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    Has this been posted here before?

    Several times during the day, the investigators stood shoulder to shoulder to hide the evidence that was being collected. Crews started the search Wednesday. They've been out here all day today. They were also removing pieces of paneling from inside the home and removing furniture.
    One of our lovely ladies posted several pictures with this paneling. So either it has or may have evidence on it or they were tearing into the walls looking for her.


    http://charlotte.news14.com/content/...home-continues
    Last edited by sunsetbeach; 10-29-2010 at 11:39 PM. Reason: Crap I'm so tired I forgot the link.
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    This maybe the light used in the the pictures at the house interesting it detects blood that has been painted over I think that they painted and that is why they took paint brushes as evidence
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsleuther View Post
    I'd like to comment on this.

    EB had once described Z as the Dark Child...

    EB being female IMO would have suggested to AB about the puberty.

    Z may have been a handful for EB while she was babysitting for AB while he is working and Z may have been getting into trouble from EB.

    EB may have described the problem as Z brooding, growing up, going through changes, being a pain etc

    AB had mentioned and he has been through a lot with Z, that when she is sick he leaves her be.

    We would only know that by asking AB where he got the brooding story from but 10 year old's whether they have prosthetic legs and hearing aids can be a handful at times and if EB can be irritated easily Z would have been a thorn in EB's side.

    A question for the guys, how involved would you be in the puberty part of your daughters life compared to what a female role model in your house if you have one would be? Like is that a subject you can comfortably hold a genuine conversation about?
    I tend to agree with this, not that I'm excusing the Dad but I agree about the puberty part of it and the stepmom.


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    I'm back! I had to stay away because DH was feeling neglected and beginning to think that I was obsessed!

    I was hoping that today was going to bring some closure after all the evidence collected on Thursday!

    DAMN!

    But I truly feel that LE has known from day 1 what happenned to poor little Zahra. They are being meticulous and we have to admire them for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    I would LOVE to think he had nothing to do with any of this but there have been too many lies the way he calls 911 it just all does not add up in my book. How could this man not know what going on with his daughter?
    He had to kniw his loving wife was not so loving. JMO
    I agree with your last sentence. I think she was in complete control in their house. I think she abused Z and AB and I think AB was afraid of her and didn't dare question her.


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    A few pages ago someone was wondering about Zahra's bio Mom and custody.
    I came across this news article that I had not read before so I posted it earlier today. I'll post it again for those wondering.


    snip...
    BBM.

    Adam, one of their four sons, moved to Giru about the same time with Zahra. The girl's biological mother was not part of her upbringing, family members have said.

    Karen Baker told the Bulletin, a newspaper based in Townsville, a large city near Giru, that she was responsible for much of Zahra's upbringing, caring for the child while her father worked in a nearby sugar mill.

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...-want-our.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetbeach View Post
    Has this been posted here before?



    One of our lovely ladies posted several pictures with this paneling. So either it has or may have evidence on it or they were tearing into the walls looking for her.
    Is there a photo or a link?? xx


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    Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat
    If you were going to report a child in your care missing, would you destroy every bit of evidence that she was ever even there? How on earth would you explain that?
    Sorry - this case has me frazzled and I worded that question poorly. LE had stated for some time they needed a time line, they appeared not to have any evidence Zahra had lived in that house - that is why I have questions concerning wether or not LE found anything with her scent for the dogs to use.

    Locals said there were fabric remains left from the fire. I think it is safe to assume LE is not tearing up that yard searching for just "whatever" - IMO they are looking for "evidence of a crime" and possibly "evidence of human remains".

    If the fabric was any of Zahra's linens that were on the bed she possibly died on and had prolonged contact with after death (say 12 to 24 + hours) or clothing that she had on at the time of death - would the dogs pick up on the scent of decomp after the fabric sat in mulch and went thru a fire? Or would the scent from the fire and/or mulch override the original odors in the soiled fabric?

    The mattress found in the land fill - after three weeks covered by "whatever" - is there any possibility of using it for the scent? Or is the value as evidence going to be if this was where Zahra possibly died and could have evidence she bled out from a head wound or decomp if she was left on it for a number of hours after death?

    If Zahra's clothing had been washed and as it appears, the mattress she slept on was removed - so it is possible the mattress found in the home was one that Zahra never had any contact with - where else would LE find something unique to Zahra to give the dogs her scent? Communal furniture that anyone in the home had used would not work - or will it?


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    When are they going to charge EB, AB or both with capital murder? I mean it is ruled a homicide, it is clear she wasn't kidnapped, nobody has seen her and even the legal guardians own statement shows they were the last to see her (even if that timeline is off) They should have enough to CHARGE someone now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by netsleuther View Post
    I'd like to comment on this.

    [snipped]

    A question for the guys, how involved would you be in the puberty part of your daughters life compared to what a female role model in your house if you have one would be? Like is that a subject you can comfortably hold a genuine conversation about?
    I'm not a guy, but I do have a hubby and three daughters, two of whom are teenagers, so I can attest to his reactions FWIW--

    He is completely comfortable addressing those issues with the girls and even goes to buy 'supplies' if necessary [and that includes chocolate occasionally]. I'm confident that if I died tomorrow, he could raise these girls very healthily all on his own, emotionally speaking. However, I think he's far from the norm (and I'm super lucky). On the other hand, there are some subjects that he is clearly uncomfortable with, and rarely will discuss with them. I think it depends, but I have known guys who don't even want their wives to tell them second hand ANYTHING about their adolescent daughters' "women issues". Just my thoughts, again, FWIW
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    There's always going to be one more isn't there?
    Yes unfortunately there will be, unless we can find a way to stop it.

    I wonder if we can have a thread/forum for discussions on how to help STOP this.

    More on what are the warning signs, what needs fixing in the system (practical ideas not just rubbishing) and petitions for ways to make the system healthier.

    JMO

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    When I had my first period I went to my Dad, not my mom for help.


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    Quote Originally Posted by netsleuther View Post
    I would not have mentioned puberty either but only a complete statement by AB will shed more light on the 911 call.
    I am still on the fence about AB...perhaps only because the idea of him harming or disposing of his own child seems so utterly horrific to me!

    Still, how many ppl start considering 'moods' when making a 911 call...about an abducted child?????????


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Sure didn't seem to bother AB to talk about it. In fact, he seemed to find the topic rather amusing. Just sayin'.

    But anyway, I'm not suggesting that EB didn't have more of a hand in dealing with puberty issues than AB did (if, in fact, there even WAS any begining stages of puberty, and I'm not at all convinced there was). I simply saying that the what, when and why of what he said on the phone to 911 operator sat wrong with me. That's all.
    It could also be considered a nervous laugh because of the topic. But the question is why did he feel the need to explain to the 911 operator why he hadn't seen his daughter since Thursday? That is what the issue is about that statement to me.

    The whole call sounds like he is talking to a detective at the scene and not the 911 operator who's only interest is to get the reason for the call, the crucial information and to get someone there.

    But then I didn't think that operator handled the call all that well either. She didn't really ask him anything about Zahra. Do you think it's because he was confusing her?

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    So, the grandmother was responsible for much of Zahra's upbringing. Regardless of what EB was, that does not explain to me why AB could not have taken a simple postcard and sent to Mom in Australia to let her know where they were and how to stay in touch with Zahra. Not considerate of Mom or Zahra. According to the letter from Zahra's friend from Camp Quality the grandmother said they had not been in contact. AB could make contact without EB knowing. Seems a mean thing to do but all just my opinion.


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