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  1. #1
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    Different girls, Same room. (Blue carpet, radio, records & Headphones)

    Why attempting to look at the backgrounds of all the photos I realized that some of the photo are taken in the same room - as posted below.

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    I put these photos together so you can better have an idea of the room (I feel horribly for pasting something over the blonde girl, so forgive me) - I just wanted to put the bits of that dresser (or whatever it is) together to get a better idea of the room.

    Last edited by punklove; 10-05-2010 at 05:31 AM.

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    Its hard to figure out how long the span was between these photos -

    #2 and #3 seem to be taken around/at the same time - the orange book on the shelf directly behind the blondes head in #3 is also in the same spot in the #2 photo.

    #1 and #6 could be around the same time - the shelf is moved much closer to the wall in both of the photos (you can tell by the actual distance between the wall and the top of the radio, as well as the poster behind the radio).

    I believe #4 is more than likely the first of these photos to have been taken in this room, you can see the lack of photos/posters on the wall that appear in all the others which makes me think he just moved in and was in the middle of putting his things up.

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    Was able to find another photo of the blonde which allowed me to piece them together to show more of the room. If you notice I was able to match up the glass on the dresser (or whatever) so it seems thats what the room would look like.

    I wonder if the martin paints box and the paint smears on what looks like a door have anything to do with each other? Who lets smeared paint dry on the floor?

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    Just found another -

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    Notice the orange book in the background there, along with the dresser and whatever that stand is thats between the dresser and the wall in the photos.

    Oddly, you dont see the carpet here - not sure what it is but it almost looks like a child's themed sheet on the floor where you see the carpet in the other photos.

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    Wouldnt let me edit the above - It looks to me that what is laying on the floor in the blonde's photo is the pillow in the first photo


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    Wow.
    Thank you.
    Do we know where this actually is? Which of his apartments?
    I can guess not Cali. due to none if these people seeming to have tans. Also the dress (especially the coat) suggest a cold climate, although I guess Cali does get cold in parts during the winter.
    I was no help, but thanks you for putting the pictures together.

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    At least we now know all the girls above were at least in the same area (that room).

    He was in cali until 1968, 1968-1971 he used name John Berger attended New York University.

    Since we know the Beatles cover wasnt released until late 1968 we know that the photos werent taken before that.

    I assume #6 was among the first photos to be taken (not nearly as much stuff hung on the wall)
    Last edited by punklove; 10-06-2010 at 05:54 PM.

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    The album in the background is Surrealistic Pillow by Jefferson Airplane, released in February 1967. That means the photo (at least of her) has to have been taken after that date. The ablum seems to be on the shelf in all the photos except #6

    The box has 'Martin Paints' on it but I cant find anything about it online - there is a Martin paints that merged with another company but Im unsure if its the same.

    Im sure the radio/clock/headphones could be dated too but I have no idea how to even BEGIN with that.

    The Beatles photos he has on the wall in most of these photos (Look at #1, the photos by the door) are from the white album - the four glossy photos where in all the copies of the white album, they were taken by John Kelley in the autumn of 1968.

    The album was released 11/22/1968 so we know that the photos that show those pictures were taken after that date.

    At the far left that paper says 'Celebrate Antiquity in Greenwich Village' no clue what that means but I think it may be something he tore out of the Village voice, this makes me think more than likely these photos are taken in New York, but who knows.

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    Due to the background I think photo number 2 and photo number 3 were taken in the same time frame.

    The cord coming from on top of the blue box, the orange book (i think its a book?) and the lamp are all in the same position.



    I noticed something on the blondes hand.. Anyone know what this is? It kind of looks like a pimple, but seems a strange place to get one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by punklove View Post

    ...Im sure the radio/clock/headphones could be dated too but I have no idea how to even BEGIN with that.
    Probably not much help anyway, the video recorder (the large unit with the clock) came out in 1965, so was probably a few years old.


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    Same Carpet

    This one looks like it had the same carpet and 'record holder' but the walls and floor are different.

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    The curtains behind her also match the curtains in the dark haired boy's pictures and the picture of the girl with the hat.
    In the girl with the hat you can also see the brick wall behind her.

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    I think the boy might also have the bricks behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punklove View Post
    Due to the background I think photo number 2 and photo number 3 were taken in the same time frame.

    The cord coming from on top of the blue box, the orange book (i think its a book?) and the lamp are all in the same position.



    I noticed something on the blondes hand.. Anyone know what this is? It kind of looks like a pimple, but seems a strange place to get one?

    Probably not a pimple..maybe a wart of some type...whatever it is, it was an identifiable marking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fmw63 View Post
    Probably not much help anyway, the video recorder (the large unit with the clock) came out in 1965, so was probably a few years old.
    Thanks! I actually do think its helpful because the more things that we can date in the photo the better chance we have at making a timeline, If we know the recorder came on in 1965 we know the photo was taken after that.. The album that had the photos on the wall was released late 1968 so we know the photo is after that, ect.

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    I looked for Martin Paints and found an orbituary that mentions someone who owned it until 1973 in NJ http://newstranscript.gmnews.com/new...ra_Broner.html

    I also found it in an online newpaper in Eatontown NJ in the 60's and early 70's you can go here and search those dates. http://209.212.22.88/search.htm

    Not sure if that could put the location in NJ or if just the box came from there.

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    It looks like they had Martin Paint Store in New York too and the box says factory ship to you, so I guess that really doesn't help. I did wonder about Lulaida Morales Sejalbo when I saw the girl in the plaid hat. CA CA - Lulaida Morales Sejalbo, 17, Santa Clara, 1973 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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