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    Quote Originally Posted by madelyn View Post
    Everything. One, it could explain the british connection and the money involved. Two, it signposts EB as capable of selling child porn for money. IF she'd do that, she'd possibly sell the child outright, or ATTEMPT to. Three, someone willing to sell pics of a child would think zip of murdering said child when LE was about to close in. Four, it could explain the "missing" part.
    More to this but I have a stomach ache from writing this much. Alka Seltzer and a good night's rest and I'll give u more tomorrow.
    I'm sorry you feel bad now.

    If you feel up to it tomorrow though I would really like to hear your theory and how you outline that theory and support it.

    I don't have a theory yet.

    At this point in time any theory could be valid. We just don't have enough info.

    Do I think it's a pedo? No I don't. But I'm not going to shut down anyone's theory before I've heard it. Take care, and feel better!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Possibly. I just wanted to have someone sketch out the pedo angle and how that would work. I have no clue.

    As for FBI sure they would probably look at the computers for anything. Including pedo contacts. I'm not sure they found anything they were listed as out at the dump searching for the mattress. Who knows at this point KWIM?

    Just was curious. JMHO.
    Kat, I'm following you. I also wonder if AB is taking LE on a wild goose chase. We just don't know much.


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    Theories by members are one of my fav parts of WS. I rarely come up with one very quickly, in fact it takes me so long it's a foregone conclusion by the time I come up with who did it.

    Prayers for Zahra


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I'm sorry you feel bad now.

    If you feel up to it tomorrow though I would really like to hear your theory and how you outline that theory and support it.

    I don't have a theory yet.

    At this point in time any theory could be valid. We just don't have enough info.

    Do I think it's a pedo? No I don't. But I'm not going to shut down anyone's theory before I've heard it. Take care, and feel better!
    I have no theories. I'm just speculating here at WS. My guess, which is a guess, is that it's 50/50 or better that EB was into selling ped pics online to rich creeps overseas, and that it impacted Z's well-being. Maybe someone wanted to see a video. Maybe Zahra was injured during the creation of one of these videos. Perhaps things went too far. Just a guess. No solid theories. As Scotty might say, "Damnit Jim, I'm an accountant, not a criminologist."
    Just tossing out some stuff my friend. Take care, and we can brainstorm more at another time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NoeticSoul View Post
    Thanks LOL loved the last one!

    Does anyone else find it strange that they posed for a wedding photo holding their marriage certificate as if it were a trophy? I found that odd. I mean.. I've been to allot of weddings and I've never seen anyone do that. Is it a a custom in AU? IDK
    Erm, no, it's not a custom here, and I've never seen it either, perhaps as a benefit for the immigration officials?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs G Norris View Post
    Erm, no, it's not a custom here, and I've never seen it either, perhaps as a benefit for the immigration officials?
    Or she told so many lies to family they probably said I will believe it when I see proof or something along those lines


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    Quote Originally Posted by simlyme View Post
    Lisa Hires new prominent attorney, OMG ,what next,

    http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=10752
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    I think that's a blog. I'm not sure if we can trust that source JMHO.
    MSM links
    http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/news/2...ase-ar-478084/
    http://www.dubslawfirm.embarqspace.c...law/4532635515

    Dubs is one of about 10 Catawba County attorneys permitted to defend clients facing the death penalty. Even though Baker has not been charged with Zahra’s murder, the case has gained nationwide attention and Hurley has decided that it is appropriate to appoint Dubs because of the likelihood that Baker will eventually be charged with the crime, Dubs explained.'

    and, also from article.....

    'Zahra Baker’s stepmother has been in the Catawba County jail since Oct. 10, and she’s had frequent visits from three people: her attorney Scott Reilly, attorney Lisa Dubs and private investigator Steve Elhers.

    Lisa Dubs confirmed Friday that she has been assigned to Baker’s case as provisional council. According to court records, Dubs’ role is to “Conduct a preliminary investigation, determine if the defendant is indigent and needs appointed counsel, and protect the defendant’s rights pending appointment of trial counsel.”

    So sounds like once they find EB indigent LD will withdraw in favour of a court appointed attorney to take the case to trial.

    Advice to EB: Plead now, while you still have good attorneys working with you to negotiate a deal, if you go to trial its the DP fo shizzer. JMO


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    I keep going over in my head what could have happened at first I thought medical neglect but given EB's suspected Muchausen by Proxy that would have given her lots of attention I am now thinking it was a deliberate act out of some sick type of jealousy as far as AB goes I think he is a weak willed person who wouldn't disobey her and helped her in the cover-up Someone had to have helped her being that Mattresses are involved IMO
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    Just a couple of thoughts to throw out:

    My husband and I have a pic of us signing our marriage certificate in Scotland. It was the photographer's prompting but after 3 years, 5000 miles, lots of court proceedings, a GAL investigation and a few grand to get us there I would have posed upside down hanging from the rafters had they asked me to. There was an extreme amount of both jubilation but also relief we'd finally made it. International relationships can be taxing at times to put it mildly.

