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    Rochella Leaves Albuquerque

    NOTE: We presumed the husband was truthful when he said she drove away that evening and believed the initial info provided by Rochelle's sister.









    This woman needs our prayers, as she left when circumstances were menacing. There problem here, as in the Nancy Moyer chart, is that the ruler of the horoscope, Mercury, is found in a Cadent House and a Fixed Sign. This is a weak position and she will not act in her own interest or to her own advantage until all hope is gone. There is a dependency here. She is distressed about her personal affairs but also physically, generally upset. Especially due to the Fixity of Mercury, matters drag and come to light over time. Due to the interception of the Moon, we know her course was blocked but----by whom? Since she did not know the city, she could have been blocked by misdirection. It is those two young men in the lawbreaking stance that worry me and they are not ruled by the Sun or Jupiter. They are MARS.
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    NOTICE: Sadly, Rochelle has been located. Found in the rental car. Cause of death possible suicide per article, NOT confirmed yet.
    Be aware her family reads on the WS site so please hold off with comments for the time being.
    THANK YOU

    http://www.koat.com/news/25762244/detail.html

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    Tuba can the charts tell us anymore about Michelle .. It's been 6 days and still no word. It's been said in her thread that the maid supposedly saw her on Thursday the 4th. The husband stated she send bazaar messages after she left on the 3rd. There has been no credit card activity.
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    Bizarre Texts in the Rochellea Case

    I have read on the main forum, about the 2 bizarre messages, that the husband provided to the LE.

    Does CPP know that this is a fact?

    And did it occur, "after" the fact in otherwords after "last seen"?

    Did CPP comment yet that these bizzare texts are actually known to the police?

    That makes a ton of difference, imo, as I used Anubis an asteroid, and it appears in the 1st house of the last seen chart with Admetoes in the 12th.

    I'd like however to know this is a fact first., of the texts labeled as "bizarre" if it can be checked out.
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    NOTICE: Sadly, Rochelle has been located. Found in the rental car. Cause of death possible suicide per article, NOT confirmed yet.
    Be aware her family reads on the WS site so please hold off with comments for the time being.
    THANK YOU

    http://www.koat.com/news/25762244/detail.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon80 View Post
    I have read on the main forum, about the 2 bizarre messages, that the husband provided to the LE.

    Does CPP know that this is a fact?

    And did it occur, "after" the fact in otherwords after "last seen"?

    Did CPP comment yet that these bizzare texts are actually known to the police?

    That makes a ton of difference, imo, as I used Anubis an asteroid, and it appears in the 1st house of the last seen chart with Admetoes in the 12th.

    I'd like however to know this is a fact first., of the texts labeled as "bizarre" if it can be checked out.
    Leomoon8 there has been no confirmation on the text message. Still waiting to hear.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-11-2010 at 05:55 PM. Reason: NOTICE - FOUND

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    Murdered Aunt of member Jessc.

    Without her time of birth, it's hard to find out more.....but we will try with a random place on this island, in Guam as well, how the vibrations looked to me, as she (unknowingly) said goodbye to her mother for the last time:


    Such a poignant chart of a mother’s goodbye to her daughter. Of course it’s showing us the subconscious mind’s vibrations in relation to the place and time of the Goodbye, but it’s all there nevertheless within reason on the island of Guam.

    Here, the Ascendant or Chart Ruler is very critical in the 13th degree of a Cardinal Sign Aries putting Libra on the opposite angle or Descendant.

    Mars, the Ruler of the Chart, is opposed to the MC for in a few hours time, this lady would no longer be. Uranus (the seperation - force from her loved ones ) is also conjunct The MC cusp the place of public

    The more poignant theme of this chart is the Moon in the house of motherOr Cancer on the cusp (and the Moon rules the sign of Cancer) the sign of motherhoodWhere the foundation or the mother lies, or the 4th house.

    The house associated with the daughter is the 5th, and Chiron placed here tells us of the inner wound soon to take place to be felt in the material world from this great loss.

    The Part of Fortune at 10 degrees is Quincunx to the MC at 10 degrees, and exact aspect of orb. The pain will be severe in the parting as the fortune speaks to this well.

