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    MT - Nyleen Kay Marshall, 4, Clancy, 25 June 1983 - Still alive after all this time?

    Just wanted to post this because I know that there are people from all over the world on here and one of you might know Nyleen Kay Marshall.......

    Nyleen was 4 when she was abducted in 1983- heres her Doe Network page

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/266dfmt.html

    I'm posting this because as it says on the page, somebody called and wrote letters some 3 years after she vanished claiming they had her and loved and were going to keep her.

    I guess this might have been a prank but the detectives involved said that this person knew information that wasn't released to the general public, so we can at least presume that they had Nyleen at some point. I guess 3 years is also a little late for making crank calls. Maybe they were thinking of returning her? Heres a little news update link page

    http://www.channel3000.com/news/1555573/detail.html

    As it says on the link, the police obviously believed this person had Nyleen, but when they traced the calls and letters they mysteriously stopped.

    Of course its possible that the person was just paranoid about being caught..........Or maybe the inside informaton the alleged abducter had on Nyleen was actually from "inside" if you know what I mean.

    Anyway, I think theres a good chance shes still alive....... so I was moved to post.
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    Dose anybody have any updates on this case?

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    Nyleen would now be about 25 or 26. It would be interesting if she was alive to discover if she knows she was kidnapped.

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    I can't find any updates at all on this..................................

    Calilkid- you're right, I just realised that Nyleen was born in September 1978 and I was born in May 1978. We are basically the same age. That is very scary indeed. I am 27!!!

    I wonder if there is any way at all for us to create some publicity for this case either in Clancy, Montana, where she dissapeared or in Wisconsin where the anonynmous phonecalls and the sighting were?

    Its very interesting that the anonymous phonecalls to the missing childrens line and a sighting appeared in the same place. I have a gut feeling about this child. Just like Bethany Markowski, I think shes still alive.

    Heres meggliyweggily page with an age progression:

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ll_nyleen.html

    and her stats:

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


    Missing Since: June 25, 1983 from Clancy, Montana
    Classification: Non-Family Abduction
    Date Of Birth: September 18, 1978
    Age: 4 years old
    Height and Weight: 3'2, 29 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, blue eyes. Marshall has a small mole above her left eyebrow. She has dimples on both cheeks. Marshall's upper left baby tooth was chipped at the time she vanished. She has excess hair on her lower back. Marshall has a fair complexion and is right-handed.

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    The excess hair on the lower back may be a sign of spina bifida occulta. While most people do not require any medical treatment for it, some do. It may be a way of finding her since there are few places which treat it.

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    Where in Wisconcin did the calls come from? Did anyone try writing to media in that area ask that they run the story again? If she was only 3 when she was kidnapped, she very well might not know she was kidnapped. Or she may know but have been told her parents were dead, or mean to her or didn't want her anymore. But being an adult now, she may recognise baby pictures of herself or an age progression photo. A story telling about her parents still looking for her after all of these years, might make her curious. Or someone may decide to come forward now that so much time has passed.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Hey mysterview. I was just thinking the other day whether it would be worth me writing to some local press to try and get them to run it again. I'm going to do it- what have I got to loose?

    Pandora I tried searching for spina bifida occulta treatment centres in the area but none came up. I wonder if this was a lead that the police had thought of though??

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    I doubt the police thought of it because most people with it never know unless they have a problem. I didn't know I had it until last year! My pediatrician discovered it when I was very young, but he never told my parents assuming it wouldn't cause any health problems (which it hasn't). We discovered it when he retired and we gained possession of my records.
    It is assumed 5-10% of the population has varying degrees of SBO, but most are unaware of it. Approximately 20 people/year end up having to have surgery for it. The Cleveland Clinic and several research hospitals do the surgery required. The excess hair on the lower back usually indicates a more serious form of the disease.

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    Wisconsin connection?

    I live about one hour away from Madison and have family that lives in Edgerton/Janesville area, where some calls were traced to. I would love to help but don't know how. Is there something you think I could be doing to help get the word out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crs4kds
    I live about one hour away from Madison and have family that lives in Edgerton/Janesville area, where some calls were traced to. I would love to help but don't know how. Is there something you think I could be doing to help get the word out?
    Check your local papers/news/TV websites. Look for a your story or story idea link. Also try to reach the crimestoppers reporter. Or just email them, tell them the story and ask that they run the story again as the child is now an adult. Media will pay more attention to local people, than to strangers from the web (though that helps also). The more calls, emails, letters they get from the public requesting info the more likely they will oblige.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Bump. Hey Mysterview I am on this- all good ideas from you. I havent forgotten!! xx

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    Good. Keep at it, it may take perserverance! Talk to friends/neighbors/relatives and ask them to send emails/letters also. Post it on community bulletin boards (online and off) and ask for community support.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Amazing...

    I am amazed to find after all this time people are still talking about Nyleen. And better yet, talking about how to find her. Nyleen is my cousin. It feels nice to know that someone aside from us remembers...

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    Oh, You may have been wondering...

    I thought some of you might find this interesting. Nyleen was profiled on Unsolved Mysteries, if some of you saw that episode, you would have seen her mother. She was murdered in mexico while looking for a house for her family to move into as her husband Kim was being transferred. She was found raped, with her hands bound behind her back, hung with a mans belt, all jewelery and valuables missing, and the mexican police labeled it a suicide and refused us jurisdiction to investigate. Voila! A whole new unsolved mystery for you. Poor Kim, how much can the man take?

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    Some families seem to just win the lottery for abominably bad luck and the Marshalls would be one of them -- kid kidnapped, Mom murdered. I've got another case where TWO family members vanished (unrelated cases, years apart, different parts of the country, one of them was a female adult and the other a male child) and in addition to that, another family member was killed in a car wreck when she was in her teens. I don't understand how people can survive all those tragedies without imploding. Poor Nyleen. Poor Marshalls.

