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Construction workers digging in the back yard on Tuesday of a Manoa home on Oahu Avenue found a sock that appeared to have the bones of a foot and leg attached. ...

... the body is that of a Caucasian man who suffered gunshot wounds to the head.
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Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Age: 30-55
Height: 5'4" to 5'6"

http://www.kitv.com/r/25277540/detail.html
 
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/360dmhi.html

Too tall by 3 inches, but I really wish it was him so his family could have him back.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1804dmhi.html

No height for Ruben.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1220dmhi.html

No height listed for Tim

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1723dmhi.html

I'm not familiar with the above missing man.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2136dmhi.html

Race not indicated, no height either.

Those are the older archived ones.

We had a male that fits the age range go missing this summer (since I've been here) he has a thread I'll try to find it. I don't recall his height though.

They haven't given a time frame. Honolulu is on the Island of Oahu if anyone doesn't know. Most people do.
 
That does sound like some very vintage clothing. I suspect they misread the label on the pants due to deterioration and it was really "Panatela," which appears to be a sub-brand of Levi's. Here's some images I found online.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/38824214/levis...ture-collection
http://www.vintage70sclothing.com/Mens/Pants/12090d.htm

Also, white tube socks with blue trim (do they mean stripes?) were popular in the 1970s and 1980s, nearly impossible to find for years after that, then sold again briefly as retro reproductions in the 2000s when the 1970s look came back into style, and they are hard to find once more, at least around here.

Kat suggested him already, but Rick Calhau seems the most likely to me. He was last seen less than eight miles from where the remains were found. No height listed but at 29 he was only a year younger than the lower age estimate for the UID. No explanation of the '70s-style clothing, though.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/calhau_rick.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1723dmhi.html
 
I did some searching last night. I don't see any males listed in a missing persons data base here for HI.

Off Topic:

There is a current problem with missing persons being listed publicly on a few of the Islands. No access to the lists for the most part. For example: Maui has a list of about 60+ people that have gone missing over the past few decades that their names can not be found publicly listed. On the Big Island there were 16 children that could not be located this year, by the foster agency. I'm not sure why this is such a problem here. It alarms me a bit.

Back on topic, watched the evening news last night. No new details were given.
 
From Feb 10 2011

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/...n_Manoa_likely_date_to_1980s_police_say.html#

Police say they now believe the man was likely to have been killed in the 1980s, said HPD spokeswoman Michelle Yu.

Investigators, who had sent the remains to the military Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command, initially believed the man died in the 1970s. Yu declined to discuss why investigators now believe the murder happened in the later decade.

"At this point, there are indications that this probably happened in the '80s," she said.

HPD's Missing Persons Detail has in recent months gone through each of the outstanding missing persons cases in both the 1970s and 1980s and has not been able to find a match, Yu said.
...

Police are continuing to ask the public's help in identifying the man, described as 30 to 55 years old, between 5 feet 6 inches tall, with a medium build, Levi's Panatela pants that were popular from the 1960s to the '80s, a dark-colored shirt and white tube socks with blue trim. The man had gunshot wounds to his head.
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snipped from link above:

Police declined to say how many missing cases they looked at, but it likely isn't very many. Over the last five years, there have been between 552 and 788 missing persons reported annually. But only between zero and nine of the cases from each of those years remain open, HPD said.
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If this man isn't id'ed by the military joint command IMHO he won't ever be identified.

In fact, I am surprised we are even getting a follow up on this case.

The state of HI sweeps missing persons cases under the rug because of the tourist industry and the impact it would have on it JMHO.

TY for the update donjeta
 
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Likeness of murder victim created in hope of solving decades-old case

Honolulu police detectives are hoping to draw leads on a mysterious, decades-old murder by releasing photos of a clay likeness of the victim's head.

The skeletal remains of the man were found in October by construction workers who first unearthed a sock that contained what appeared to be a human foot and leg bones while digging in the backyard of a Manoa residence.

An excavation later revealed a body, partially under a concrete slab, with three gunshot wounds in the head.

Various clues point to the body being more than 3 decades old. The man's remains were the only ones found on the site, police said.

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The skull, which was partially damaged by the bullet wounds, was reconstructed by the military's Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command. A copy was sent to the police Scientific Investigation Section, which put a face on the skull.

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Police believe the man died no earlier than 1982 because a coin in his pocket was from that year, she said.

He appeared to be in his 40s or 50s, and was 5 feet 6 inches to 6 feet tall, Buffett said. He was wearing Levi Panatela pants, a dark polo shirt and white tube socks with blue trim.
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Read More:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/...eated_in_hope_of_solving_decadesold_case.html
 
Police Fielding New Leads on Murder Victim

Honolulu police detectives received "20-plus" calls in the day or so after the release of photos of a clay likeness based on the skull of a man murdered about 30 years ago and buried in a Manoa Valley yard.

