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    Forensic Astrology - CASE REQUESTS only - #2

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    This is the place where you request Astrological help regarding a crime you may be investigating.

    Remember to include details:

    Date/time/place of Last Seen, date/time/place of Police Report, birth information on key players in the case including the Victim; etc.
    Requests should also include a link if applicable, to the thread where the case is being discussed out in the Missing Persons Forum along with mainstream media news links as back up to the info provided.


    Our House Astrologers will review the Forensic Astrology Request Thread at regular intervals, and time permitting, respond to Reader requests.

    THANKYOU~


    *NOTE regarding personal chart requests:
    When the Forum was in it's initial stages, the Core Astros agreed we would not do work on personal charts or requests regarding personal issues. In addition, we would NOT profit as a result of participation on the WS site. **This way, we maintain the focus of our presence and the integrity of the Forum.**

    Now, if the passing of your relative is questionable, an unsolved case regarding the events or circumstances leading to his/her end or disappearance, then of course it would be acceptable for any one of the Astrologers to work on your request
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    Ronald & Christine Jabalee Murders-Bodies Discovered 10-7-2006-New Baltimore, MI


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    We have open a thread dedicated to the JABALEE Murders.

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    Ron Jabalee was recently acquitted by a jury of murdering his parents, Ronald & Christine Jabalee. Can we take a look at a few charts for this case? I would hate to think someone has gotten away with their murder. Perhaps there are some astrological indicators of who the killer may be and what the motive was ...

    (Father & Son share the same first name and are intermittently referred to as Ronald and Ron. Father is Ronald G. and Son is Ronald F. It can be a little confusing, so I suggest Ronald for father and Ron for Son in any future discussions)


    The Happy Jabalee Family



    Ron and Christine Jabalee, a loving couple with three children and many grandchildren, were murdered in their New Baltimore, Michigan home on October 6, 2006.

    Ron and Christine Jabalee seemed to live a picture-perfect life, with a beautiful home, three children -- Ron, Nikki and Ryan -- as well as several grandchildren. The entire family makes their living in the food industry: the elder Ron in the sales department at Sherwood Foods, and the rest of the family at RJ's Meats, son Ron's store in downtown Detroit. Friday, Oct. 6, 2006 was an ordinary day for the Jabalee family, but everything came to a crashing halt that night.

    On Friday nights, Ron always called his son to see how closing at the store went. But on Oct. 6, he didn't call.

    The next morning, when neither Ron nor Christine arrived at the store for work, all three children began to panic. Rosie, Ryan's girlfriend, went over to the Jabalee home to make sure everything was okay, but what she found was a gruesome crime scene.

    Ron and Christine were lying in the garage, and there was blood in the driveway. When the police arrived, they described it as one of the most brutal crime scenes they had ever seen.


    The letters that remain could be s, n, c, e, i, j, g, or d.

    More at Link ...
    ttp://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=47320
    Event Chart Details
    The Jabalees’ bloody bodies were found about 9:30 a.m. Oct. 7th, 2006. It appeared that Ronald G. Jabalee’s body was dragged in from the driveway.

    Additional-Event Chart Details
    The only eyewitness testimony was murky, as a neighbor of the victims testified he saw a dark-colored vehicle leaving the victims’ house at 1 to 1:30 a.m. on October 7th, 2006. But Ronald Jabalee drove a white Silverado and there was no evidence he used his wife’s truck, despite implications by the prosecution.

    Possible Motive Connected to Brother?
    But the defense attorneys said prosecutors failed to tell the grand jury about Roger Jabalee, 51, who was convicted and sentenced in circuit court to nearly seven years for making several powdered cocaine sales in spring 2007 to undercover police in St. Clair Shores. He was considered a mid-level dealer.

    Roger Jabalee told New Baltimore police that the "Highwaymen" motorcycle club was not happy with him, according to the defense. Members of the club have been indicted and are awaiting a federal trial.

    Law enforcement officials also were told another motorcycle club may have had something to do with the killing, the defense said.

    Roger Jabalee also "chronically" borrowed money from his brother and "attempted to borrow money from his brother a few days before the homicides," the attorneys say.

