping the jury feels the same way.

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    They didn't release the indictment in court, but posted it online about a half hour after the hearing. As a result, I had not heard that detail - and it makes me sick to think about.
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    Just read the indictments.

    Apparently these degenerates videotaped their actions for the years, 1991, 1992, 1993 & 1/2 of 1994.

    No wonder both are trying different defenses - the state has them dead to rights. They have to be desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina1441 View Post
    Just read the indictments.

    Apparently these degenerates videotaped their actions for the years, 1991, 1992, 1993 & 1/2 of 1994.

    No wonder both are trying different defenses - the state has them dead to rights. They have to be desperate.
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    Desperate? then why is the moron judge not clear?
    I am not sure what is going on in the justice system,
    But they should be desperate and know they are doomed to be behind bars forever.
    I was hoping that is not true, But the stories about parties in the back yard had me wondering,
    I hope JC does not have to talk in front of people about that.
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    Post Jaycee Dugard case: Garridos indicted, prosecutors say they have video evidence

    By John Simerman
    Contra Costa Times
    Posted: 10/01/2010 05:23:54 PM PDT
    Updated: 10/01/2010 10:46:47 PM PDT
    Phillip and Nancy Garrido raped Jaycee Dugard twice the day they abducted her from her South Lake Tahoe neighborhood, then repeatedly throughout her childhood years, and Phillip Garrido recorded the sex acts on video through the early part of Dugard's first pregnancy at age 14, according to details in an 18-count indictment released Friday.
    The grand jury indictment, filed Sept. 21, will spare the victim from testifying at a preliminary hearing in the case against the couple. It replaces 29 charges that prosecutors filed within days of the Garridos' Aug. 26, 2009, arrest.
    The revelation of the video evidence is new.
    Dugard, two El Dorado County investigators and Contra Costa County sheriff's Detective Garrett Schiro testified before the grand jury.
    The indictment includes counts of kidnapping, forcible rape, and several counts of forcible lewd acts upon a child, enumerated by date range. It also includes a child pornography count and eight special allegations against the couple, as well as five more against Phillip Garrido related to his past sexual crimes. more at link: http://www.contracostatimes.com/bay-...nclick_check=1
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    When I read about the videos I wanted to puke. The court document also mentioned sodomy, oral sex, and mutual masturbation. At least I hope this ends the idea that Nancy was a victim. It does now sound like she did participate. I wonder why it took so long for the knowledge of the videos to come to light. There isn't anything more that they could have done to this child. I don't know how Jaycee survived this. It is so unbelievable that Nancy actually thinks that Jaycee and the girls should visit her. Maybe she is the insane one. Actually I believe that they are both very sane but evil. If he turned his life around like he claims why wouldn't he destroy the videos. I have a sick feeling that he probably watched these videos for years after he actually stopped raping her. This case is the worse of the worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYGIRL View Post
    When I read about the videos I wanted to puke. The court document also mentioned sodomy, oral sex, and mutual masturbation. At least I hope this ends the idea that Nancy was a victim. It does now sound like she did participate. I wonder why it took so long for the knowledge of the videos to come to light. There isn't anything more that they could have done to this child. I don't know how Jaycee survived this. It is so unbelievable that Nancy actually thinks that Jaycee and the girls should visit her. Maybe she is the insane one. Actually I believe that they are both very sane but evil. If he turned his life around like he claims why wouldn't he destroy the videos. I have a sick feeling that he probably watched these videos for years after he actually stopped raping her. This case is the worse of the worse.
    I have to be very honest, but I could not bring myself to read that link....I heard it had that kind of info in it.
    I am thrilled for JC that it was not out all along.

    Spare this child some dignity.
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    I don't know how Terry has been able to deal with the knowledge of all the terrible things that were done to her daughter when she was a child. I don't know how she has been able to control her anger. I'd want to go after those two now and get my own justice. I feel like it sometimes and Jaycee isn't even my own daughter. Terry is an amazing person espically after hearing about the videos. She must be hugging Jaycee and those girls a lot.


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    For 11-4-2010, the El Dorado Court has scheduled for ng- a Readiness & Settlement /Further Proceedings

    Never heard of this.

    Does anyone think a plea deal is in the works with this female sex offender?

    Could this be why this female degenerate was smiling & laughing in court last Friday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina1441 View Post
    For 11-4-2010, the El Dorado Court has scheduled for ng- a Readiness & Settlement /Further Proceedings

    Never heard of this.