Only one of the calls came from out of state, and some came from the neighbor islands, said Sgt. Kim Buffett, Honolulu CrimeStoppers coordinator.

"There were a lot of names thrown out there, so the detectives are working on calling these people back and finding further information," she said.

Homicide detectives are looking into each of the leads, Buffett said, and she encouraged the public to call in tips. The CrimeStoppers line is 955-8300.
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Read More:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/...ice_fielding_new_leads_on_mystery_murder.html
 
This UID is known to have died between 1982 and 2010 when he was discovered - he has 1982 coins in his pocket. Not many HI cases listed in Namus MPs.
 
I came across this case mentioned online somewhere. I'd think they would have looked into who owned the house during that time period ( It could have been multiple owners?). It might have been rented and it's possible at this point in time it is unknown who rented it then. Hmm. A concrete slab points to definite efforts to cover the remains up and probably wasn't something a renter could easily get away with doing. But who knows. Genetic genealogy could very likely ID this guy now.
 
Bumping the thread and adding the info from John Doe's NamUs page, since some details have been updated since the thread was started.

John Doe's age range has been narrowed to 40-57 instead of 30-55. They've added detailed descriptions of his clothing and some information about his medical conditions. It sounds like he might have suffered from some pretty serious hip and leg pain due to periostitis in multiple bones.

Also, his year of death has been narrowed down to 1982 exactly. Earlier it was stated that he died no earlier than 1982 (because of coins in his pocket), but now it also says that his remains were there "prior to 1983" - perhaps they were able to learn exactly when the concrete slab was laid.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Demographics

Sex Male

Race / Ethnicity White / Caucasian
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 60
Estimated Age Range (Years) 40-57

Estimated Year of Death 1982

Estimated PMI 28 Years

Height 5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated

Weight Cannot Estimate


Circumstances

Type Unidentified Deceased

Date Body Found September 28, 2010

NamUs Case Created November 20, 2013

ME/C QA Reviewed--

Location Found Map

Location Honolulu, Hawaii 96822

County Honolulu County

GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Circumstances of Recovery Skeletal remains were found buried behind a house in Honolulu, Hawaii on 09/28/2010. The remains were likely there prior to 1983, according to investigators.

Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains All parts recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Near complete or complete skeleton


Physical Description

Hair Color Unknown

Head Hair Description None

Body Hair Description None

Facial Hair Description None

Left Eye Color Unknown

Right Eye Color Unknown

Eye Description None

Distinctive Physical Features

Other distinctive physical characteristic

degenerative disease, possibly DISH, is observed throughout the spine, sacroiliac join and extraspinal sites
well-developed maxillary torus along the midline of the palate
two large well-developed mandibular tori along the lingual border of the mandible
periostitis on the innominates, left femur and the tibiae





Clothing and Accessories
Accessories
Goody brand name comb found in back right pocket of trousers
14 U.S. quarters, mint dates range from 1965 to 1982
-- Near the Body


Clothing

Levi Panatela trousers, waist circumference approx 34 inches; brown in color (per Levi Strauss & Copy, Panatela produced from 1973 to 1979)
Blue ribbed fabric shirt; label at collar decomposed; short sleeve; four button placket; left breast pocket
White ribbed tube socks with three blue stripes at the top
Fruit of the Loom underwear; size medium 34-36; cotton; only the waistband remained
White handkerchief was in the back right pocket of trousers

-- On the Body


 

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snowgoose said:
degenerative disease, possibly DISH, is observed throughout the spine, sacroiliac join and extraspinal sites
well-developed maxillary torus along the midline of the palate
two large well-developed mandibular tori along the lingual border of the mandible
periostitis on the innominates, left femur and the tibiae
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Here's some additional info on DISH; sounds as if the ligaments calcify where attached to bone. May also help explain the bony growths in the mouth. Reading the link info this can be associated with endocrinal issues with the example provided as diabetes.

Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis (DISH)

snowgoose said:
14 U.S. quarters, mint dates range from 1965 to 1982
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This is also interesting to me. 14 quarters - laundry money, ante for a poker game, bus fare? The bus is a widely used mode of transportation on the island and the adult fare from 1979 until 1984 was 50 cents.
 
I like that the reconstruction shows what he might have looked like with various hairstyles and facial hair.

One exclusion:
MP19371 Craig Alexander 01/28/1985 Chittenden VT

Alexander went missing in 1985, so either he was ruled out before they decided on the 1982 death date, or they're not one hundred percent firm about it.
 
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