    Venus found in the 7th of committed relationships also squares Ceres, the nurturer.

    Mars, the chart ruler and eventual death of the mother, is forming a sesquare to Pluto, which points to a dominating theme, efforts that excites the energy.

    Mars with Pluto………death in hours.
    Pluto in the 8th house of death, and Mars along with Juno (in a crisis degree) bidding her loving daughter goodbye for the last time.

    I do not think it was long after, perhaps the same night she died.

    This chart reflects this goodbye kiss well.

    The North Node is likewise, poised for the exit. The NN squares the Sun Which itself falls into the crisis degree of 29Virgo; The North Node also squares Jupiter
    (luck has run out) and the North node is semi-square to Saturn, (I read as a karmic but woeful event) yet the North Node does sextile Venus, (leaves with love in her heart being exhibited here)

    The North Node biQuintiles the Moon in Leo, the mother seen as almost a heroine figure to the daughter I would think.

    Edgar Cayce the great prophet said we know ahead of time subconsciously when we are going to take our leave of this veil of tears…and I think that’s true from all I’ve witnessed. Of course this does not mean the manner of which we take our leave needs to be in such a way that has been set into motion either…Everyone has free choice to commit the unspeakable crime or not. There are other ways for the soul to take it’s exit besides violence towards them.

    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Murdered Aunt of member Jessc.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jessc.
    Thank you Leomoon. I can try to find my aunts time of birth. With the info you already have can you tell the manner she died and maybe who murdered her and why?
    Here is what I did so far.....but surely the time of birth and location would be most helpful,

    This however is what I wrote originally.....as notes that I could see.


    Interesting to see that when the Transit of Pluto came around to station at 20Degrees and 57minutes of Scorpio (a Definite loss degree), then she lost her life, as her Sun was 20Scorp27minutes, thus fulfilling a natal promise but in a way we might least suspect.

    Her Venus at 7Capricorn 29min. is conjunct to fixed star Facies, (not a good star for love affairs without much difficulties involved)….it easily could have been a love triangle or jealousy involved.

    Her natal Venus is also square to Cupido (love affairs)..and relationships…so inharmonious alignment , and the troublesome Facies for her Venus star.

    Another point of interest is when she was murdered, Transiting Moon was at 11 degrees Scorpio, and her own natal Uranus (the unexpected or erratic events) planet was also located 11 Scorpio.

    Transiting Saturn was also at 12Aquarius, a negative star associated at this degree too,
    And her own Chiron was 12 Aquarius, so Saturn conjunct Chiron.

    Speaking of Transiting karmic Saturn conjunct Chiron, (the inner wound) we also see that Transiting Saturn and hence, Chiron were also angled with a square from Transiting
    Atropos (marker of death asteroid) at 11 Scorpio which stationed over her natal North Node

    A secondary Fate of the Moira, called asteroid Lachesis which accompanies Moira and Atropos in pointing to death, happened to be transiting at 1 degree Virgo conjunct Regulus, the fixed star and conjunct her natal “Zeus” . Zeus is that
    Directed energy compulsive force that directs violence onto her.

    I think it was provoked by jealousy of someone she knew so this was personal in it’s scope of vengeance or anger displayed.

    Cupid and Venus seem to be saying this.

    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Coral Pearl Hall, missing 9/22/98 Flint, MI

    corrected natal (no time of birth):

    Such a lovely name Coral Pearl, for such a lovely young girl as she was.

    There seems to be a difference of opinion in two extremes from all I have read from the articles and on the WS forum links.
    1)That Coral escaped the tyranny of her home with an “adult male boyfriend” and went to LA area perhaps being used there by men .
    2)That Coral was murdered not long after that last phone call.

    No family member or friends have heard from her in 12 yrs.
    The relative she lived with moved and changed her name, and is not easily found
    And there is also a question of a lie detector test being given or sought.

    3)This is a cold case now, and seems to be quite inactive?

    I’ll give you what I see in her natal that may point in one direction or favor another.

    Sun is 28Virgo – square to Mars, Jupiter , semi-square Saturn and square to Neptune.
    This then is not a good way to start a life,…and the father archetype is severely stunted or non existant in a positive sense for this young girl,…and I say "young" because Coral Pearl was only 14 when she disappeared from the radar and up to that point, had a rather brutal existance.