    Does anyone think a plea deal is in the works with this female sex offender?

    Could this be why this female degenerate was smiling & laughing in court last Friday?
    She might want a plea, but I see no reason for them to offer her one... they have plenty of evidence against Phil without her, and apparently she was a willing participant in his deviancy, even if he was the leader.
    Not sure what she can offer for a plea, Jaycee and girls are alive, unless she knows where the remains of other potential victims are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    She might want a plea, but I see no reason for them to offer her one... they have plenty of evidence against Phil without her, and apparently she was a willing participant in his deviancy, even if he was the leader.
    Not sure what she can offer for a plea, Jaycee and girls are alive, unless she knows where the remains of other potential victims are.

    I absolutely agree with you on the amount of evidence they have against the female sex offender.

    But I have a suspicious mind.

    So when I read in the Las Vegas Sun on 10-3-2010:
    Stephen Tapson, Nancy Garrido's court-appointed lawyer, said outside court that he heard from a juror that Dugard spent a full day before the panel and that her testimony brought many in attendance to tears.

    I thought who would leak that info to the defense attorney? Maybe a DA who wanted to underscore the losing battle of a trial?

    The first count of the indictment is kidnapping 6/10/1991 thru 8/26/2009 by " forcibly and by instilling fear, steal, take, hold, detain & arrest."

    Wouldn't the defense attorneys call the 2 girls to be witnesses to try & rebut or mitigate this 1st count?

    Jaycee & her family have shielded the 2 girls this past year. With a trial they would be thrusted full force into the public eye.
    Wouldn't a mother want a plea for the degenerate rather than risk the emotional well- being of her daughters?

    As for other victims of Garrido....sorry but forget about it. I don't believe the state of money-strapped California would want to find more Garrido victims & risk another lawsuit with a potential catastrophic verdict.

    Plus is anyone impressed with the quality of law enforcement in Contra Costa County? I just don't think they could find a black barn in a snowy field.

    And that is so sad because I believe that there are other Garrido victims.

    Gads. Sorry for the long post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nina1441 View Post
    I absolutely agree with you on the amount of evidence they have against the female sex offender.

    But I have a suspicious mind.

    So when I read in the Las Vegas Sun on 10-3-2010:
    Stephen Tapson, Nancy Garrido's court-appointed lawyer, said outside court that he heard from a juror that Dugard spent a full day before the panel and that her testimony brought many in attendance to tears.

    I thought who would leak that info to the defense attorney? Maybe a DA who wanted to underscore the losing battle of a trial?

    The first count of the indictment is kidnapping 6/10/1991 thru 8/26/2009 by " forcibly and by instilling fear, steal, take, hold, detain & arrest."

    Wouldn't the defense attorneys call the 2 girls to be witnesses to try & rebut or mitigate this 1st count?

    Jaycee & her family have shielded the 2 girls this past year. With a trial they would be thrusted full force into the public eye.
    Wouldn't a mother want a plea for the degenerate rather than risk the emotional well- being of her daughters?

    As for other victims of Garrido....sorry but forget about it. I don't believe the state of money-strapped California would want to find more Garrido victims & risk another lawsuit with a potential catastrophic verdict.

    Plus is anyone impressed with the quality of law enforcement in Contra Costa County? I just don't think they could find a black barn in a snowy field.

    And that is so sad because I believe that there are other Garrido victims.

    Gads. Sorry for the long post.
    This one thing I particularly disagree about. I live very close to Ilene Misheloff's parents. I see them from time to time walking their dog around my neighborhood. Do you really think they wouldn't be grateful to get some kind of closure about her in a heartbeat???
    This is the year to locate Mark Dribin http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=Mark+Dribin NamUs MP#876 and Ilene Misheloff http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...lene+Misheloff NamUs MP#6410 and bring them home to their families!

    Parents watch your children. Free-range parenting leads to more child victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    This one thing I particularly disagree about. I live very close to Ilene Misheloff's parents. I see them from time to time walking their dog around my neighborhood. Do you really think they wouldn't be grateful to get some kind of closure about her in a heartbeat???
    Whoa. With all due respect, I have no idea how my post ended up with the Misheloffs.

    My post was directed NOT towards any individual private citizen but towards the state of California being able & willing to allocate resources to investigate possible Garrido victims.

    My post was also directed towards local county law enforcement- again not towards individual citizens

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