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  1. #46
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    SHANTINA SMILEY 7 son AZRIEL CARVER '09

    Hi, I'm sorry if this has been requested, and I missed it. I do not have a search option so cannot take a comprehensive look.

    Shantina Smiley
    DOB: May 6, 1980
    Went missing: 3/13/10, near Olympia, Washington (she did not live there, but pulled off the highway during a trip and evidently never made it back on, even though people gave her directions).

    8-year-old son, Azriel: 11/28/2001, his body washed ashore several days later, ruled an accidental drowning, about 12 miles from where their partially submerged van was found (although his obituary gives a 3/18 DOB, the date his body was found).

    No sign of Shantina then or since.

    I could not find places of birth.

    Her fiance told press she's a recovering alcoholic who relapsed a week earlier. She talked to people in Olympia and even knocked on doors -- one couple gave her son a slice of pizza. From reports, she seemed to be disoriented.

    A homeowner who lives near where her van was found (a very isolated spot that police say is difficult to find unless you know the area (which she evidently did not) called police when someone was banging on his garage door at about 1 a.m. Sunday (14th) morning.

    --She had an old protection order against a former fiance. From 2005. Lifted in 2006.
    --She met her current fiance, Robb Simmons, on the internet 3 years ago; no one has suggested he is a person of interest
    --Azriel's father lives in New York (was not in the area)
    --She had been investigated for abusing (ruled unfounded) and neglecting (took him out of the home for awhile) her son, sounds like issues stemmed from the alcoholism; not a problem when she wasn't drinking
    --Shantina's mother committed suicide about 4 years ago

    Here's a link to one of the initial news reports. I hope it's ok to post.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/shan...ry?id=10116896

    They believe Shantina drowned, too, but her body has not been recovered. Kind of haunts me, in part because my daughter lives in the area, but also because missing women seem to be a trend in that part of WA.

    Thanks,
    Janet
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-21-2010 at 10:54 PM.

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    Shantina Smiley missing mom WA

    Ref:
    Hi, I'm sorry if this has been requested, and I missed it. I do not have a search option so cannot take a comprehensive look.
    Here is a link on WS for her.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101661"]WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, Msg, & Azriel Carver, 8, found deceased, Mar 2010 - #7 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame] (original one)
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...hantina+Smiley (later one)


    I'll look at her chart later, and post it on the Case Briefings thread
    Last edited by Leomoon80; 11-21-2010 at 01:29 PM. Reason: add header
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    SHANTINA SMILEY & son AZRIEL CARVER

    Charts & analysis were posted back in March '09 in our CASE BRIEFINGS Thread.

    Do have a look at the work that has already taken place on this sad case.


    SOULSCAPE: (Last Seen/Car found/Natal consideration)[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4939317&postcount=372"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 1[/ame]

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ey#post4939317

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4941658&postcount=385"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 1[/ame]


    I see LEOMOON has added a post over in the CASE BRIEFINGS Thread #2, so visit it as well.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-21-2010 at 11:09 PM.

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    Andrew Mullins- found shot 11/21/10 Schuylkill Haven, PA


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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5832850&postcount=50"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]



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    Is it possible to determine if a shooting was an accident, suicide or murder from the time of the 911 call or officers responding? The person did not die at the scene but at a later time in the hospital.

    If so, AM, found 11/21/10 around 02:00 in Schuylkill Haven, PA (Schuylkill County).

    From local paper: A Pottsville man was listed in critical condition after he was found about 2 a.m. Sunday in Schuylkill Haven with a single gunshot wound to the head.

    A 27-year-old Pottsville man found Sunday morning in a house in Schuylkill Haven with a single gunshot wound to the head has died according to borough police.

    An autopsy was planned for Tuesday and the death was still being termed suspicious until the results of the autopsy are available.

    I don't want to link as this is so fresh in everyone's mind. bf and all of AM's friends are very disturbed over this as AM was a happy-go-lucky guy who was always smiling.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-22-2010 at 11:50 PM. Reason: heading added + link to Chart CASE BRIEFINGS
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    Andrew Mullins- found shot 11/21/10 Schuylkill Haven, PA-Suicide,murder,accident

    We seldom truly know people, as we think, or see the pain and inner turmoil they are in.
    This has always been so....All of us know someone who died by their own hand and we are left shaken and confused, as they always seemed so happy on the outside.

    People are very good about hiding their inner feelings...I know I've seen it over and over.

    I have the chart for you as requested and will post it later on Case Briefings
    however, IF you can find out his dob (date of birth) , this may help us further to verify my initial findings .

    Perhaps you can link to the Obituary when the funeral takes place, and that is a public publication or Link.

    Regardless, I will post the Event chart for you later today and send my heartfelt condolences to his family.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-22-2010 at 11:47 PM. Reason: heading + link
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5832850&postcount=50"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]



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    The thanks button wasn't enough. I will look for a DOB and if I can't find it today it should be in the obit (tomorrow most likely). Could it be by his own hand yet accidental, as in a sick game?
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-22-2010 at 11:53 PM. Reason: link to Chart CASE BRIEFINGS
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    Question Andrew Mullins - Murder,Suicide or Accident


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    LEOMOON has posted charts in the CASE BRIEFINGS thread.