    Live Trial Blog Link
    http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/...onal-testimony

    DOB's
    Ronald Jabalee (Father/Victim) 3/18/48
    Christine Jabalee (Mother/Victim) 9/7/48
    Ron Jabalee (Son/Accused) 6/15/68
    Roger Jabalee (Brother to Ronald) 10/15/58

    If someone with a genealogy subscription can look up the place of birth for the above people I would appreciate it.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-24-2010 at 11:27 PM. Reason: link to dedicated Thread

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    Jabalee Murders


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    We have open a thread dedicated to the JABALEE Murders.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117982"]Forensic Astrology - JABALEE Murders discovered10/7/2006 New Baltimore, MI - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]






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    Knox:

    Could you verify the date of birth for Roger Jabalee?
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-24-2010 at 11:29 PM. Reason: link to dedicated Thread- also removed incorrect DOB to avoid confusion
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Jabalee Murders


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    We have open a thread dedicated to the JABALEE Murders.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117982"]Forensic Astrology - JABALEE Murders discovered10/7/2006 New Baltimore, MI - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]






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    I saw there were two conflicting dates ... looked up his criminal records.
    http://www.state.mi.us/mdoc/asp/otis...cNumber=550741
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-24-2010 at 11:30 PM. Reason: link to dedicated Thread

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    Kathleen Ann Shea- missing 3/18/65 Tyrone, PA


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    I was wondering if a cold case chart could be done on

    Kathleen Ann Shea
    Born February 2, 1959
    Missing March 18, 1965 from Tyrone, PA


    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._kathleen.html
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-29-2010 at 03:06 AM. Reason: link to chart CASE BRIEFINGS

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    Ray Frank Garcia - missing 8/15/05 Bellefonte, PA


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    Also I have another case

    Ray Frank Gricar
    Born - Oct. 9, 1945, In Cleveland, Ohio
    Missing - April 15, 2005 last seen Bellefonte PA


    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gricar_ray.html
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-29-2010 at 03:05 AM. Reason: link to Chart CASE BRIEFINGS

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    Kathleen Shea cold case


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puglover View Post
    I was wondering if a cold case chart could be done on

    Kathleen Ann Shea
    Born February 2, 1959
    Missing March 18, 1965 from Tyrone, PA

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._kathleen.html
    Oh, what a sad case. Thanks for bringing it up, as this little girl deserves to be remembered always.
    Only 6 yrs. on this earth, kind of reminds me of Kyron Horman's case because of the proximity to her school.

    We recall the vulnerability of such small children.


    I'll post her chart on the Case Briefings thread.
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    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Ray Frank Gricar Cold Case


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    Quote Originally Posted by Puglover View Post
    Also I have another case

    Ray Frank Gricar
    Born - Oct. 9, 1945, In Cleveland, Ohio
    Missing - April 15, 2005 last seen Bellefonte PA

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gricar_ray.html
    I think this one will be very difficult to determine without his time of birth.

    Meanwhile, I'll give you what I have thus far on Case Briefings thread.

    More Background:
    Last telephone call to G.F. at 11:30AM same day saying he was driving
    towards Lewisburg, Union county Pa.Found car near the Lake

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gricar_ray.html


    1)issues with depression and being tired
    2)Got along better with one ex wife then the other ex wife
    3)Brother committed suicide many years before Ray disappeared and found in a River in Ohio.
    4)Had a girlfriend and she has never been suspected and was waiting for him
    5)Was a District Attorney who had potential enemies from his prosecutions
    originally theorized
    6)Was perhaps seen outside an Antique store waiting for someone (not known for certain)
    7)Vehicle shows someone in it was smoking, (he was not a smoker himself)
    8)Computer harddrive from his laptop had been deliberately taken out and found degraded 3 ½ months later in the water

    Sounds like they have pretty much ruled out foul play in year 4 disclosure:

    April 15, 2009: On the fourth anniversary, investigators disclose that before he disappeared, someone using Gricar’s home computer searched the Internet for information on “how to wreck a hard drive,” “how to fry a hard drive” and “water damage to a notebook computer.”
    “To me, it looks like it absolutely knocks out the theory of foul play.” — Tony Gricar, April 15, 2009

    Year 5:His bank records and cell phone records still show no activity.

    Read more: http://www.centredaily.com/2010/04/1...#ixzz13hIk4BxT
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 10-29-2010 at 03:05 AM. Reason: added updated background info.; link to Charts CASE BRIEFINGS
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    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Arson Fires in Pa. - multiple in same borough


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    Hello esteemed astros! I know you focus on missing people but I have a request (not that I know exactly how you would analyze it.) I live near a borough of about 2300 people. In the last 6 months, there have been a series of arsons. The people of the borough are afraid to sleep at night, they are on the verge of vigilante justice, which is not a good thing. The perp(s) are getting bolder and bolder. This past weekend they removed siding from 2 houses and lit the fire underneath the siding.

    I am linking to an article in our paper that lists times and dates of the fires. Is there any sort of analysis you can do on the fires. Can you determine an astro pattern or determine if all are truly linked to a single perp / group of perps?

    Thanks for listening! I understand there are more important analyses to be done here but was hoping for some insight on this terror in our midst.

    http://republicanherald.com/news/fir...ille-1.1053661
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    Arson Fires in Pa.


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    Since this is an ongoing Arsonist signature, I think it may need to be on the Mundane Events thread for many charts may be the outcome as well, eventually the perp will no doubt be caught.

