I'm kind of surprised that the dispatcher didn't ask for more information about Zahra. Isn't it standard procedure to ask the name of the child,what the child was wearing, a description of the child including ht, wt, hair color?
Well darn it! I so terribly wanted to believe the dad was innocent. I just listened to that 911 call and well, I can't believe he's innocent anymore no matter how hard I try.
I could almost see EB standing there next to him as he made the call, making motions to him to stop talking when he got ready to say whatever his boss told him...and coaching him "oh yeah be sure you say this...and that"....
He totally knew about it. She had been gone awhile. I wish this weren't true, but sigh.... that call totally closed the book on this to me.
Just arrest him already and water board them both until they tell you where precious little Zahra is.
I am not a screamer or crier either.
My daughter has been kidnapped.
I need help right now.
Send someone to (insert address)
I am going to go look for her (click).
Sounds like a calm person who wants to find their child.
It is the content the focus being the story of how she is missing being his main intent of the call versus getting help to find her. That is what everyone is focused on, imo.
I still can't believe that after finding a ransom note stating that his bosses daughter had been kidnapped that the first thing ANY parent would do would be to check on their own child.
It's MO especially after hearing that 911 call that the plan was to make it look like Zahra was taken by mistake, but for whatever reason they just couldn't pull it all together to make it sound believable.
and what's up with the "WE checked in there last night about 2:30 and she was there" *WE*.. so he is saying that at 2:30 in the morning the 2 of them 'checked in there'...also AB says Zahra only comes out when she wants something @ 10 yrs old! ...when is all this homeschooling going on then?
OMG..What did they do to and with this poor baby? ..I'm honestly almost afraid to find out....
~"Be kinder than necessary, everyone is fighting some kind of battle"~
Just noting that they never even mentioned it.
The entire focus of the information is to spell out that a stranger has their child and this is how it happened.
If this scenario actually happened and shred of it was the truth wouldn't have you have been asking the police to help convince the "kidnappers" that you would meet the demands in the ransom. He never mentions the ransom because it isn't on his list of important items, it is irrelevant and he knows it.
I honestly think AB is just not that bright. I still am on the fence about his involvement (don't hit me.) It really seems to me like EB was in charge of everything. From taking care of Zahra to controlling what AB said and did. He left his life in Aus. for this woman. Took his daughter away from her family/friends. I have no doubt he thought he found someone who was going to take care of him and his daughter. He ignored the abuse because he wanted this woman to stick around.
His call sounds like someone who was inexperienced talking to authority. I was a bumbling idiot on the phone well into my 20's, even after I was a mother, because my mother always did everything for me. EVERYTHING. She'd call my bank if I had questions about my account. She wrote my first year english papers for me in college. It was crazy.
It sounds like he called his boss to find out who would write a ransom note like that and then take his daughter (the boss then saying to file a report) EB putting these thoughts in his head because she knew he'd fall for it.
Was odd that he went into the narrative about how the kidnappers must have used the fire and ransom note to sneak in and get Zahra. S-P-E-L-L-I-N-G it out so that LE would "get it" as if LE were "stupid". KWIM?
I'm really po'ed about this latest news today. Oof. JMHO.
In regards to the ransom note, we don't know that he saw the note or at what time it was determined to have been written by EB.
If Z was no longer going to school and things were deteriorating at home she may have developed depression in which case it would be easy for Z to have stayed in her room all the time. (As a sufferer of depression that is easy to do and yet when having to be in public no one would know you just put on a good face often).
Zahra being a polite, thoughtful girl I would imagine would do the same so no one else worried.
In my opinion I believe AB doesn't really know what is going on (could be wrong) and that the fire was to draw attention to the note and that the police would then search the house to find Zahra missing.
It would then become a case of mistaken identity.
this didn't happen so EB had to come up with some other way to report her missing.
EB was stupid enough to write the note in her own hand without any attempt to hide her particular style.
in regards to the abuse claims, seeing who has made them it is really difficult to verify their legitimacy.
what we do need it more info on sightings during the last 2-3 weeks confirmed outside of the family.
I find it sooooooooooo frustrating that these kids are now going missing seemingly off the face of the earth without a trace. I fear it is going to be new trend to leave reporting as long as possible to minimise tracking and evidence.
This and the Kiesha case are the two that I have been following and it is tearing my heart apart how these two girls can disappear without a trace. I hope with all my heart that they are found alive (I know it isn't likely) and found soon and the culprits put behind bars forever.
Just my own Opinion -
Rowe Family http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...chantelle+rowe
Kiesha Abrahams http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110796
Zahra Baker http://www.websleuths.com/forums/for...ysprune=&f=420 - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=1#post5796775
His neighbors said HE fought with his wife into the middle of the night so loudly it woke them and shook the pictures of their walls.
He lived in this place for six weeks and none of his neighbors ever saw his daughter. He never mentioned her.
He knew his wife was beating her. Everyone knew it.
He is not some shrinking violet or an ostrich with his head in the sand. By his own admission he hadn't laid eyes on a daughter he lived with since Thursday.
This goes way beyond being a bit clueless or naive.
He is very calm while dealing with LE and hasn't gotten himself arrested, yet. He is not stupid by any stretch of the imagination.
imo of course
IDK if this has been posted here so I apologize if it already was. Are you all aware that the LE are getting Zahara's medical records all the way from Austrailia? JVM just posted it.
Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell The search for Zahra Baker goes international! TONIGHT: Shocking new twists and turns as police hunt down little Zahra's medical records all the way in Australia! Will these records crack the case? And we'll play a chilling new 911 call!
Each of us have unique life experiences that we use as filters when we view the world and when we discuss these murder cases and missing children/adults cases.
I respect yours. I might not agree with you but I respect it
No, I don't think they were going to collect a million from the boss.
I think their focus was on explaining away the missing child. If they could get away with that they would have been happy. Not that I am suggesting they would have turned down an outpouring of support from the public had anyone bought this BS.
A Duke Power envelope with handwriting was inside the vehicle on the front windshield. Officer Rollins reports in the search warrant that he smelled gasoline emitting from inside the vehicle when he approached.
The Duke Power envelope had the following message: "Mr. Coffey, you like being in control now who is in control we have your daughter and your pot smoking red head son is next unless you do what is asked 1,000,000 unmarked will be in touch soon." The note also had written at the top and bottom, "no cops."
So many questions................
The 911 call is a case of neither/nor: neither did it convince me that AB is innocent of having exposed his girl to cruelty and abuse at the hands of EB, putting her in a position which may have ultimately been responsible for her death, nor did it convince me that AB had, directly, a hand in killing her and helping to dispose of her body.
Thanks for providing the ransom note outline though Darlin.
I could be very confused at this moment. JMHO
Nevermind ETA I am confused. I'll just sit here and quietly read for a bit Sorry
Bottom line for me is:
If he just went through the "drama" the night before of someone mistaking his house for his boss's house, and attempting to burn a vehicle, burning the yard, and leaving a ransome note......why wouldnt he check on his own daughter? You would..if a kidnapper is going to go so far as to mistake your house and your car, why wouldnt they mistake your daughter? Why wouldnt that put you into a tailspin of terror and send you running into your house to check if your daughter was taken instead? (why wouldnt police? something is missing here....) Werent the police on scene? Some officer has some serious explaining to do...in my opinion.
Bottom line is: A loving, caring, and INNOCENT parent would have instantly checked on their child, afraid that they were taken due to mistaken identity, and nothing can make me feel different about this.
No parent concerned that upon calling 911 because it "appears they took.." his daughter "instead", is going to laugh when talking about her broodiness.
Ive not only fallen off the fence, Ive torn the fence down.