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    Well, the defense certainly put up a fight so I can't imagine that the DP can be overturned on appeal. Let's hope the state of Conn. doesn't waste too much time and money on SH. I'm anti-DP but this is a case that screamed for it. May this bring some closure and comfort to Dr. Petit and the surviving family and friends.
    all my comments are just my opinion. jmho. moo. etc. etc.

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    Thank God the justice system came through...

    My thoughts are always with Mr. Petit. Blessings.


    Time to put down the other animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomom View Post
    oops! ok! I get it - you are at the courthouse?


    yep! get to spend more than my fair share of time on the stand!
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    I still cant locate live feed..but found this posted about 10 minutes ago~~
    Hayes Sentenced To Death In Cheshire Murders

    http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...,5315358.story

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCDRAW View Post
    I sat on a jury once and I almost cried when we convicted him. I knew he was guilty and deserved to go to jail but it was still hard. I can't imagine how hard it was to convict and suggest death. Hayes deserves death but I feel for that jury.
    Thanks, McDraw. I thought I was odd for feeling that way. I know a lot of people personally that have never sat on a jury and they are all soooo sure of how "simple, and cut and dried" coming up with a verdict is -when it's not!

    ADD: I just have to add this in to get it off my chest - as obvious as it is if someone is guilty, our legal system makes sure juries walk through a process, proceedures, steps, legalities, paperwork, etc. It is draining and serious and weighs heavy on your mind. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by gxm View Post
    Well, the defense certainly put up a fight so I can't imagine that the DP can be overturned on appeal. Let's hope the state of Conn. doesn't waste too much time and money on SH. I'm anti-DP but this is a case that screamed for it. May this bring some closure and comfort to Dr. Petit and the surviving family and friends.


    The average time on death row in Ct can be up to 20 years! The last two executions occurred "rapidly" only because the criminals asked that all appeals be STOPPED and even THEN the defense lawyers within the state took up the cause to continue the appeal process!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joypath View Post
    The average time on death row in Ct can be up to 20 years! The last two executions occurred "rapidly" only because the criminals asked that all appeals be STOPPED and even THEN the defense lawyers within the state took up the cause to continue the appeal process!

    Roughly - do you recall what "rapidly" meant? (3 yrs? 10 yrs?..)

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    I just want to say that I broke into tears when I saw this news. I remember listening to SP sentencing and broke into tears then too.

    I followed Laci's case, word for word, even reading the actual transcripts days after they happened and KNEW from early on he was guilty. But it's so heartbreaking when it's over. There are no winners in cases such as this. Death on both sides.

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    From the reaction of the jurors: this was NOT an easy decision!


    Contrary to the chat on the street, it was not cut & dry, these folks are torn UP! lots of tears, deep sighs and closed eyes but huge relief after being polled BUT no changes! And folks seem to be FALLING back into the chairs in relief after being questioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomom View Post
    Roughly - do you recall what "rapidly" meant? (3 yrs? 10 yrs?..)

    MEMORY only: Michael Ross' execution took 12 years (his crime: multiple deaths of minor females)
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    WOW! Change in plans! Going to sentence IT on Dec 2nd rather than today! Marshall not sure WHY but it was discussed at sidebar! and SA agreed! HAYES leaving the courtroom NO REACTION!
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    Judge chose to speak with jury in public: thanking them and reminding them that they need not talk to anybody and can be escorted out secretely if they wish, acknowledges that they saw things that they never thought they'd ever see and saw depravity.


    Welcome to my world of seeing depravity of human actions BUT at least I'm prepared for it, thankfully HOPEFULLY these folks will be restored by the knowledge that they achieved justice for a family
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    Joypath, that is surprising. Not sure why sentencing wouldnt happen today. since there is no presentence investigation/report necessary, this is a simple matter and takes only a few minutes. Sure seems like a waste of logistical resources to have to bring him back in a month for sentencing then.

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    Okay folks: SA chatting with media, family et al getting ready to leave, Dr. Petit did promise that he would speak AFTER the verdict so perhaps he will chat outside (many TV mics staged at courthouse steps!) and I've got a full afternoon at the office! Be well all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    Joypath, that is surprising. Not sure why sentencing wouldnt happen today. since there is no presentence investigation/report necessary, this is a simple matter and takes only a few minutes. Sure seems like a waste of logistical resources to have to bring him back in a month for sentencing then.

    TOTALLY agree! going to "snoop" and try to get some inside dope if possible...but not call in too many favors for this piece of fecal material, if you get my drift!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joypath View Post
    Okay folks: SA chatting with media, family et al getting ready to leave, Dr. Petit did promise that he would speak AFTER the verdict so perhaps he will chat outside (many TV mics staged at courthouse steps!) and I've got a full afternoon at the office! Be well all!
    I don't get to log in that often these days, but I want to give joypath a big shoutout and say THANK YOU for all that you do. I've been through many a major trial SAGA trial/penalty/punishment-phase myself (observer and wife of the prosecutor.....never an expert witness!) and I admire you so much. Just want to say Thanks, and I know just how draining the march to justice is. My heart aches for Mr. Petit and the Jurors. Take Care, and thanks for the updates!

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    Anyone know when exactly the next trial is scheduled? I just keep hearing "next year". That will be just as gut wrenching i'm afraid. Maybe even more so. The letter and diaries and the book will figure prominantly in that trial i imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    Anyone know when exactly the next trial is scheduled? I just keep hearing "next year". That will be just as gut wrenching i'm afraid. Maybe even more so. The letter and diaries and the book will figure prominantly in that trial i imagine.

