Leomoon80
Well-Known Member
Trying to create a shortened synopsis of this case:
Ref: post 3 Ron Jr's natal time unknown:
Wow, big drug problem I think with all those Neptune squares and quincunx aspects which shows us health issues with Neptune as a focus.
The Sun (personality) ,Venus (social life and affairs) ,Mars (personal energies) and Saturn (lack of self-discipline ) all quincunx to Neptune. That speaks of drugs in the sign of Scorpio near the 25th degree
Im not surprised he got wrapped up in a murder indictment.
But also exonerated, even with his Mars square Pluto. He needs to be careful in life, he could end up prematurely dead himself.
All those many squares to Pluto it appears he was moreso vibrationally, his fathers son then the mothers astrologically speaking, has a similar chart when it comes to controlling others, manipulations and Scorpionic tendencies as the late Ron had the malefics Mars and Saturn conjunct his Pluto.
The natal charts I have for this family are from 2007, just after the murders occurred and I have both parents time of birth on them, however, I cannot post them because to tell the truth I cannot recall where I found the dates of birth. I believe it was the family, but yet now are unverifiable.
But if correct, the father has Gemini rising, (like the sons major signature) and Christine had Venus on the Ascending, and must have been a beautiful woman herself with Cancer Rising.
Both were born in Detroit Michigan.
As for him telling the police, I may have done it while sleepwalking , well that is possible he was part of the planning and even act.
After all, he had transiting Hades (crime-related, deeply buried sordid, unpleasant overtones from the past are all Keywords for this TNP)
And it was going over his Sun/Mars at 26Gemini at this point in time.
Some have theorized that he wouldn't be guilty and say such a thing to the police however, actually, there have been prior precedence for getting a break from the courts and juries, during Sleepwalking crimes.
Another TNP being Kronos rx was positioned at 3Cancer over his natal 3 Cancer Vulcanus and the keywords here:
(for Kronos? The ultimate in authority) and Vulcanus All that is mighty and powerful. Strength and Intensity Energy in the extreme that is also compulsive
I realize I called this chart exonerated but now I wonder was he really? There is no statute of limitations on murder and wasnt there simply a question because of the truck being seen that there indeed was more then one person involved here?
For others who may pursue this unsolved and now opened case, I'll post the 1:15 Event chart because it falls between the testified 1 to 1:30AM timeframe that the truck was seen leaving the house the next morning although it appears also from the charts that they were indeed dead prior to this time in the garage approximately 3-3.5 hrs. before or the late hours of the 6th of October. For the death I used just after 10PM.
Perhaps some other astrologers here will be interested enough to carry forward with this investigation and the charts can then become useful to them too, although most Astrologers do like to use their own personal charts and tools I am now employing the TNPs for example.
(Trans-Neptunian Uranians as they are termed, being hypothetical planets)
and not yet proven. Hades and kronos mentioned above are 2 of them as is Zeus and Apollon
Ref: post 3 Ron Jr's natal time unknown:
Wow, big drug problem I think with all those Neptune squares and quincunx aspects which shows us health issues with Neptune as a focus.
The Sun (personality) ,Venus (social life and affairs) ,Mars (personal energies) and Saturn (lack of self-discipline ) all quincunx to Neptune. That speaks of drugs in the sign of Scorpio near the 25th degree
Im not surprised he got wrapped up in a murder indictment.
But also exonerated, even with his Mars square Pluto. He needs to be careful in life, he could end up prematurely dead himself.
All those many squares to Pluto it appears he was moreso vibrationally, his fathers son then the mothers astrologically speaking, has a similar chart when it comes to controlling others, manipulations and Scorpionic tendencies as the late Ron had the malefics Mars and Saturn conjunct his Pluto.
The natal charts I have for this family are from 2007, just after the murders occurred and I have both parents time of birth on them, however, I cannot post them because to tell the truth I cannot recall where I found the dates of birth. I believe it was the family, but yet now are unverifiable.
But if correct, the father has Gemini rising, (like the sons major signature) and Christine had Venus on the Ascending, and must have been a beautiful woman herself with Cancer Rising.
Both were born in Detroit Michigan.
As for him telling the police, I may have done it while sleepwalking , well that is possible he was part of the planning and even act.
After all, he had transiting Hades (crime-related, deeply buried sordid, unpleasant overtones from the past are all Keywords for this TNP)
And it was going over his Sun/Mars at 26Gemini at this point in time.
Some have theorized that he wouldn't be guilty and say such a thing to the police however, actually, there have been prior precedence for getting a break from the courts and juries, during Sleepwalking crimes.
Another TNP being Kronos rx was positioned at 3Cancer over his natal 3 Cancer Vulcanus and the keywords here:
(for Kronos? The ultimate in authority) and Vulcanus All that is mighty and powerful. Strength and Intensity Energy in the extreme that is also compulsive
I realize I called this chart exonerated but now I wonder was he really? There is no statute of limitations on murder and wasnt there simply a question because of the truck being seen that there indeed was more then one person involved here?
For others who may pursue this unsolved and now opened case, I'll post the 1:15 Event chart because it falls between the testified 1 to 1:30AM timeframe that the truck was seen leaving the house the next morning although it appears also from the charts that they were indeed dead prior to this time in the garage approximately 3-3.5 hrs. before or the late hours of the 6th of October. For the death I used just after 10PM.
Perhaps some other astrologers here will be interested enough to carry forward with this investigation and the charts can then become useful to them too, although most Astrologers do like to use their own personal charts and tools I am now employing the TNPs for example.
(Trans-Neptunian Uranians as they are termed, being hypothetical planets)
and not yet proven. Hades and kronos mentioned above are 2 of them as is Zeus and Apollon