    Also...just food for thought...AB wouldn't have to necessarily be 'dumb' to be preyed upon by a psychopath (narcissist, sociopath, whatever you want to call it). People afflicted with cluster b personality disorders are master manipulators. They are chameleons and can appear to be whatever you desire. My theory, IMO, is that EB sold AB a whole different novel and once he and Zahra were in the States they were stuck. Please realise I am not excusing the father's action/inaction. I told my husband (the step) that if I (the bio) ever hurt our kids I would expect him to nail my a$$ to the wall personally. And I would do the same.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mytime View Post
    They found the mattress near the trailer park.

    http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13297637

    This is also from your link and it is what one poster was searching for:
    "They need to come back and do some more," said Tabitha Haas.

    Haas said Adam and Elisa Baker were spotted in the neighborhood about three weeks ago.

    "They came here at night," Haas said.

    Peggy Johnson claims a few days later, "the most awful smell was coming up out of the manhole in my yard."

    She said authorities lifted the lid and looked inside, but only for a few seconds.

    "They's another manhole in the holler that they need to come back and look at," Johnson said.

    The place she talked about is hidden in a valley area behind a vacant trailer. It is in the same area where the couple was spotted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    Just a couple of thoughts to throw out:

    My husband and I have a pic of us signing our marriage certificate in Scotland. It was the photographer's prompting but after 3 years, 5000 miles, lots of court proceedings, a GAL investigation and a few grand to get us there I would have posed upside down hanging from the rafters had they asked me to. There was an extreme amount of both jubilation but also relief we'd finally made it. International relationships can be taxing at times to put it mildly.

    Also...just food for thought...AB wouldn't have to necessarily be 'dumb' to be preyed upon by a psychopath (narcissist, sociopath, whatever you want to call it). People afflicted with cluster b personality disorders are master manipulators. They are chameleons and can appear to be whatever you desire. My theory, IMO, is that EB sold AB a whole different novel and once he and Zahra were in the States they were stuck. Please realise I am not excusing the father's action/inaction. I told my husband (the step) that if I (the bio) ever hurt our kids I would expect him to nail my a$$ to the wall personally. And I would do the same.
    I tend to wonder about AB feeling 'stuck' in a foreign country with limited funds to leave coupled with his supposed falling out with his family over the move. He appears to me as the caveman type - i.e. 'man earn bacon, woman cook it'. Perhaps he found it difficult to accept defeat, call his mother and admit the move was wrong and ask for financial help and emotional support to bring himself and his daughter home. Just my opinion of course, one of the many possibilities we can throw around to arrive at some type of motive/conclusion.

    The pedo theory is more than likely impossible, just trying to wrap my head around why someone would want to harm such a beautiful and defenseless child.

    I still maintain there are a couple of issues here:

    1) Visa troubles for AB

    2) His apparent lack of judgement and the realisation he had made a huge mistake marrying her and relocating to the US.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SewingDeb View Post
    This is also from your link and it is what one poster was searching for:
    "They need to come back and do some more," said Tabitha Haas.

    Haas said Adam and Elisa Baker were spotted in the neighborhood about three weeks ago.

    "They came here at night," Haas said.

    Peggy Johnson claims a few days later, "the most awful smell was coming up out of the manhole in my yard."

    She said authorities lifted the lid and looked inside, but only for a few seconds.

    "They's another manhole in the holler that they need to come back and look at," Johnson said.

    The place she talked about is hidden in a valley area behind a vacant trailer. It is in the same area where the couple was spotted.
    What's a 'manhole' in the US? I call a 'manhole' the small entry area into a roof.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosee_Parker View Post
    What's a 'manhole' in the US? I call a 'manhole' the small entry area into a roof.
    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhole[/ame]
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    It's usually a hole leading to water and sewer drains. There is a heavy metal cover, usually round in North Carolina) that can be lifted so a man/woman can go into the sewer to work.

    It is a possible place to hide a body and should definitely be checked by police if there is a strong smell and it's located where E and A had been seen during the night a few weeks ago.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhole[/ame]


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    You beat me to it, Patty. : )

    The smell from the manhole really bothers me and I hope it has been thoroughly checked out.


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