    I think January

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    Anyone know when exactly the next trial is scheduled? I just keep hearing "next year". That will be just as gut wrenching i'm afraid. Maybe even more so. The letter and diaries and the book will figure prominantly in that trial i imagine.

    PrairieWind: here's the Ct website regarding courtsessions: http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/Cas...2-fca0912da1ef


    Please note: there is an obvious typo 12/20/2020 as the next activity date

    the actual beginning of the "trial" experience might begin in January 2011 with some of the extensive motions, DEFINITELY not the jury selection!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joypath View Post
    Okay folks: SA chatting with media, family et al getting ready to leave, Dr. Petit did promise that he would speak AFTER the verdict so perhaps he will chat outside (many TV mics staged at courthouse steps!) and I've got a full afternoon at the office! Be well all!

    I watched the interview with the family and it was heartbreaking.

    Dr. Petit's father-in-law spoke first and just broke my heart. His wife also spoke a few words and it is very clear that they are exhausted and thankful.

    Dr. Petit spoke and my tears flowed like water listening to him. He was so thankful for the prosecution, the jury, the press (even though he did get tired of having his picture taken so much), his friends and his family. He expressed he was fortunate he was employed and a physician as it seems the defense has unlimited funds for their case, but the victims do not. He spoke of his beautiful wife and how much she meant to him and how hard she worked for others. He talked about his lovely daughters, little girls to him, who were tortured and murdered in their bedrooms surrounded by stuffed animals. He said the medical examiner required someone identify the bodies and his sister and brother agreed to do that since he was in the hospital. When they returned from the hospital, Dr. Petit wanted to know if they could have an open casket service. By that time, I was crying too hard, I could barely hear what was being said.

    I am amazed at Dr. Petit's strength and courage in front of the microphones. I am afraid I would be so angry and bitter, that I couldn't speak as eloquently as he has done. Unfortunately, there is another long and dreaded trial looming in the near future for him and his family again. Another time of reliving that horrible night and hearing over and over again the heinous things done to his wife and daughters. I know he will again be surrounded by family and friends. I worry about him when this is all done as I feel right now this is his agenda....bring these pieces of scum to justice. I pray for strength for him and his family during the next trial and for the rest of their days as they have to live with the fact that 2 "men" decided to create a chamber of murder and torture out of their family home for no other reason than to be in control of others who have worked hard and have it better than they do.

    May God be with Dr. Petit and his family as they continue this sad journey they have been thrust into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browneyes View Post
    I watched the interview with the family and it was heartbreaking.

    Dr. Petit's father-in-law spoke first and just broke my heart. His wife also spoke a few words and it is very clear that they are exhausted and thankful.

    Dr. Petit spoke and my tears flowed like water listening to him. He was so thankful for the prosecution, the jury, the press (even though he did get tired of having his picture taken so much), his friends and his family. He expressed he was fortunate he was employed and a physician as it seems the defense has unlimited funds for their case, but the victims do not. He spoke of his beautiful wife and how much she meant to him and how hard she worked for others. He talked about his lovely daughters, little girls to him, who were tortured and murdered in their bedrooms surrounded by stuffed animals. He said the medical examiner required someone identify the bodies and his sister and brother agreed to do that since he was in the hospital. When they returned from the hospital, Dr. Petit wanted to know if they could have an open casket service. By that time, I was crying too hard, I could barely hear what was being said.

    I am amazed at Dr. Petit's strength and courage in front of the microphones. I am afraid I would be so angry and bitter, that I couldn't speak as eloquently as he has done. Unfortunately, there is another long and dreaded trial looming in the near future for him and his family again. Another time of reliving that horrible night and hearing over and over again the heinous things done to his wife and daughters. I know he will again be surrounded by family and friends. I worry about him when this is all done as I feel right now this is his agenda....bring these pieces of scum to justice. I pray for strength for him and his family during the next trial and for the rest of their days as they have to live with the fact that 2 "men" decided to create a chamber of murder and torture out of their family home for no other reason than to be in control of others who have worked hard and have it better than they do.

    May God be with Dr. Petit and his family as they continue this sad journey they have been thrust into.


    I could not agree more, just heartwrenching - my heart just aches for Dr. Petit and the whole family. Such strong Christians!!!!!

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    my heart aches also...May God bless and keep this heroic family forever.

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    Well gang I am a little late but am relieved that the DP came through, I was worried that with the amount of time it seemed to be taking that it might not happen. I pray that this gives Dr Petit and other family members a bit of solace on the part of Hayes.

    I wish the best for the jury members too, they have had to view and hear things that no one should have to. God Bless them all!
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    Not sure if this is a qualified source but according to it, CT has only 10 people on death row and only 1 that has been executed since the supreme court reinstated the DP back in '76.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Connecticut[/ame]



    Even if the sentance is never carried out having this monster on death row is better than letting him live in the prision's general population.

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    Jurors Favor Death in Conn. Murders

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/ny...er=rss&emc=rss

    "The trial was an emotional journey for the jurors, who were sometimes tearful as they reviewed photographs of the burned bodies and heard testimony about matter-of-fact confessions made both by Mr. Hayes and Mr. Komisarjevsky. Each man said the other had taken the night and morning on an unexpected path toward violence that had not been planned.
    Mr. Hayes claimed Mr. Komisarjevsky busied himself trying to send cell-phone photographs displaying the child he had abused to his friends during the crime. Mr. Komisarjevsky said Mr. Hayes’s rape and strangulation of Ms. Hawke-Petit “brought both of us to a whole different level.”
    The story of the crime “will break your hearts,” Mr. Ullmann, the defense lawyer, had told the jurors in his opening statement at the trial."

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