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    There is a beautiful moon tonight and full tomorrow night. Maybe it will shine its light on sweet Zahra and bring her home soon. So many have fallen in love with her! I hope she has found peace!

    That sounded great till I thought about her real home...don't want her to ever go there again..I like to think of her in a happy place with no worries, pain or fear, surrounded by love. That is what I mean when I say bring her home.
    Just maybe she is laughing, running and playing with other children we have fallen in love with here at WS.

    Goodnight all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Checking the thread and hoping for news.

    One quick thing, I'm starting to look at what I don't see and one thing I've become curious of. AB's relationship with his daughter...

    I also am a father of one daughter, one I love dearly. I would think Zhara would love to see her father coming home from work or spend time with him when she could but there seems to be very limited contact.

    Even in pictures <the ones I've seen> I don't recall one of them with Zahra and her father together. No stories of them together, birthdays etc.

    Am I missing something here, I mean I know about absent fathers but he was Z's caretaker, she lived with him.
    Hey there, Peli....

    Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. I have twin girls, and there is a special relationship between them and my husband. Daddy's girls. My husband is a Marine with a rough exterior, maybe even a lil stern, but when it comes to his girls, he will let them "do his hair." LOL He's mush. In fact, in our household, most of the photos include him with the girls as I'm the picture taker... lol However, he's ultra-protective too, already dreading the day when they are teens (they are 5 now) and gets bristly when they discuss a "boyfriend" in school even now. No... these girls are his life. I felt guilty almost that I didn't have a boy for him, and he never EVER regretted that. He loves his girls immensely. I haven't seen the pics either.... question the same things. I know it's hard to compare my life with others, but I do have that hanging question: How was Zahra's relationship with her father.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredblondy View Post
    I could have written that post myself. I just cannot figure him out!
    Me either and I'm a man. Really AB needs to step up his game on behalf of his daughter. I'd come out swinging, with him it's like nothing. His first interview he made a statement at the end and that's it.

    It's hard for me to imagine he didn't see his daughter from when he arrived home Thursday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Me either and I'm a man. Really AB needs to step up his game on behalf of his daughter. I'd come out swinging, with him it's like nothing. His first interview he made a statement at the end and that's it.

    It's hard for me to imagine he didn't see his daughter from when he arrived home Thursday.
    Again... it's hard for me too. lol In actuality, if this were OUR household, I would be making the 911 calls as my husband would out there already with weapons in tow and looking for his daughters. You wouldn't see him for interviews as he'd be out there searching on his own. There would be no giggling.

    Just tonight, as we were talking (hubby and I) after got back from a fall festival at the school... the girls had too much candy.. welllll. We realized it was a lil quiet. We both walked to the bedroom and saw they put themselves to bed. Crusty, hard-ass, gruff Marine dad said it was a Kodak moment... still looked in on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gibby207 View Post
    Again... it's hard for me too. lol In actuality, if this were OUR household, I would be making the 911 calls as my husband would out there already with weapons in tow and looking for his daughters. You wouldn't see him for interviews as he'd be out there searching on his own. There would be no giggling.

    Just tonight, as we were talking (hubby and I) after got back from a fall festival at the school... the girls had too much candy.. welllll. We realized it was a lil quiet. We both walked to the bedroom and saw they put themselves to bed. Crusty, hard-ass, gruff Marine dad said it was a Kodak moment... still looked in on them.
    Laughing here gibby...Semper Fi to your hubby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Laughing here gibby...Semper Fi to your hubby!
    Hubby says "a-ooo-rah!" to you. lol He's a man's man.... except when it comes to his daughters...

    I wanna see some pics come forth with AB and Zahra.

    PS: Gibby was his nickname in the Marine Corps... hence my hat. I married into gibby-hood. lol
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    Welllll... late here, and time for slumber. I want everyone to know that I lurk here mostly while I'm working, but never a moment can I forget, or will I forget, about Zahra. She looks like our spunky, soccer-playing, freckle-faced daughter. I won't leave this thread/forum until there is closure.

    You aren't forgotten, Zahra. Sweet dreams for a sweet girl.
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    It was asked on one of the earlier threads when Zahra was at Charlotte Motor Speedway getting her hearing aids. I never saw an answer for it. That was on May 11, 2010.

    Does anyone know when the cell phone pic of Zahra was taken? The one with the black eye and a bandana on her head? She looks so different in each of those times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorisMom003 View Post
    Does anyone know when the cell phone pic of Zahra was taken? The one with the black eye and a bandana on her head? She looks so different in each of those times.
    I believe it was sometime in August - I'm thinking about the 15th but I can't verify that with a link - give me a bit of time to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorisMom003 View Post
    It was asked on one of the earlier threads when Zahra was at Charlotte Motor Speedway getting her hearing aids. I never saw an answer for it. That was on May 11, 2010.

