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    Quote Originally Posted by Macright View Post
    I think I would rather believe the quote someone mentioned in one of the news articles in reference to Hector from Silence of the Lambs.."nothing happened to me..I happened"..

    This guy seemed to function well throughout his career...hiding his "other side" as most have stated that they "saw nothing out of the ordinary" but then they would have to say that because they were the ones who kept promoting him. This guy outsmarted everyone...well not everyone because he was caught eventually... Pure evil and I don't blame Mommy or Daddy no matter what their lifestyle...
    LOL, although fiction, Hector himself was not very perceptive .. he was a nice kid until his sister was murdered.

    I'm not laying blame for RW's crimes on his parents or anyone's doorstep but his. We were discussing events in his life that may have been emotional experiences. If he just "happened" or was born "pure evil", then there is nothing to analyze about his life or find what makes him tick.

    I was reading some of Bundy's words prior to his execution:

    from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy

    During the interview, Bundy made repeated, previously unclaimed statements regarding the pornographic "roots" of his crimes. Bundy stated that while pornography did not cause him to commit murder, the consumption of violent pornography helped "shape and mold" his violence into "behavior too terrible to describe." He alleged that he felt that violence in the media, "particularly sexualized violence," sent boys "down the road to being Ted Bundys." In the same interview, Bundy stated:

    “ You are going to kill me, and that will protect society from me. But out there are many, many more people who are addicted to pornography, and you are doing nothing about that.
    Would be interesting to know when RW's penchant for porn started.
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    This is on the front page of the Ottawa Citizen online:
    Mary Elizabeth Harriman
    Apology
    A story and headline on page A4 of yesterday's Ottawa Citizen may have left the impression that Mary Elizabeth Harriman, the wife of Colonel Russell Williams, had knowledge of the criminal actions of her husband. The story did not intend to suggest she had any knowledge of his criminal actions and the Citizen retracts and apologizes for the implication.
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/to...abeth+Harriman

    Someone must have complained to get a written apology!


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    I would imagine at this point that MEH has very little in her life that allows her to feel empowered (even more difficult for someone who has a position where they are in "control"). Maybe it's her attempt at exerting whatever power/control she can in any area of her life. Wouldn't be surprised if her day-to-day existence right now isn't being handled primarily by advice from shrinks and lawyers.


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    Judging from this account,rw could be controlled by the right " little lady".

    The juxtaposition was striking. He hovered around 6 feet, with a wiry build from all his squash, tennis and jogging. She was a student from Japan, more than a foot shorter.

    But in her company the “Drill Sergeant” seemed to be drained of his authority, the roommates say. He was a different person with her around.

    “She ran him like a whipped horse. It was always her way or the highway, and he was always trying to acquiesce,” Mr. Farquhar says.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...12/singlepage/


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    from dotr's link above:

    ... Whoever had pulled this stunt had not only broken in the night before but spent hours crumpling computer paper until it formed the unwieldy mass that stood before her ...

    Behind the camera was the department's latest part-time hire, a polite and proper young man with strawberry blond hair the women on staff had taken a real shine to.
    This would have been 1987ish, so RW's inappropiate behaviour was evident back then when, as the most recent hire, he did a B&E and photographed the response.

    Note the reference to "strawberry blond hair" as in the description of the Woodland Rapist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyMacBloom View Post
    How many women reading this post have a husband who has boxes of stuff stored in the rafters of your garage that you DO NOT know EXACTLY what is in them???

    In our home, which I think is pretty normal, there isn't a nook or crany that I don't know EXACTLY what is in it.

    If my husband had boxes in the rafters and said something like:
    A) they are work related, I would know that isn't the case because his company wouldn't let him keep files at home!
    B) hubby is a photo buff, as a gift I would prob go through them and have one framed as a gift.
    C) boxes are filled with school memorabilia, then how come the box number increases?

    At some point my curiousity would just simply be too tweaked not to take a peak in those boxes myself!

    Your thoughts ladies?
    Sorry, I don't post often here but this poll caught my eye. Hubby has a bunch of mystery boxes in the garage - I don't care what's in them, there are spiders in the garage! I know AG has a bunch of boxes in her garage too, but I don't check them either - same reason - spiders!! LOL

    ETA: Sorry again LMB, I see everyone else has moved on to more serious stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by flipflop View Post
    ...Look at pic #4 of the cruiser and car in driveway. If you look at the structure of the house/garage...they mentioned they found boxes in the rafters in the garage. With this style of garage I cannot picture rafters. Im thinking the rafters in the Tweed cottage, not Ottawa as stated in the media.
    I agree flip ... my home has a bedroom over the garage .. no rafters in the garage, just ceiling beams that dual as the floor joists for the bedroom.