    A quintile to Uranus, the creative aspect may suggest a purpose to the disappearance that she herself engineered.

    That’s one consideration we will consider when weighing this chart….Did she or didn’t she go willingly?

    When Coral disappeared, there was Transiting Pluto over her natal Uranus, a sure indicator of either abduction or something quite unexpected happening to her that would be life altering.

    Her natal Pluto that day was being transited by the Black Moon Lilith, that shadow consciousness, that often indicates transits of horror being visited upon us.

    Since we see Transiting Lacheses (the asteroid of a death indication…the length of life being cut), …hovering over her natal Sun or at 27degrees57minutes, coming to within one degree of exact orb when she disappeared.

    This then, is now weighing far more weighted towards death rather then creating a new lifestyle and going away on her own.

    Coral Pearl had a terribly hard life…..it is evidenced too, by her North Node (the soul’s purpose) conjunct fixed star “Alcoyne”….entering into the Pleaides star group.

    We see her Ceres (nurturing) conjunct Algol and close to Alcoyne and the NN. Very very sad life. This too, is another indication that death may have come early to her, especially because of Algol’s presence.

    Transiting Moira (fated asteroid for death) and Uranus (adbuction or the unexpected event) is squaring her natal “Hopi”….(ambush, knives stabbings, etc) and Transiting Hopi with Atropos (death asteroid) are opposed to her natal Jupiter (luck) and spiritual return (breaking the bonds here)

    I can see why people liked her and she had so many friends who truly cared about her.
    She had Jupiter conjunct closely to Neptune, giving her a certain allure and mystique about her, yet a quality that is hard to capture., a kind and generous Sagittarius happy spirit. In spite of it all, she could laugh.

    She had a lovely Trine to Jupiter, an outer spiritual planet with her harmony of this generous spirit to her Mercury.

    Sometimes, precious people simply do not stay here long, are taken early and their spirit is rejuvenated such as with this lovely girl.

    Her natal Toro (keyword: brutality,rage,violence) is conjoined with her natal Venus.

    Venus in the sign of it’s own sign, Libra – yet in the 25th degree (critical) semi-square to Uranus and conjunct to Toro and Pluto, leads me to believe that her soul took it’s flight around this point in time, and she left this earthy veil of tears behind her.

    She left this earth when the South Node was square to Transiting Pluto….And transiting Saturn opposed her natal Pluto and Transiting Black Moon.
    Her soul was ready and she left …..

    It’s so wonderful I think to have such a legacy of so many dear friends who think this well of you as she had.
    I’m sure she feels (and still feels) that love and it sustains her until you all meet again.

    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-19-2010 at 09:10 PM. Reason: heading
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Coral Pearl Hall, missing 9/22/98 Flint, MI

    I Am so greatful that you did this for me, from what I understand my suspicions are correct. Coral is no longer with us. Is there anything else you can tell me by reading her chart in more detail about what happened? I think you did a really good job explaining to me what the chart means but it still is a little confusing.
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    Coral Pearl Hall natal w/transits

    Quote Originally Posted by Melissa,coralsmyBFF View Post
    I Am so greatful that you did this for me, from what I understand my suspicions are correct. Coral is no longer with us. Is there anything else you can tell me by reading her chart in more detail about what happened? I think you did a really good job explaining to me what the chart means but it still is a little confusing.
    Hi Melissa:

    As I said via PM, we need that time of the last phone call to proceed with anything near clarity.
    The Natal stands as it is, with the transits she might succomb to, but of course the other people born on that same day and place are included for the same vibrations, and they didn't disappear, or not that we are aware of.

    This then, is the problem without a time of someone's birth. We can only generalize at best.

    Thanks for your support.
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Ok, I will work on getting Coral's time of birth also, and I called the journalist and left a message asking him for help getting the time she made the call. Hpoefully he can get it for me or help me get in contact with Melissa Pierce so I can ask her.


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    Hattie Brown missing presumed dead

    Very fitting that Fomalhaut is the Rising degree Star of this Ascendent in the Event Chart of "Last Seen on Camera" for Hattie Brown:

    The Desert Storm veteran is described as an outgoing woman — adventurous, kind and willing to help anyone.

