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    Elisa Baker - Life Before Adam

    (My first ever thread - not sure if it's allowed? if not just remove)

    I'm very curious about what Elisa was like and what she did before she met Adam and Zahra, her upbringing, any other online romances or aliases, arrests, how she brought her kids up etc etc etc...
    Where do the lies and the fantasy life come from?
    Was she born this way, or did something traumatic happen to her, was it drugs?

    I did read her MySpace blogs before her account was deleted but all I remember is her supposed 3xbraincancer in the 90s. Why would anyone say such a thing, when the people who know you know it's not true? Why did she (if she did) wheel her kid around in a wheelchair claiming the child was ill when she wasn't?
    Where does this desperate need for attention come from? (JMO, but if you do this to your child you do suffer from a desperate need of attention...)
    How come some of her friends on FB were so quick to turn against her and not give her, a supposed friend, the benefit of a doubt? (I hope if I'm ever accused of anything my friends won't do that :/ ) What did she do to them?

    This is all I know:
    --she was married to AY for ten years. (Personally I kind of like him, I think he stayed on good terms because of her kids, they must have pretty much grown up with him. Not many stepdads/ stepmums do that -stay around-, and Zahra from the photos seems to like him)
    --she was married at least twice before AY
    --her mother died in the mid-90s, which sounds pretty young (did she possibly die of brain cancer? JMG)
    --her father mentioned drugs, but I wasn't able to watch all of the interview. Elisa is on drugs? What drugs? When did she start using?
    --she put her child in a wheelchair and told people she was seriously ill

    Anyone know anything else? Please post : )

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    GREAT first post!
    I asked the same thing on her father's thread.
    I do hope that he gives another interview on EB.

    What type of child was EB?
    Was she bad as a teen?
    Why so many men in her life?
    I wish some would tell what EB was like (good & bad)
    What attracted men to her???
    How she got her money.
    Why did she never work?
    Did EB always scare people?
    How long has she been goulish?
    Why didn't she raise her son?
    Does she really like kids or just had them?
    Did she abort any?
    When was her hysterecotomy?
    I do wonder if her mom died of cancer.
    Did EB get lots of attention having a sick mom?
    So so many questions.
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceInPain View Post
    (My first ever thread - not sure if it's allowed? if not just remove)

    I'm very curious about what Elisa was like and what she did before she met Adam and Zahra, her upbringing, any other online romances or aliases, arrests, how she brought her kids up etc etc etc...
    Where do the lies and the fantasy life come from?
    Was she born this way, or did something traumatic happen to her, was it drugs?I did read her MySpace blogs before her account was deleted but all I remember is her supposed 3xbraincancer in the 90s. Why would anyone say such a thing, when the people who know you know it's not true? Why did she (if she did) wheel her kid around in a wheelchair claiming the child was ill when she wasn't?
    Where does this desperate need for attention come from? (JMO, but if you do this to your child you do suffer from a desperate need of attention...)
    How come some of her friends on FB were so quick to turn against her and not give her, a supposed friend, the benefit of a doubt? (I hope if I'm ever accused of anything my friends won't do that :/ ) What did she do to them?This is all I know:
    --she was married to AY for ten years. (Personally I kind of like him, I think he stayed on good terms because of her kids, they must have pretty much grown up with him. Not many stepdads/ stepmums do that -stay around-, and Zahra from the photos seems to like him)
    --she was married at least twice before AY
    --her mother died in the mid-90s, which sounds pretty young (did she possibly die of brain cancer? JMG)
    --her father mentioned drugs, but I wasn't able to watch all of the interview. Elisa is on drugs? What drugs? When did she start using?
    --she put her child in a wheelchair and told people she was seriously ill

    Anyone know anything else? Please post : )
    BBMITA, we need some answers on all that.
    As for AY, we can't sleuth him, but I do not trust why he stayed around and befriended AB,JMOO
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    BBMITA, we need some answers on all that.
    As for AY, we can't sleuth him, but I do not trust why he stayed around and befriended AB,JMOO
    I agree.
    Racing Doesn't Lie

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    EB had (at least) 7 marriages (formal or defacto) including Adam.

    See the Criminal Records thread for aliases
    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118937"]Criminal History & Aliases - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    I have found men with matching names having shared addresses with EB for each alias listed there (6 of them). These do not include the high school classmate she married in 1985. That marriage was soon annulled, as reported by the media.

    Her criminal history shows her having used multiple surname aliases in overlapping time periods.

    It appears the woman cannot stand to be alone with herself.
    Last edited by agathawannabe; 11-05-2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason: fix typo

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    I think Elisa suffers from a Factitious disorder. JMO

    snipped:

    Factitious disorders are conditions in which a person acts as if he or she has an illness by deliberately producing, feigning, or exaggerating symptoms.

    more at link:

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder[/ame]

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    Not sure if I can ask this here or not, but where did she take the name Harris from? Was it a boyfriend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    I think Elisa suffers from a Factitious disorder. JMO

    snipped:

    Factitious disorders are conditions in which a person acts as if he or she has an illness by deliberately producing, feigning, or exaggerating symptoms.

    more at link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder
    Could be, or could be plain old malingering in order to get disability benefits.