    I know they just moved in in December, but gadzooks ... that garage looks cleaner and tidier than my house.


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    I tried to find if this has already been posted in prior threads but as yet haven't found anything so I'll post it here.
    Canwest News Service February 10, 2010

    Profile: Col. Russ Williams

    Here is the official air force biography of Col. Russ Williams. It appeared on the DND website until Tuesday, when it was removed:

    Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Pro...#ixzz122mdriah


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    I'm new to this case so I apologize if this has already been posted.
    Sidebar: Cold Cases

    Canwest News Service February 10, 2010

    Williams posted to the Shearwater base near Halifax from 1992 to 1994. During that time, police report three unsolved homicides.

    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/Si...#ixzz1231HLaTb


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    I guess the definition of "victim" is in the eyes of the beholder. For most cat and dog owners, a scratch on a floor is simply part of life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    I doubt that the act of wiping down the victim was out of any consideration for her, but more an attempt to eliminate his DNA from the crime scene.
    True enough, Sillybilly, I infer some level of "nurturing", which is probably the wrong word, but a level of care for the victim, as we heard about from the Tweed assault victim (getting her aspirin etc.). If he did exhibit some sort of attempt at care for the victim, that could indicate a possible bond to the victim (stalking) etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flipflop View Post
    This is on the front page of the Ottawa Citizen online:
    Mary Elizabeth Harriman
    Apology
    A story and headline on page A4 of yesterday's Ottawa Citizen may have left the impression that Mary Elizabeth Harriman, the wife of Colonel Russell Williams, had knowledge of the criminal actions of her husband. The story did not intend to suggest she had any knowledge of his criminal actions and the Citizen retracts and apologizes for the implication.
    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/to...abeth+Harriman

    Someone must have complained to get a written apology!
    So, I see, MEH and her people, are more concerned regarding what people might think of HER, than of extending sympathy and regret for the actions of her husband who victimized a countless number of people. I don't even remember reading anything in a Citizen article that could be construed in that way. Does anyone know what The Citizen could be referring to in that article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sillybilly View Post
    I would imagine at this point that MEH has very little in her life that allows her to feel empowered (even more difficult for someone who has a position where they are in "control"). Maybe it's her attempt at exerting whatever power/control she can in any area of her life. Wouldn't be surprised if her day-to-day existence right now isn't being handled primarily by advice from shrinks and lawyers.
    I agree, and if that is true, it is a very similar existence to Williams' victims that were allowed to live, along with the loved ones of Williams' murder victims.

    Williams' victims are left with a huge, gaping hole of pain, that will never be filled again.

    The gaping hole left in MEH's life, sits in a cell awaiting his sentence, so he can live out his days in the best negotiated comfort.


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    So it seems RW was photographing his victims as far back as his days at UOT. I had read of his pranks, but didn't know he was photographing the victims at that time.

    The fourth-floor personnel office at the University of Toronto's Scarborough campus was a suitably staid place to work, so department manager June Hope could hardly expect what greeted her one morning when she arrived to unlock her door.

    Everything – her desk, her computer and her chair – had vanished beneath a tangled mess of white paper that filled the room from floor to ceiling. Whoever had pulled this stunt had not only broken in the night before but spent hours crumpling computer paper until it formed the unwieldy mass that stood before her.

    Just as Ms. Hope turned to announce her surprise to her co-workers, she heard a familiar sound. “Click.”

    Behind the camera was the department's latest part-time hire, a polite and proper young man with strawberry blond hair the women on staff had taken a real shine to.

    “Russ, do you not have anything better to do with your evenings than sit there rummaging through blank paper and filling my room with it?” Ms. Hope asked.

    “No,” he replied.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...12/singlepage/


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    So, the "Apology" to MEH was written on October 9th, and quoted "yesterdays" story. There were many stories regarding RW on the 8th, perhaps someone familiar with the hardcopy of the paper can shed light which story was on A4 (cover???). Here are October 8th's RW articles, the scratched floor article was the one that discussed MEH the most, but, I don't know where the implication of knowledge reference would come from. I really can't figure out exactly which article the apology to MEH is referring to.

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/search/...ssell+williams


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