    Does anyone know when the cell phone pic of Zahra was taken? The one with the black eye and a bandana on her head? She looks so different in each of those times.
    I googled it for you...
    August 9th!!

    ABC News article

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunKnLuV View Post
    I googled it for you...
    August 9th!!

    ABC News article
    Thank you for that. That seems like such a drastic change in her appearance in just 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunKnLuV View Post
    I googled it for you...
    August 9th!!

    ABC News article
    Thanks PunKn, I just found it on this wonderfully detailed collection:

    http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m..._101013_mn.jpg

    Yes, Aug 9th.

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    Writes a former child protective services social worker in Catawba County:

    Zahra case suggests N.C. lax in tracking home-schooled kids
    State should toughen regulations, verify child's situation is sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorisMom003 View Post
    Thank you for that. That seems like such a drastic change in her appearance in just 3 months.
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    Thanks PunKn, I just found it on this wonderfully detailed collection:

    http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m..._101013_mn.jpg

    Yes, Aug 9th.

    Awww your welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by TorisMom003 View Post
    Thank you for that. That seems like such a drastic change in her appearance in just 3 months.
    She looks quite ill in the Aug 9 pic I really wonder if it was medical neglect as some have speculated

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbrnmw2 View Post
    She looks quite ill in the Aug 9 pic I really wonder if it was medical neglect as some have speculated
    She definitely looks neglected. That picture speaks to my heart.....

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    Wow hi again all, have been lurking while working and skimming the threads as much as I can... First, I'm impressed with how many new WSers Zahra has motivated to start posting. Welcome all and thank you for your insights and energy!

    This mattress thing I can't ignore. LE said they were searching the landfill for an item that would help them establish/firm up the timeline of her disappearance, then they display clear interest in at least two mattresses at the landfill, after removing the one from EB/AB's house... and saying that they were taking the mattress/box spring/bed frame from the home so the dogs could have something to sniff Z by???

    This theory may have been effectively debunked in the last threads that I've had to skim, but IMO Zahra laid dead in her bed for some time before the cover-up began.
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    Zoom on the mattress that was removed from the house:

    Source: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/...irls-case.html
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    The attic was always of concern to me, the one thing that is guaranteed this time of year in that part of the country is that the attic is going to be very very hot.
    She did not look well in the picture with the black eye and pink bandana, I wonder if her eyes were sunken from dehydration.
    If her stepmother was used to dishing out this sort of punishment it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she died from the mistreatment.
    Locked away for most of the day and night who knows if she was able to get enough to drink let alone eat.

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    wow!

    Quote Originally Posted by pufnstuf View Post
    Zoom on the mattress that was removed from the house:

    Source: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/...irls-case.html
    I might have missed this earlier...but just noticed in the article you linked (thank you)...this:

    On Thursday, they returned to a Burke County landfill in search of a mattress cover in connection with the case

    This is the first "confirmed" or "confident"...maybe, article that I've read, which mentions specific items regarding "the 1 item"...

    Speaks volumes to me...IMO...if they're looking for the / a matress cover, they must believe Zahra was wrapped in it and disposed...somewhere??? Or have found some matching fibers or something...this case is heart breaking!

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    Here is a link to the cached 'Love 4 Zahra Clare Baker' FB page which was taken down today http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

    Unfortunately it only shows the posts by the owner and not by 'everyone' which would have been more interesting, and none of the links work, I'll see it I can get any other pages from it by searching through my history and looking for other cached pages.

    Here is the wall with other's posts from Oct 21 at 15:55 GMT http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

    Here is a discussion on the family memorial held last weekend, includes posts from Adam's mother, but also includes posts from another K, but you can tell which one she is by what she has to say http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari

    Old discussion listing http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&client=safari
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    The landlord of the Hickory home who the "ransom note" was addressed to, was that M Coffey? Also the person that is from Hickory that knows Mr Coffey, would you be willing to say if he is in his 40's or not?

    If the landlord is who I think that it is then I have found a connection between him and Pat Adams (the witness from the furniture store). Not sure if it means anything or not but it was something that I was worried about when Mrs. Adams came forward with information about seeing Zahra at the store with Elisa.

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    Fathers whose daughters are missing and presumed murdered should not be playing around on facebook, not while LE are on their hands and knees in garbage dumps looking for this little girl or some piece of evidence to shore up a time line for her disappearance.
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    He's also still visiting myspace.....last login 21/10/2010 http://www.myspace.com/adam1802000

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