No, baby K is not safe around TH
Yes, baby K needs her mother
Yes, there is not proof that TH committed any crime
Yes, but only under supervision
No. She will try to kidnap baby K and it will end badly.
No, she will manipulate baby K during these visits
No, there is reason to believe TH committed a crime
Yes, maybe it will trigger something and get her to finally talk.
""The issue is not going to be whether the child's mother, Terri deserves to see the child. The issue is what does the child need and how can we be sure the child's needs are being met," said family law attorney Jody Stahancyk.
Kaine Horman has mixed feelings about visitation, "Depending on the circumstances, the answer could be yes or no." <snipped>
Should TH be able to see baby K? Vote and discuss!
To me, the issue is whether the baby has a right to see and spend time with her mother. It's not about Terri to me. It's about the baby.
No ... There is a risk factor there as far as I am concerned, I think TH would flee or worse....jmo
What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
Ralph Waldo Emerson ~
I think she (the baby) should be allowed to see her mother, with supervision. This baby had spent most of her life with Terri, and in the event that Terri is eventually cleared, it would be shame if she no longer recognized her mother.
This is a case that could have movement at any moment, or could take years.
Just my opinion, of course.
I wavered between no, not safe and yes, with supervision. Ultimately, I voted yes. We don't know yet if baby K is safe with Terri, because we don't know what happened to Kyron. But SINCE we don't know that, I'd say any visitation should proceed with extreme caution.
IMO, the baby must be doing fine.
I'm sure LE and others are looking into the raising of the baby.
After 4 months and with baby being so young, I do not think she realizes she has no mother.
[I]My own neice's mother died when she was 18 months and she has no problems being without a mother in her 30+ years.
Oh yes, there were times she wished for a mother,
like when she got married, when she had her sons, etc.
her dad never remarried[I]
Children do adjust.
I would rather baby was safe than be with a mother that could and might hurt her.
I would need proof that TH never did MFH and KYRON's disappearance before I would let her near her baby.
I vote NO right now.........
Last edited by passionflower; 10-08-2010 at 10:10 PM. Reason: vote
Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
Justice for Hailey!!!!
No Justice for Caylee Marie..........
Not at this time.
I believe this newest attempt at a new approach by her attorneys is to try to force information out of LE. They did not contest the Restraining Order. It is legal maneuvering and the way I see it not at all about K.. but about what her attorneys want from LE.
Let the Kyron case go forward and then look at the issue down the road depending on the outcome.
In that the judge granted 90 day abatement they can't ask for amendment at this time anyway.
ETA: Baby K has already made a big adjustment and having that change constantly is not good for a small child.
Last edited by grandmaj; 10-08-2010 at 10:16 PM.
The baby also has a right to be protected from someone who could bring her great harm.
So to me, the issue is about the baby, and if she has adjusted so well, why jeopardize that with visitations, supervised or not?
No way Jose!!!!!!
TH is not stable and has already tried to "see" or "steal" Baby K one time at the Gym.
As of right now, I say no. Not even with armed guards standing 2 feet from them.
WHERE IS KYRON?????
Okay, I talked myself into no. Although I'm not happy about it. Just so sad all the way around
No way! OMG! NO!
That said, baby K probably doesn't remember Terri anyway.
He!! To The No!!!! Kaine wants to see his son too JMO
My Beautiful Precious , I miss you so much!
I voted "Yes, with supervision." I mean, why not? BabyK probably misses her mommy. The supervision would be to keep Terri from snatching BabyK and running off with her. If the baby were an older child, I might not agree with visitation.
Even supervised visits are not always the answer. I'd be afraid until it is determined if Terri is involved with Kyron's disappearance, that any visitation even supervised should not be allowed for safety reasons for K. We already have one missing child.
Anyone remember the Clark Rockefeller case? He claimed to be from the aristocratic family and was not, is suspected of murdering two people, fled to the US and took on a new Alias, and on a supervised visit he knocked down the man supervising the visit and took off on the run with his daughter. Just like in this case people described him as being a little different, cool, aloof but they were so surprised that he had done this.
She probably doesn't miss Terri, because 4 months is much to long for her to even remember Terri, at her age.
She disappeared Kyron, possibly to get at Kaine! Well Terri, how does it feel, to be without your child? KARMA!!
I answered NOT SURE. I am torn between that and with very strict supervision at all times in a nuetral place that is impossible to exit with a child unauthorized.
But despite the fact that there is a very uncomfortable fencerail up my Butt and has been for months, I think above all - Baby K's safety must ourweight her need for her mother and vice versa.
Five years ago I wandered in here because of a google search on Haleigh Cummings. "Welcome," folks said "look around a bit, sit a spell." It wasn't long before I found Caylee's threads. It was just that simple.
If you are new to the site allow me to say, "welcome. Look around a bit, sit a spell."