    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5832850&postcount=50"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]



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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorpRising View Post
    The thanks button wasn't enough. I will look for a DOB and if I can't find it today it should be in the obit (tomorrow most likely). Could it be by his own hand yet accidental, as in a sick game?
    Although I'm not much on proving astrology as an art, because all of us who love the art know it works, and the only time it does not work is when some information is either
    a)off i.e. incorrect info.
    or
    b)due to the skill or lack of skill of an astrologer

    I still like to hone my art, so I will post the chart for you now.

    I'm doing this not to say 100% in which way this unfortunate soul died,
    but rather to show those who are fascinated by astrology itself, that
    this point in time, as well as the place in time created a Celestial harmony with the act or event which then can be seen .

    The symbols then need (as with the Fire / Arson thread) to be unraveled and read for what they possibly can mean and sometimes they can be quite
    similar (meaning deaths by mode or manner)....

    This then, is where the Astrologer's years of honing their skills takes play and can be seen.

    I'm still learning......about Forensics Astrology which means reading charts somewhat differently.

    That is why I'd like to see the Date of Birth to compare/contrast with the Event chart.

    Meanwhile, I thank you for the opportunity to "hone" my skills even though as I said, I don't care for tests. (never did even in high school), lol
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-22-2010 at 11:52 PM. Reason: link to Chart CASE BRIEFINGS
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Andrew Mullins- found shot 11/21/10 Schuylkill Haven, PA-Suicide,murder,accident

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5832850&postcount=50"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]



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    Found it... it didn't take much... 9/11/83

    ETA @ Pottsville, PA
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-22-2010 at 11:51 PM. Reason: adding birthplace
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    Andrew Mullins- found shot 11/21/10 Schuylkill Haven, PA-Suicide,murder,accident


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    LEOMOON has posted charts in the CASE BRIEFINGS thread.



    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5832850&postcount=50"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]



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    Background of Event chart: (for post 50)


    http://republicanherald.com/news/pot...aven-1.1067263

    http://republicanherald.com/news/man...dies-1.1067327

    http://www.wnep.com/wnep-schyl-haven...,3237084.story
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-23-2010 at 12:29 AM. Reason: heading + link Chart CASE BRIEFINGS
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    3 Skelton brothers missing - Last Seen 11/25/10 Morenci MI.

    Good afternoon Astros...Can you do a chart for the three missing boys from Morenci, Michigan?

    1. Andrew Ryan Skelton, DOB 11/20/01
    2. Alexander William Skelton DOB 11/04/03
    3. Tanner Lucas Skelton DOB 10/20/05

    Mother: Tanya Lynn Skelton DOB 09/14/66

    Last indepentent sighting was Thursday, 11/25/10, by a neighbor at approx. 2:30 p.m.



    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5849961&postcount=64"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - # 2[/ame]


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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121082"]Forensic Astrology - 3 SKELTON BROTHERS MISSING - Last Seen 11/25/10 Morenci MI. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]




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    Thread in the Missing/Located forum: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120840"]MI-AMBER ALERT: 3 brothers, Morenci, 26 Nov 2010-Father gave them to woman met online - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

    TIA
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-30-2010 at 08:17 PM. Reason: link to DEDICATED THREAD
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    Skelton brothers missing - Morenci MI.

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121082"]Forensic Astrology - 3 SKELTON BROTHERS MISSING - Last Seen 11/25/10 Morenci MI. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]




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    I'd like to know the father's dob if at all possible. He was the last one to see the children as far as we know.
    I'll post a chart for the neighbor's sighting of them, and hope that I'm wrong and that we'll have good news soon.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-30-2010 at 08:16 PM. Reason: link to DEDICATED Thread
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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    Leomoon - Just asked on the other thread...Will post when the info. is given. Thank you.
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-30-2010 at 08:15 PM.
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    We have opened a new Thread dedicated to the 3 MISSING SKELTON BOYS




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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon80 View Post
    I'll post a chart for the neighbor's sighting of them, and hope that I'm wrong...
    Well I don't like the sounds of THAT!
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-30-2010 at 08:15 PM.

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    3 Skelton brothers missing - Last Seen 11/25/10 Morenci MI.


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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121082"]Forensic Astrology - 3 SKELTON BROTHERS MISSING - Last Seen 11/25/10 Morenci MI. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]




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    Quote Originally Posted by Leomoon80 View Post
    I'd like to know the father's dob if at all possible. He was the last one to see the children as far as we know.
    I'll post a chart for the neighbor's sighting of them, and hope that I'm wrong and that we'll have good news soon.
    Special thanks to dizzylou...father's DOB is 11/22/71
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 11-30-2010 at 08:14 PM. Reason: link to DEDICATED Thread
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    Jean Marie Berlinghoff missing


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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121088"]Forensic Astrology - JEAN BERLINGHOFF LastSeen 11/10/10 Redding, CA possibly w/UNCLE - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]




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    Was Jean Marie born in Redding California?

    Is it possible to get the time of birth of the uncle?
    Last edited by FifthEssence; 12-09-2010 at 08:50 PM. Reason: link to DEDICATED Thread
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

    Wikipedia

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