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    But not for Zahra yet..............

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    first time I saw LE looking for remains...........
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
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    I am wondering if it would be ok to send the email address to the people that thank me for the post. Thats seems to be the only idea I have about how to get the email address out without just putting it on the forum for everyone. Which would be better? Just needing some pointers here...still pretty new to this. Thanks


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    Wasn't the leg found UNDER some brush? If it was under something it could not have just been thrown out of the window.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisjusthurtsmyheart View Post
    I am wondering if it would be ok to send the email address to the people that thank me for the post. Thats seems to be the only idea I have about how to get the email address out without just putting it on the forum for everyone. Which would be better? Just needing some pointers here...still pretty new to this. Thanks


    When you have made a certain # of posts, you will be able to send personal/private messages to anyone who is a member. I am not sure what that # is? Maybe someone can jump in.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Im off here for the night. I have to be up early tommorow to go celebrate the life of a 96 yr old woman who died peacefully in her sleep as it should be ...May tommorow be the day they find sweet Zahra.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LOV3BNM3 View Post
    As far as I know he mentioned it on television when he was interviewed by GMA. He stated he left home (around 11 or 12) to go look at a job and when he returned he was working in the yard when EB came running out of the house telling him Z was gone
    That was the story, but if you listen to the 911 call he says he just got up and she was gone...that's not word for word but close.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    Thank you - I'm glad I wasn't the only one. I do agree though with the thought that there are other ways of identifying it, such as Zahra's DNA being on the inside, or just the fact that Zahra is missing, she wore a prosthesis, and they found a prosthesis which would fit a child. MOO
    is that where EB was taken during a search?
    Did she point to the area?
    IIRC eb IS A SMOKER (ABOUT CIG BUTTS) she holds a cig in a few pics
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    Still on page 1 of this thread so it probably has come up but I have a link to the International Star Registry where you can get cashback if you purchase a star...that might help cut cost for people who are interested.
    They are also not near as expensive as the roses.
    HTH and let me know if anyone wants the link.
    I thought of that earlier as something we could all donate for....looking up into the sky and seeing Zahra forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    That was the story, but if you listen to the 911 call he says he just got up and she was gone...that's not word for word but close.
    Not at ALL how I remember it. Going to listen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsidefox64 View Post
    I dont even pretend to understand how it works in OZ maybe some of our wonderful down under posters can help here. From what ive read here losing parental rights there is way different from here. I understand it that she is the only one other than AB that can obtain these records. It may just be less hassle for her to get them with her still being in the country. He may have a harder time obtaining them being in the US or he has refused to do it? JMO
    LE could probably subpeona Medicare records detailing every medical practitioner Z had been to in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    That was the story, but if you listen to the 911 call he says he just got up and she was gone...that's not word for word but close.
    Well I'll be dipped...he sure DID say that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    No, but I've wondered about that myself.

    Another thing I find puzzling (mind throwing out random stuff now)...how come LE had to go to Biomom for release of medical records? If AB is the legal custodial parent, wouldn't they go to him for that?
    Not from Oz, obviously, but this is what I found: (BBM)

    Amendments to the Privacy Act, 1988 introduced on 21
    December 2001, give patients a general right of access to
    their health information, including the medical records. In the
    case of children who are not capable of giving consent, the
    GP can disclose health information to a ‘person who is
    responsible’ for the child, including a parent. The Privacy Act
    does not specify that a parent must be a ‘custodial parent’.

    This allows flexibility in judgment when determining to
    whom to disclose information.

    AND

    In general terms, either parent of a young child is able
    to obtain information about the medical management
    of their child. However, exceptions may apply when
    there is a court order that grants sole responsibility for
    the medical care of the children to one parent,
    or where
    the general practitioner believes that disclosure of the
    information may pose a risk of harm to the children or
    other family members.

    From the pdf file located at this link:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    That was the story, but if you listen to the 911 call he says he just got up and she was gone...that's not word for word but close.
    oh ... haven't listened to the 911 call in its entirety, just bits and pieces. Thanks!