    It appears however, it could be awhile, so I'll post this initial and first Arson under the thread called "Mundane Events" unless it is moved as not belonging there, expect to see it there initially or possibly moved to the "Case Briefings" thread.
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    I would like someone to try to do a chart on my step-brother who passed away on May 16, 1982. Probably around 2:00-2:30 a.m. His name is Kenneth Walstrom, Jr. lived in Snow Shoe, PA 16874.
    He was born June 19, 1963 in Philipsburg, PA 16866 Somewhere between 4:00 a.m. - 5:00 a.m. Sorry since it has been so long ago, there isn't a link.

    Can an astrologer provide me with any information pertaining to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puglover View Post
    I would like someone to try to do a chart on my step-brother who passed away on May 16, 1982. Probably around 2:00-2:30 a.m. His name is Kenneth Walstrom, Jr. lived in Snow Shoe, PA 16874.
    He was born June 19, 1963 in Philipsburg, PA 16866 Somewhere between 4:00 a.m. - 5:00 a.m. Sorry since it has been so long ago, there isn't a link.

    Can an astrologer provide me with any information pertaining to this?

    Dear Puglover,

    We are truly sorry to hear about the passing of your young step-brother.

    I am sorry to say we do not do personal charts or works on personal issues.

    A little background about this Forum and policies..
    When the Forum was in it's initial stages, the Core Astros agreed we would not do work on personal charts or requests regarding personal issues. In addition, we would NOT profit as a result of participation on the WS site. **This way, we maintain the focus of our presence and the integrity of the Forum.**

    Now, if the passing of your relative is questionable, an unsolved case regarding the events or circumstances leading to his end, then of course it would be acceptable for any one of the Astrologers to work on your request.

    I trust you understand.

    Thank you,
    FIFTHESSENCE



    *Otherwise, you might visit this professional organization linked below:

    The American Federation of Astrologers. Many resources are provided including links to professional associates.
    http://www.astrologers.com

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    I guess that I am a little confused. I thought that the personal charts meant living. I guess that I did not know what the difference is whether I ask a chart to be done on someone else brother who passed. My young step-brother's death was considered suicide so I was trying to get any information as if this was correct or maybe what had gone wrong as he was not acting depressed. There was no autopsy done on him and he was found in his bedroom at the house. No one was at the house at the time. I apologize for asking for something that is against the rules. Please delete the posts.

    Thanks

    Sorry for taking your time away from other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puglover View Post
    I guess that I am a little confused. I thought that the personal charts meant living. I guess that I did not know what the difference is whether I ask a chart to be done on someone else brother who passed. My young step-brother's death was considered suicide so I was trying to get any information as if this was correct or maybe what had gone wrong as he was not acting depressed. There was no autopsy done on him and he was found in his bedroom at the house. No one was at the house at the time. I apologize for asking for something that is against the rules. Please delete the posts.

    Thanks

    Sorry for taking your time away from other things.
    No need to apologize Puglover.

    Appreciate your explanation for the inquiry. Makes sense. Has nothing to do with living or deceased or a relative or not in terms of the Astros doing 'personal' charts.

    You have a QUESTION about his passing as it was ruled a suicide yet no autopsy was done. So in your mind and possibly that of others in the family, the 'suicide' did not seem to fit. Therefore, it is unresolved in the eyes of the family.
    You want to know if it was or wasn't a suicide and possibly the circumstances of his passing. OK
    UNDERSTOOD.

    *where (source) are you getting the 'times' provided? Time of death and Time of birth. This info (correct times) would help out tremendously in terms of extracting more reliable info from the chart.



    **I believe LEOMOON will be looking into your request.
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    Stepbrother potential suicide


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    Fifth Essence has determined your request to be okay for us to take a look at, and I have.

    Before I post the chart however, I did use 4:30AM as a time of birth for my initial look. The time seems to be a little off, although I can still use it if it's approximately then, per his mother and as long as not too far off from 4AM-4:30AM or so. We may not get exact however as we might as if we had the perfect time the soul entered into this plane.

    I know for some reason or other, oftentimes, we get confused at times of our loved ones and it must still be very raw pain for her.

    It does appear to me however that taking his own life as hard as it may be to reconcile, seems plausible in his case.

    Let me know if this is the best time of day you can come up with and I'll post the chart for you.
    I did google his name and found his date of birth registered with his School and then the response on the School's blog. is that he was born June 19th, 1962 and not in 63. Possibly you made a typographical error, but they do also have his date of death.

    Here is the Blog:
    http://www.reunion.com/kennethwalstrom/
    Scroll down a bit until you see Bald Eagle Jr.-Sr. High School

    Gives the date as 1962, correct month and day and date of death
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    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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