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    CA - Baker, BlkFem UP5820, 15-30, hit by car on I-15, Aug'76

    I noticed that NCMEC did a new reconstruction for this UID, so I am starting a new thread, though I have no possibles.

    I did the previous one for DoeNet, and since the PM photo didn't include the top of her head, I had to guess what her forehead and hair looked like.

    The two recons look pretty similar in terms of overall look. Although I was a little unsure about resemblance when I did the recon, I feel much better about it after seeing the NCMEC's version.

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 698UFCA
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/698ufca.html
    NamUs UP Case #5820 WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTOS AT LINK https://identifyus.org/cases/5820



    Unidentified Black Female

    * The victim was discovered on August 28, 1976 in Baker, San Bernardino County, California
    * Date of Death: August 28, 1976

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 15-30 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Short to medium length black hair (4” average), in afro style; hazel eyes. Obese abdomen. She had a 1.75” scar just below the naval, a 0.5” scar to the right breast, and a 1” irregular scar over the abdominal area. Earlobes had healed perforations. Fingernails had remnant of black polish.
    * Dentals: Available. All 32 teeth were present, in good condition, with no dental restorations.
    * Clothing: Dark pullover blouse, dark blue slacks. Brown slippers. Octagon-shaped black plastic prescription glasses. 25+100X90 on 4 base. 46X42 Octagon. 22 Bridge, temple 5.25.
    * Fingerprints: Fingerprints on file with the California Department of Justice.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 09-14-2014 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    I noticed that NCMEC did a new reconstruction for this UID, so I am starting a new thread, though I have no possibles.

    I did the previous one for DoeNet, and since the PM photo didn't include the top of her head, I had to guess what her forehead and hair looked like.

    The two recons look pretty similar in terms of overall look. Although I was a little unsure about resemblance when I did the recon, I feel much better about it after seeing the NCMEC's version.

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 698UFCA
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/698ufca.html
    NamUs UP Case #5820 WARNING POSTMORTEM PHOTOS AT LINK https://identifyus.org/cases/5820



    Unidentified Black Female

    * The victim was discovered on August 28, 1976 in Baker, San Bernardino County, California
    * Date of Death: August 28, 1976

    Vital Statistics

    * Estimated age: 15-30 years old
    * Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
    * Distinguishing Characteristics: Short to medium length black hair (4” average), in afro style; hazel eyes. Obese abdomen. She had a 1.75” scar just below the naval, a 0.5” scar to the right breast, and a 1” irregular scar over the abdominal area. Earlobes had healed perforations. Fingernails had remnant of black polish.
    * Dentals: Available. All 32 teeth were present, in good condition, with no dental restorations.
    * Clothing: Dark pullover blouse, dark blue slacks. Brown slippers. Octagan-shaped black plastic prescription glasses. 25+100X90 on 4 base. 46X42 Octagon. 22 Bridge, temple 5.25.
    * Fingerprints: Fingerprints on file with the California Department of Justice.
    Good recons.

    A scar just below the navel. Laparascopic surgery maybe? It wasn't all that common back then, more common for gynocological surgery than anything else.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 09-14-2014 at 10:16 PM.

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    She is in Codis now.

    I'm not finding any good possibles.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2159dftx.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8671/1/

    Debra Kay Stewart is missing since May 1976 from Texas. She caught my eye because she has a scar on one breast and a kidney condition that might have caused a need for surgery. However, she is two to five inches shorter and 20-30 lbs lighter than the UID and her DNA is in Codis too and apparently did not trigger a match, so it should be a rule out by default.

    The closest I could find in terms of LKA date is Barbara Kay Jolly missing from Seattle 6 days earlier but her dental info is entered in the system, so it's probably a rule out by dentals.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4935/0/

    Margaret Dash is pretty close in height and weight but she is too old.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2931/5/

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    I thought Jennifer Joyce Barton missing from TX looked like a good match. But she is listed as ruled out on namus.

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    Hey, I used to have a pair of glasses just like that!

    Black nail polish was pretty unusual in 1976, at least the great open spaces of the mountain west where I was.
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    Since today (Sunday the 28th) is the 40th anniversary of her death, I thought I would bump and add the ruleouts for this Jane Doe.

    Jennifer Barton 1955 Texas
    Barbara Jolly 1957 Washington
    Debra Kay Stewart 1956 Texas
    Gladys Williams 1951 Washington

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    Who was Walker County Jane Doe?




    John Doe - February 9, 1968 - Facebook Page, Websleuths Thread
    John Doe - October 31, 1967 - Facebook Page, Websleuths Thread

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    I drove through baker about a week ago. I'm sure that she was passing through to somewhere because it's pretty desolate. I dunno if people even live there really.
    Everything I ever say is my own opinion, I never intend to offend anyone!

    Who is Walker County Jane Doe?

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    I'm so glad they have DNA for this JD.
    All you need is love and. . . .(fill in the blank)

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    Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936
    Who was Walker County Jane Doe?




    John Doe - February 9, 1968 - Facebook Page, Websleuths Thread
    John Doe - October 31, 1967 - Facebook Page, Websleuths Thread


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    Wow, Jake. It couldn't hurt to check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake479 View Post
    Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936
    Looks like a good match!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake479 View Post
    Has Mabel Andrews been checked? findthemissing.org/cases/24936


    Mabel is being considered as a possible for one of the two Jane Does found in 1975 in Lake Mann.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html

    I don't know what is holding up the ruling on this comparison, but I am guessing that she will eventually turn out to be 727UFFL (UP1328).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post


    Mabel is being considered as a possible for one of the two Jane Does found in 1975 in Lake Mann.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html

    I don't know what is holding up the ruling on this comparison, but I am guessing that she will eventually turn out to be 727UFFL (UP1328).
    ((BBM) It's Florida. That's what's holding it up, LOL. I don't think they do the best job with their unidentified remains cases, IMHO.
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    thought she looked very diffrent on the two scethes of her and I couldn't see the post mortem photo on identifyus no longer.

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