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    ADAM BAKER: The police were out here last night. They found a ransom note for my bosses daughter… um… I got up a little while ago… and it appears they took my daughter instead of my bosses daughter.

    http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/133516...edirected=true
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    is that where EB was taken during a search?
    Did she point to the area?
    IIRC eb IS A SMOKER (ABOUT CIG BUTTS) she holds a cig in a few pics
    Smokers usually have a favorite brand, knowing the brand of cigarette would be helpful too if cigarette butts can be found at search sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherlockHomey View Post
    Sorry, I do not remember the color. I said there were two of them because there was obviously one in Burke county where they were searching and I saw one myself in the back yard at the Hickory home.

    I will see if I can find a media photo of the chipper in Burke county if you like.
    This was the one in Burke I believe:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen730 View Post
    Maybe because they never took her to a doctor here!
    yeah but one would think AB could get access to her medical file in AU since
    1. he is her father
    2. has custody of her
    3. they are citizens of that country
    MOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsleuther View Post
    Smokers usually have a favorite brand, knowing the brand of cigarette would be helpful too if cigarette butts can be found at search sites.
    Does anyone know if DNA can be collected from butts??? (depending on the elements, if outside)

    Also, possibly lipstick? (far fetched, I know, but just brainstorming here...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    ADAM BAKER: The police were out here last night. They found a ransom note for my bosses daughter… um… I got up a little while ago… and it appears they took my daughter instead of my bosses daughter.

    http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/133516...edirected=true
    And in the ABC interview, he clearly says that we was out in the yard working and EB came running to tell him Zahra was missing.

    Does anyone have a link to where he said he went to check on a job?

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    Don't think anything can be seen in these pix but they were snagged from the gathering at the house - balloon release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westsidefox64 View Post
    I dont even pretend to understand how it works in OZ maybe some of our wonderful down under posters can help here. From what ive read here losing parental rights there is way different from here. I understand it that she is the only one other than AB that can obtain these records. It may just be less hassle for her to get them with her still being in the country. He may have a harder time obtaining them being in the US or he has refused to do it? JMO
    From my understanding the Bio mom lost custody. I haven't seen any info why. From my understanding from what I have read here from our loyal Aussies that their Gov finds the default parent liable. The Bio mom was found liable. I haven't heard why. Dad got custody and she was ordered to pay monthly installments by default, She lost he won.
    He now has custody and she pays, whether it be from her paycheck or any income she may have.That payment is done through the Gov. automatically.
    From what I understand Bio mom lost contact. I do question why she lost custody in the first place.
    He then meets SM on line and they marry in OZ and move to the US. According to Bio mom she has no clue about the move nor does Grandma. Until she searches the US facebook rather than OZ only.

    hinkymeter.com

    The duo moved to the US to start a new life with Zahra in tow, and IMO never gave a thought to her well being and happiness. Only them.
    Fill in the rest of the story, thats why we are all here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiWanBaniki View Post
    Does anyone know if DNA can be collected from butts??? (depending on the elements, if outside)

    Also, possibly lipstick? (far fetched, I know, but just brainstorming here...)
    Yes, absolutely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiWanBaniki View Post
    Does anyone know if DNA can be collected from butts??? (depending on the elements, if outside)

    Also, possibly lipstick? (far fetched, I know, but just brainstorming here...)

    unless i am mistaken, definitely

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    Quote Originally Posted by elepher50 View Post
    This was the one in Burke I believe:
    Thank you soooo much! The one I saw was much much smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Wasn't the leg found UNDER some brush? If it was under something it could not have just been thrown out of the window.
    it was reported that the leg was next (behind) a fence in some MSM I think. Gonna find a link

    Nope, only reference I could find was on the HM site my bad.

    CORRECTING ABOVE NO MSM REFERENCE TO LEG BEING FOUND BEHIND FENCE.

    It was found in some brush per MSM
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