    “She had a beautiful spirit,” Barbara said.

    Hattie was the first female sergeant in her platoon. She retired in 1998 and a few years later moved back home to help care for her ailing mother.

    http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=6159.0

    I'll post 2 charts....one her Natal (no time of birth) so a generic type of reading, and the other - the "Last Seen at Sheetz Convenience store" on Camera Event chart:

    Harrie had a midpoint conj. REGULUS between Uranus & Moira- I’m not surprised she died young, but this may have occurred even in the wars she was involved in.
    The Gulf War for one. She did have This Midpoint of 27Leo35min. and Regulus opposed to Chiron And when the transit of Neptune,Chiron and Jupiter came over this area of her chart
    The fated promise of Regulus was triggered and she metaphorically, fell from the top.
    No doubt she was looked up to and seen by her family as a hero figure, but Regulus will do this it’s a natal promise, to cut one down…..but by whose hand did this occur?

    The catalyst didn’t have to be a person…..she could have just as easily stepped on a live grenade!

    Hattie had her natal Saturn in Capricorn, thus exalted here in the sign of it’s own rulership…and Pallas likewise, conjunct Saturn in Capricorn. She was military through and through…a woman who liked the uniform and code of honor.
    When she was cut down, she had a Saturn transit going over her North Node in Virgo
    In minutes of an exact orb.
    The TNP Zeus was transiting over her Poseidon…a compulsion drive of directed energy and directed at Hattie..perhaps he put her in water ?

    Transiting Apollon (the multiplier) …was transiting over her natal Venus & Lacheses (the indicator of death) and the allotted time.
    Cupido at 16Sag, over her natal Juno 17Sag (jealousy, revenge) – (more then a passing interest, it appears to have been a sexually driven murder ) or personal enough to encourage some type of inner rage at the woman. The murder was one of abduction to possess (she had Persophone at 15degrees Sagittarius) so likewise, Persophone the asteroid of abduction, rape and kidnapping was also in the mix being transited and is possible here.

    The Sun & Mercury were transiting Hattie’s natal Atropos (the other asteroid we use for deaths)…and celestial lineups were there for her passing.

    As for who killed her? It was vicious because Transiting Hades conjuncts Vulcanus and Mars in her chart.And her Mars at 0Cancer was already a natal promise, as it’s in a critical degree as well as in “Fall” in the sign of Cancer, hence not working in her favor . As I said, she could have died in the Gulf War, but she did not. (the opposition of Mars to Jupiter the military)

    Instead it was this maniac who came about, and killed Hattie and burned her car completely, so that the evidence of perhaps him in the vehicle doing whatever he did, could never be known or seen.

    The M.O. doesn’t seem to fit, (the burned car with M. Harrington’s case at the concert that night) but I haven't really considered it yet as for a great in depth study of same.
    I did however, look at Morgan's "Last seen" chart posted here, and I found:

    ASC 7-8Gemini putting the DC cusp of the other at 7-8SAG (violence)
    Pluto was on the cusp of the 8th and the 8th cusp was critical at 1Capricorn
    (the 8th was the death of Morgan)
    11th cusp is Pisces and Uranus is in this house of opportunity
    The cusp of the I/C (end of the matter or 4th house) is 15Leo fixed with Mars at 0degrees Leo in the 3rd house.

    IF her nephew was labeled by the LE a “Suspect” which I have read, then why not post his date of birth since he was the last one to see her according to the camera photo?

    snipped:http://www.wset.com/news/stories/070...10.html?ref=rs
    http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=6159.0

    Nephew Considered Suspect in Woman's Disappearance
    07/27/09 1:17 pm

    Halifax Co., VA - Police are now calling the nephew of a missing woman a suspect in her disappearance.
    Derek Edward Brown was the last person seen with Hattie Brown. Hattie has been missing since mid May. She was last seen outside the Sheetz gas station near South Boston with her nephew.