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    just doing some searchs

    W/after Adam
    also add Elisa (Lisa) Baker
    and lived in AU for a few months

    Before Adam
    Names

    Putnam, Elisa Annette

    Possible Aka's:
    FAIRCHILD, ELISA
    HARIS, ELISA FAIRCH
    HARRIS, ELISA A
    PROCTOR, LISA
    PROCTOR, ELISA A
    YOUNG, ELISA ANNETTE

    Locations
    Cherryville, NC
    Granite Falls, NC
    Hickory, NC
    Kings Mountain, NC
    Lincolnton, NC

    http://www.veromi.com/Elisa-Harris.aspx


    On another site i found these you have to download the pdf of it
    http://www.wikiupload.com/G5LMklkF
    http://www.wikiupload.com/EHEzcJ6V

    Also addresses from her rapsheet

    3330 Cedar Valley Rd. Granite Falls, NC
    161 Shoal RD. Lincolnton NC.
    2680 Wildlife Rd. Vale, NC
    21 21st Ave NW, Hickory, NC 28601
    4910 Burns Rd. Granite Falls NC.
    2490 Helton Rd. Granite Falls NC.
    4010 Phillip Lane Hudson NC
    Hilltop Rd. Lincolnton NC.
    114 Camelot Drive, Granite Falls, NC.
    303 Dixon Dairy Rd. Kings Mountain NC.
    832 First ST. Kings Mountain NC.
    233 32ND ST PL SW Hickory NC
    3330 Ester Lane Hudson NC.


    Newspaper with a ton of information of her prior life

    WBTV has uncovered new details about Elisa Baker.

    She has been married at least three times, and she had children with two boyfriends. She describes herself as "gothic" and claims to have graduated from college.

    Baker is originally from Burke County. Her parents are Marshall Thomas Fairchild and Sylvia Jean Fairchild. The mother's maiden name is Barnes.

    Baker has at least three biological children that we were able to find information about.

    According to MySpace and Facebook, one of Baker's daughters is Brittany Starbuck.

    Baker's second daughter is Amber Fairchild, but Baker was never married to the child's father.

    She also has a son named Douglas Proctor and his father is Douglas Joseph Proctor. Baker's son claims he only saw his stepsister, Zahra, once or twice. (Click here to read more about her son Douglas Proctor.)

    Baker's first marriage was in 1985 to Jerry Alan Winkler in Caldwell County. In 1997, she was married to Jeffrey Russell Allred in Caldwell County.

    Her third marriage was to Adam Baker, whom she met online. They were married about two years ago.
    http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13329351
    Last edited by myzzy; 11-05-2010 at 03:10 PM. Reason: updated to add more

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    Quote Originally Posted by myzzy View Post
    just doing some searchs

    Names

    Putnam, Elisa Annette

    Possible Aka's:
    FAIRCHILD, ELISA
    HARIS, ELISA FAIRCH
    HARRIS, ELISA A
    PROCTOR, LISA
    PROCTOR, ELISA A
    YOUNG, ELISA ANNETTE

    Locations
    Cherryville, NC
    Granite Falls, NC
    Hickory, NC
    Kings Mountain, NC
    Lincolnton, NC

    http://www.veromi.com/Elisa-Harris.aspx


    On another site i found these you have to download the pdf of it
    http://www.wikiupload.com/G5LMklkF
    http://www.wikiupload.com/EHEzcJ6V

    Also addresses from her rapsheet

    3330 Cedar Valley Rd. Granite Falls, NC
    161 Shoal RD. Lincolnton NC.
    2680 Wildlife Rd. Vale, NC
    21 21st Ave NW, Hickory, NC 28601
    4910 Burns Rd. Granite Falls NC.
    2490 Helton Rd. Granite Falls NC.
    4010 Phillip Lane Hudson NC
    Hilltop Rd. Lincolnton NC.
    114 Camelot Drive, Granite Falls, NC.
    303 Dixon Dairy Rd. Kings Mountain NC.
    832 First ST. Kings Mountain NC.
    233 32ND ST PL SW Hickory NC
    3330 Ester Lane Hudson NC.
    also add Elisa (Lisa) Baker
    and lived in AU for a few months
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........


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    14 different moves in how many years?????
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Waaaay back in one of the threads, I think in the 20's, a WSer stated that her (the WSer's) husband had attended the same high school as EB for a couple of years of overlap. I think he was older than EB. I wondered if he had yearbook photos that our WSer could scan and share, but if the WSer ever responded I must have missed it. The threads were flying at that time. (LOL, remember that folks?)

    Do the public libraries in the area have copies of high school yearbooks?
    You can hold back from the suffering of the world. You have free permission to do so and it is in accordance with your nature.
    But perhaps this very holding back is the one suffering you could have avoided.
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    Be not simply good. Be good for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    also add Elisa (Lisa) Baker
    and lived in AU for a few months
    I was going by "life before Adam" so did not add those but will
    thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain_Kat View Post
    Not sure if I can ask this here or not, but where did she take the name Harris from? Was it a boyfriend?
    Boyfriend or husband, yes.

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    2010.11.18 EB & Bigamy

    http://charlotte.news14.com/content/...mmitted-bigamy

    "LENOIR, N.C. There's news information in the Zahra Baker murder case. Court documents obtained by News 14 Carolina indicate Elisa Baker was married to two men at the same time.

    The civil court papers filed in Caldwell County show Elisa Baker and her exhusband Aaron Young officially divorced Aug. 21, 2009. Young told News 14 Carolina that Elisa Baker said she filed for divorce in Australia but he filed in Caldwell County because he didn't believe her."
    Last edited by daisy7; 11-19-2010 at 03:25 PM.
    You can hold back from the suffering of the world. You have free permission to do so and it is in accordance with your nature.
    But perhaps this very holding back is the one suffering you could have avoided.
    Franz Kafka

    Be not simply good. Be good for something.
    HDT

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