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    JonBenet's Therapist

    I was reading through Steve Thomas book when I came upon this:

    Burke Ramsey had returned to classes, without police escort, a few weeks after a "small foreign faction" killed his sister. When Detective Gossage called a therapist who we were told had seen JonBenet, he was told to "talk to the Parents Attorneys".

    I have not seen this statement about a therapist other than in Steve Thomas book. Anyone know anything about the who what or where of this "Therapist"?
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toltec View Post
    I was reading through Steve Thomas book when I came upon this:

    Burke Ramsey had returned to classes, without police escort, a few weeks after a "small foreign faction" killed his sister. When Detective Gossage called a therapist who we were told had seen JonBenet, he was told to "talk to the Parents Attorneys".

    I have not seen this statement about a therapist other than in Steve Thomas book. Anyone know anything about the who what or where of this "Therapist"?
    I hadn't seen it either. I do know her medical records were kept from police.
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    Incredible. Parents of a murdered child "MIGHT be available by fax".
    Yep- they REALLY wanted the "real killer" found.

    (Did OJ have a fax, too?- he also wanted the "real killer" found.)
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    By therapist, is that referring to someone with the couch where you tell them your problems or more of a guidance counselor at a school? I can see a 6-year-old whose parents are getting a divorce of if a close family member or friend died, going to therapy but that doesn't fit JBR. Also, Patsy or John would have had to sign her up for that since obviously JBR isn't going to call in herself. Why would they send her to therapy? Remember, it was all about the perfect family--sending the 6-year-old to therapy doesn't exactly equal perfection.

    In elementary school, we had a woman come to our classroom and tell us that if we needed someone to talk to, she was available. If JonBenet decided that she wanted to talk to the therapist, what was it about? For a 6-year-old to decide on her own to do that, is pretty big IMO. She must have realized that there was a problem that she couldn't talk to Mom, Dad, or her siblings and friends about. I don't think she would have confessed to the therapist about abuse because aren't school officials required to report that? Maybe it was about hating pageants?

    It's weird though that it's been covered up--not just what she said, but how the therapy sessions came out, when did they start, when did they end, how often, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eileenhawkeye View Post
    By therapist, is that referring to someone with the couch where you tell them your problems or more of a guidance counselor at a school? I can see a 6-year-old whose parents are getting a divorce of if a close family member or friend died, going to therapy but that doesn't fit JBR. Also, Patsy or John would have had to sign her up for that since obviously JBR isn't going to call in herself. Why would they send her to therapy? Remember, it was all about the perfect family--sending the 6-year-old to therapy doesn't exactly equal perfection.

    I know that in middle and high school, we were told that if we wanted someone to talk to, we could go to see the school's therapist/guidance counselor. I'm not sure if they have those in elementary school but I wouldn't be surprised. If JonBenet decided that she wanted to talk to the therapist, what was it about? For a 6-year-old to decide on her own to do that, is pretty big IMO. She must have realized that there was a problem that she couldn't talk to Mom, Dad, or her siblings and friends about. I don't think she would have confessed to the therapist about abuse because aren't school officials required to report that? Maybe it was about hating pageants?

    It's weird though that it's been covered up--not just what she said, but how the therapy sessions came out, when did they start, when did they end, how often, etc.
    We really don't have much information about this at all. And yes, it is strange that it has been, not so much covered up, but ignored. I would say that Patsy was probably not thrilled with it being known that JB was "in therapy". People already raised eyebrows about JB's pageant "career". And you can bet that some people would blame that for JB needing to be in therapy in the first place.
    Yes, a therapist would be required to report any abuse that the patient mentioned, if patient was a child. But let's face it, not every therapist (or pediatrician or teacher) will do so. Some don't want to get involved, some have other reasons for not reporting it (like a friendship or business relationship with the parent(s). )
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    Maybe the kids had therapy when Patsy was away so much with the cancer and thinking she was terminally ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    Maybe the kids had therapy when Patsy was away so much with the cancer and thinking she was terminally ill.
    Good point. I can certainly see where any parent would want to do that. JB was only 3 when Patsy went through her treatments, and even at that age, kids are very aware when a parent is ill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    Maybe the kids had therapy when Patsy was away so much with the cancer and thinking she was terminally ill.
    Hiya txsvicki.

    Yes, maybe to help her in coping with PR's cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpole12 View Post
    Hiya txsvicki.

    Yes, maybe to help her in coping with PR's cancer?
    Makes perfect sense to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    Makes perfect sense to me!
    And I'd have had BR in it too. If JB was in therapy, BR was probably in it as well.
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    I was googlin' to see if a child of that age would see a therapist for bedwetting issues?
    http://www.sleepwetting.com/bedwetting-treatments.html
    and it realy is such a big concern for parents, from hypnosis to accupuncture. Must be quite an ordeal for some.

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    The bed wetting was my first thought also. Either way, counseling concerning Patsy's illness or the bed wetting could have told a lot about what went on the Ramsey household. Why else would team Ramsey prevent the release of the information?

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    One thing is for sure, guys. If JonBenet requested to talk to the counselor at school, that counselor would have gone straight to DFCS. They are afraid not to. I don't think the Ramsey's wealth or political pull could have prevented this. If she was in therapy, I believe it was because Patsy put her there. Maybe on the advice of her pediatrician? Hmmmmm........
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    One more thing, I know of a little boy (he's 4) who is in therapy because his mother believes a certain main is "grooming" him. He's been in therapy for about 8 weeks and he talks about whatever he wants to. It took 7 weeks for him to trust the therapist enough to tell her the story that he told his mom. This was with twice weekly therapy. Now, this man will be getting a visit from a detective. His mom was upset that they didn't do this to begin with, but from what she learned, the child has to admit the "charges" to someone in authority before LE can be brought in. It just occured to me that this could have been happening with JonBenet and she may have been close to telling exactly what had been bothering her. Maybe someone could not let that happen? I'm in Georgia and I know things are different everywhere, but this news of a therapist may put a whole new spin on lots of things.
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