    Police say the reward for the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in Brown's disappearance is now $10,000.
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Hattie Brown

    Natal without time of her birth:




    Event of Last seen on Camera before disappearing:

    Note that the Sun in the 3rd of the communications and camera....is conjunct Algol and Mercury and this is why I think at this particular time, her death was in the works...being recorded on the "skein of space and time" as Edgar Cayce termed the records of vibrations.... which is what we are picking up in this chart:



    The Ascendent rising is 3Pisces conjunct the fixed star “Fomalhaut” a Persian Royal Star known primarily for the ancients saying it is about “An Immortal Name”
    Perhaps it’s fitting for Hattie…to never be forgotten. The planet Neptune rules Pisces, and is found in the 12th house of hidden things, and conjunct this Ascendent. It is showing by it’s aspects (square Mercury and square Sun) that she was lied to in order to get her alone, perhaps taking off with her in the automobile that the killer eventually burned to a cinder. The evidence then, burned up.

    Since we do not have Hattie’s time of birth (although sometimes people can go down to the local courthouse and look up the records themselves if they have a mind to and the state allows for it)…and in this way we may see more, such as whether or not a relative of Hattie’s caused her demise. There is a way in the Natal Chart to scope out our relatives, type or relationships they may represent in our lives.

    For instance, the 3rd house cusp is the representation of our siblings, and from there we’d count 5 houses for the child of our sibling., or our neice or nephew.
    This is called “Derivative” houses in the natal chart sometimes used in Horary work as well.

    IF however, there is a suspect “named” by the LE or newspapers, and we have their dates of birth, we can scope them out as well, generically speaking as to the transits on the day Hattie went missing.

    Meanwhile for this event chart, we can see a few things easily enough.

    1)The communications house, the 3rd is the Sheetz convenience store, so that is easily seen as well Neptune mentioned above in the 12th (hidden house) it’s lies and deceptive quality here because it squares the 2 planets in the 3rd where the conversation was taking place, i.e. Mercury & the Sun.

    2) She was lied to, and left perhaps willingly in her automobile….with the perpetrator imo.
    3)Hopi (association with ambushings knives, etc.) is here the same degree as Moira (death) with Atropos (death) all in the 3rd house and conj. the 4th house cusp.

    4)The 4th house cusp or the house of endings, ruled by Gemini, is dualistic.Says one thing, but does another.
    The Part of Fortune here, for this event, is dire as it squares Saturn (her death )

    As I said, I’d like to see the named suspects dob, and time if possible…..to potentially rule him in or out.

    Secondary ruler or co-ruler of the Asc. is Jupiter found in the 12th, same as Neptune (primary ruler) found here. The Moon found in the 12th quincunx to Saturn in the 7th or others.

    Her death was designed during this point in time.
    No question about that.
    Last edited by Leomoon80; 11-18-2010 at 06:22 PM. Reason: add chart
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Hattie Brown

    Thank you, Leomoon. I am still digesting the reading, but am so very appreciative. I sent you a PM.

    Will try at my first opportunity to see if additional birth date/time information is available at the courthouse.

    I can tell already that I should pull the astrology books down and give them a read. It's been years.

    Thank you ever so much.

    JB

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    Coral Pearl Hall, missing 9/22/98 Flint, MI

    Leomoon80, Greg Hosmer, the detective on Coral's case, emailed me back. He only had LJ's birthdate, 1/09/1940. No time of birth. I asked him if he could get a copy of Coral's birth certificate, hopefully the time of birth is on it. Do you know when they started putting time of birth on birth certificates? But hopefully you can still cross reference them. Still haven't heard back from the journalist concerning the last phone call Coral made. I am sure he will get back with me soon. He has helped me with her case before.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-19-2010 at 09:12 PM. Reason: name removal- use INITIALS when party is not official POI/suspect in eyes of LE

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    Coral Pearl Hall, missing 9/22/98 Flint, MI

    Leomoon80, Detective Hosmer emailed me back, great news! I got Coral's time of birth, It's 9/21/84 at 10:28 p.m. Still no word from the journalist but sometimes he gets busy and I don't hear from him for a couple days. When I find out the time of the last call and info on Melissa Pierce I'll let you know. Can you please update Coral's chart as soon as you can? I am very anxious to see the results! Thanks for everything, Melissa
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-19-2010 at 09:13 PM. Reason: heading added

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