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    I feel bad for this man also:
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...ght=loses+sons

    There's also someone on the Yahoo ColdCases group who lost all three of her children (one was murdered, one drowned and one committed suicide) and I think her husband passed away this past year. I often wonder how in the world she deals with it all...I think it's pretty admirable, and she must be a very strong person. Here's the links to her childrens websites...

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ieherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ryherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...amherbert.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradise

    There's also someone on the Yahoo ColdCases group who lost all three of her children (one was murdered, one drowned and one committed suicide) and I think her husband passed away this past year. I often wonder how in the world she deals with it all...I think it's pretty admirable, and she must be a very strong person. Here's the links to her childrens websites...

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ieherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ryherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...amherbert.html


    That is so sad, I don't know how I would cope with all that.

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    Hello to you all. I have joined the forum today and am delighted with what I have found on the site so far! I have always thought it wholly unfair that some cases get so much media coverage while others get next to none! It is heart breaking to come across a particular case of for example a missing child while on the net and then to type the persons details in again for more info only to find there is no more information about their case. This way even cases from years ago can still be put again into peoples minds.

    With regard to this case (I had never heard of) it is completely possible that she could be alive and well with no idea of who she really is. Remember the case of Stephen Staynor aswell who was missing for all those years and then turned up. People have sometimes questioned whether he would have ever attempted to come home had it not been for the second little boy being kidnapped. If the kidnapper had treated her well maybe she would have no desire to leave and why would she? I know if someone suddenly told me my family who I get on fine with by the way, had kidnapped me and I now had to turn them in for it, I would be a little reluctant.

    I guess what I am trying to say is that hopefully the person making contact did steal her and the only good thing is they did care for her and looked after her - very interesting case.

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    Am I the only person who was chilled by the
    "I realize how much her family must miss her, but I love her, and I have her," the letter read. "I just can't let her go"
    of the letter writer/phone caller.?

    What they did, IF they were really the kidnapper, was taunt law enforcement. Why call the missing kids hotline? Why call LE? I know we would all like to believe that the quoted words convey genuine love and affection, but to a disturbed mind it could mean so much more.

    I truly found this portion of the story chilling.

    It could also not be the kidnapper at all (as previously mentioned).

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    If the kidnapper had treated her well maybe she would have no desire to leave and why would she?
    If the person who took Nyleen is the same person who wrote the family letters, I don't think she was treated well. When I watched the program for this case on Unsolved Mysteries, I paused it on the shot of the letters and read a bit more than they read aloud. The man talked about some very disturbing things in the letter, although he claimed he would never hurt Nyleen (he called her "Kay") or sexually abuse her.

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    I'm probaly being naive and just hoping she is alive, was never hurt here and am hoping for the best, but maybe the person who took her did take good care of her and didn't hurt her at all and she just plain has no memory of her family. The kidnapper could be someone who maybe couldn't have children and saw her and impulsivley took her and raised her as their own and called the family b/c they felt bad about their grief just not bad enough to return her.
    Then again she was almost 5 years old, I'm not sure about anyone else but I have a few memories from when I was that age and certanly she would remember being with a different family at one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sisters
    Then again she was almost 5 years old, I'm not sure about anyone else but I have a few memories from when I was that age and certanly she would remember being with a different family at one time.
    When you have been uprooted and through hell at the tender age of 5...your brain protects you by supressing many of those memories-the good, the bad, and the ugly. Sometimes they resurface, sometimes they are better off left alone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by emma l
    Bump. Hey Mysterview I am on this- all good ideas from you. I havent forgotten!! xx
    Sorry, I just saw your reply. And welcome to all the new posters!
    Cattitude, esp. welcome! As you read this thread, if you see something that differs from the story as you know it, please let us know. And inconsistencies, anything you can add would be welcome. There is a lot that can be accomplished here. Key to it all, seems to be to get it in the media- to try to reach out to Noreen or "Kay" or whatever name she may be going by now.
    For those of you who live in the area- if you know anyone in LE- talk to them about the case, see if they know of a way to get the case looked at again. See if your area has a cold case unit, and ask that they review her case. Try a media blitz, asking that they bring the story up again. Keep in mind that numbers mean a lot with the media. One request they might discard. But the more requests they get, the more attention they will pay. So get friends, relatives, neighbors involved- at least involved enough to contact the station. Cattitude, it would also help if you or another family member would be willing to be on camera and let them know you want the attention on the case. So contact them, remind them of the story, and make the request. If you can get attention to be paid locally, then we can work on national coverage. Also, don't depend just on the TV and print media. Think about radio shows. Is there community blogs and forums? Think about organizing a public gathering in rememberance of her and her story. Family could post memorial type notices in the paper. (you will often find similiar things in the obit area of the paper). Anything just to get the story out there.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


    "Just when the caterpillar thought its world was over, it became a butterfly" ~ Michelle Knight

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    Bumping for Nyleen. I just finished watching her segment on unsolved mysteries. It has alot of parallels to Sharon Marshall's story. I hope wherever she is she has been cared for and is happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradise
    I feel bad for this man also:
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...ght=loses+sons

    There's also someone on the Yahoo ColdCases group who lost all three of her children (one was murdered, one drowned and one committed suicide) and I think her husband passed away this past year. I often wonder how in the world she deals with it all...I think it's pretty admirable, and she must be a very strong person. Here's the links to her childrens websites...

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ieherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...ryherbert.html
    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/childre...amherbert.html
    OT Paradise -Thank you for posting those links. I have been browsing that entire site and bawling my eyes out. It's a truly beautiful site. Thanks again.

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